crashing_this_thread

There are pedophile that don't do shit though. We can't round up people for simply being pedophiles. It's rape and abuse that is the problem and its the people who commit those crimes we need to round up.

Solver

This article shows a scheduled meet between Alefantis and Hillary which would refute the New York Times article and show it to be the real "fake" news: http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/politico-influence/2016/03/etsy-registers-podesta-for-sberbank-lend-lease-cov-for-bacardi-livingston-for-curacao-and-st-maarten-pizza-for-hillary-213495

Didot

The article from the NYT about pedophilia not being a crime was from 2014 not Tuesday, unless there was a different one you found. It was submitted to Reddit this week so some assumed it was published recently. Also it's true that pedophilia isn't crime in and of itself but I can see how thinking the original article was posted the day before would raise some suspicion.

Volt

Men should be separated from women. I don't care about a mans supposed rights or feelings. I care about the potential damage caused to countless women and families. A man cannot be allowed to roam free in the same society where women are.

BlackTara108

Who owns The NY Times? Rothchild Zionism- AKA The Talmudist's & their 'Christian Zionist dupes' are the overlords of all that's evil. How many 'dual citizens' are in high US gov positions? They are systematically ruining the US and all we hold dear. The same murderers of Palestinian children are now training US police forces. Bush instated foreign military contractor's to train US cops. Since then police shooting citizens has risen by 500%. They're helping to shred our US Constitution & ruin our children's minds with cultural marxism. When we watch the old anti communist videos, we see why we were warned. We also see the freedoms, we've lost to Rothchild Zionism. Thank God for Brother Nathanael, TrueTorahJews, IfAmericansKnew , Cynthia McKinney, Roger Waters (PinkFloyd) and many others who're speaking truths despite the constant and open death threats .Keep speaking out. We owe it to our children, ourselves, the world & the future of humanity.

nnfx

I posted 1 top level comment to point out this one thing. Afterwards People kept replying TO ME while claiming my comment is wrong and not only is it illegal to be pedophile it also should be punished with death just as I deserve death because I defend the pedos and things the like.

So no my friend it wouldn't get tedious here if people here (including you) would stop replying to my comments which did state nothing but the truth. I didn't reply first to anyone here.

And I don't give a fuck if you think I'm being apologetic I call this being objective. Human minds destroyed by other people and thus not able to function right are victims and nothing else. I will keep repeating that as long as you guys want to hear it and keep calling for more.

solar_flare

Pedophilia is an attraction you can't control

That's garbage, and it's really concerning that this is upvoated on here. There's all kinds of things to take your mind off of things, and to break mental addictions. Many people have completely broken addictions, or do you think people that haven't smoked in 30 years still think about them cigarettes all the time.

Sephel

It's only upvoted because most of us cannot (yet) downvote. If you think for one second that this site isn't being flooded by shills, then you haven't been paying attention. I agree with you 100% though, I'm just out of upvotes today.

nnfx

Exactly.

remixedcat

are you out of your god damn mind? or have the CTR shills moved here since reddit is sinking?

nnfx

Laws are not morals.

Op is talking about laws not morals, idiot.

Here you go doing it again, painting them as the victims

Yes because it is true. I knew one boy when I was 6 years old. He was 8 and I didn' know it at this time, but he was kidnapped and held captive by a rapist.

I only learned this years later when my mother told me, but it explained a lot. He was very sardistic, sexualized (tried to do sexual stuff to other children, occasionally stripped naked and the like), liked it to bondage or cage/ trap other children and just acted very wiered/ said very strange things which only made sense for me years later...

He was clearly reproducing stuff that was done to him. This is how people work. So this sardistic child that abuses other children, victim or offender? Kill? Kill now or later? Or try to help him process what was done to him in order to maybe give him the chance to have a somewhat normal live? Tell me what is the cool thing to do here?

When they get categorized as pedophiles.

So yes thats what I suggested kill them when they turn 18, nice. So this boy who was raped by a monster should get 10 more years to suffer and then be shot by a fucking redneck like you because he has a broken sexuality caused by being raped instead of having like the chance to make a therapy....cool

I only knew this boy when he was 8 years old, but it was very obv. that he will either have to go a long road of therapy and stuff or that he will get to be an offender him self. But since he was only 8 years old and also traumatized he didn't really had much influence about which way he will go. It's more about what the parents do in such a case. A child surely will never say "I think I need a therapy" Most parents of course would look for help/ therapy though. In his case though his father was a freaking motherfucking idiot. He didn't try to help in any way, he punished him. He regulary would beat him up for misbehaving... BEATING UP A TRAUMATIZED CHILD FOR MISSBEHAVING AFTER BEEING RAPED BY A MONSTER FOR WEEKS! Anyway I think one can clearly say that in this case the discision if he becomes a good person or a bad one was made by few other peoples and not much by him self. He probably is in jail now or dead, but what ever he has done I wouldn't judge him BECAUSE I KNOW HE IS A VICTIM. Better kill his father and of course the one who raped him.

I fail to see the problem. Once someone is found out to be a pedophile put a bullet in him, throw him in a concentration camp, castrate him, I don't give a shit, just get rid of him.

The problem is that nobody ever should be killed only for the thoughts in his mind, even tho I wish you suffering for the thoughts you presented here...

At the end of the day you're still putting the rights of the pedophile in front of those of the children he could one day rape, without any assurances he won't but his word.

Gaawd how can one be so dense!? What else besides your word do I got that you wont rape any woman? It's pretty obv., that you are a hetero male, so I know, that you feel very atracted to women. By your logic One should kill you now, because you are a potential rapist and we have nothing but your word...

Your Jewish masters would be proud.

German here, no "Jewish masters" in vision mate.

remixedcat

NYT people need arrested

mathemagician33

All of you need to relax for a second and stop debating the morality (or lack thereof) when it comes to pedophiles who haven't abused anyone or even acted on their desires. Let's stick to our primary purpose here, which is not philosophical debate. Pizzagate does NOT concern individuals who haven't acted on their pedophilic desires - there are clear implications of child trafficking, exploitation, and even possible satanic ritual abuse.

Please guys, let's be reasonable here and not let a philosophical disagreement derail our primary purpose - we need to keep investigating this and continue to uncover the connections between all these individuals, the Clinton Foundation, etc. I'm sure the shills would like nothing more than to divide us and incite conflict within our group, but please, don't give them what they want.

Thank you, I'm out. Happy thanksgiving to all of you Americans.

the_magic_man

And that NYT article was over 2 years old

Bill_Murrays_Sandals

Bastards. Fuck NY Times.

PrideOfOshtekk

Sorry but the left have been targeting pedophile elite for a lot longer than righties, especially since it was Thatcher's cabinet who had nasty child sex parties without the public's knowledge. We shouldn't be talking about left and right. Its pointless. Members of both sides of the political spectrum are committing these acts.

PrideOfOshtekk

This was obvious the moment they targeted a conspiracy thread right after it started to gain traction with tons of online communities.

When do they ever bother with other similar cases?

BoosCoos

Stop being a pedantic shill. You've given yourself away with your later comments. Nobody gives a fuck that 'uncle Randy touched you and now you thinks about touchin but you din do nuffin' sad boy story.

Don't molest kids. Don't help people molest kids. DONT WATCH PEOPLE MOLEST KIDS. It's wrong. It spreads the cancer and is a form of participation in those kids' torture. Find a therapist, not an online support group. Either way this isn't it and you're cluttering up an investigation with this bullshit.

nnfx

Don't molest kids. Don't help people molest kids. DONT WATCH PEOPLE MOLEST KIDS. It's wrong. It spreads the cancer and is a form of participation in those kids' torture.

Yeah because I totally argued against this. I was totally like molest kids! Help people to molest kids! Watch people molest kids! It's right. It spreads love.

Oh man I miss the internet how it was when there were no "smarterthanuserphones" and all those rednecks were too stupid to use a computer...

BoosCoos

Actually you semi-sarcastically argued that the possession of CP shouldn't be illegal. You are a shill. Gtfo or stop filling valuable posts with irrelevant nonsense.

nnfx

Haha you guys are so fucking nuts. Go on, I like.

BoosCoos

I just see two sides of the same coin w these macho "its duh leftist conspiracy!" tards vs the feelscuckman and his friends... They are all shills, whether they know it or not.

nnfx

Yeah sure I need a bullet to my head because I understand the current law wich states that beeing a pedophile is no crime perse. And because I think that someone who did not harm anyone in any way doesn't deserve punishment. This is totally crazy I know. I'm just saying all this because I want to fuck children my self probably.

Dude seriously if you tell me, that some of these sick fucks are trying to legalize this shit I don't even answer back. And when it comes to fight this I stand on your fucking side you moron.

But this "kill all pedos" mentality is just retarded. Yes, there are pedos, who really just suffer but harm nobody. You ever thought about what happens to a persons mind who got raped as a child? It's very well known, that most pedos were abused when they were children as well.

So when seeing this, at which point you think we should start to kill children who were victims of sexual abuse? Because we know, they will probably have pedophile thoughts them selfes at some point and we can not allow one to have pedophile thoughts, right? So kill them when they turn 18? How much does a VICTIM deserve punishment? How much punishment does a broken soul deserve for beeing broken? Even if the person did not harm anyone!?

Seriously for me it's looks pretty damn simple. Everything that harms another person should be illegal everything else should be legal.

nnfx

Haha yeah what ever.

ZooBot

Ok, try to work a little harder on the english comprehension. Fanook.

nnfx

Thanks I'm fine and I think people understand me as well. 17 people upvoted my first comment before you even understood it. How many people liked your comments here?

ZooBot

I don’t really give a fuck how many people like my comment.

nnfx

I know. I can see this.

sleepingbeautycan

Also purchasing and storing child porn (depending on where you live).

nnfx

Also texting while driving, depending on where you live.

turtlesarepureevil

If you only need mens rea to be convicted of a crime without an actus reus, enjoy your totalitarian hellhole. For the rest of us, we'll enjoy our freedom and non opression.

nnfx

Yeah but this is pretty stupid. Not every pedophile is also a rapist/ child molester and not every child molester is a pedophile. So by locking all pedophiles away you would not protect all children, but punish many innocent people who never did anything to anyone. And you call this a solution?

You care about the potential? So by this logic every hetero man and actually also every women is a potential rapist because they feel sexually attracted to other men or women.

This is bullshit. I'm all for protecting everyone, not just children from being raped, but not if that means that we must lock away every human being who didn't do nothing. -.-

Ispankdamonkey

Well then you be the first to let your kids hangout with a pedo.. As for me? I have a 45 that will take care of any pedo I come across.. Sick fucks.

mishka

Have you had any desire or drive whatsoever or are you an empty robot?

nnfx

I have desires, I'm no robot. Why you asking?

Vornash

You got downvoted, let me fix that.

Propaganda

I would say I find it interesting that there is no mention of all the connections to wikileaks, but it's not interesting at all. It's so obvious what is happening here to anyone who is paying attention.

What worries me are all the people not paying attention to this.

KissinGinger

Yeah, definitely from 2014. http://archive.is/zwC4i

It mainly argues for the rights of pedophiles who haven't acted on abusing children. It also tries to argue that sexually abusing children doesn't make someone a pedophile. "...pedophilia is a status and not an act. In fact, research shows, about half of all child molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims".

ZooBot

I think showing that NYT is trying to normalize it, even in 2014, could lead to questions as to why they are not covering PG now.

AKnightAlone

Nah. That's silly to think. I'm totally open to thoughts of all kinds of conspiring and manipulation tactics used by media, but a single article giving a voice to a pedophile, assuming I remember the article people are talking about, is no proof of them having a pro-pedophile agenda. I would say that's probably one of the few pieces of evidence they have that they aren't constantly fucking biased about reporting.

GoodGodKirk

i dont know about that ping pong pizzeria, but i do want the McBride kidnapping to stick.

I just don't see it. I think it's a distraction.

ZooBot

So is being in possession of child pornography. Stop trying to normalize it. Very disconcerting.

nnfx

It's disconcerting to you when people like to stick with facts? And does being pedophile imply being in possesion of cp?

I am hetero, does that mean that I for sure own pornography and rape women? NO

Same applies to pedophiles.

I didn't even read the article, but if it is like op claims and they just wrote exactly this, that it is not illegal being pedophile it self then they are just right. This is not normalizing anything...

And pizzagate does definetly not profit from people who obv. have problems to understand certain terms. Calling all those people involved in pizzagate pedophiles is already wrong in my eyes. I highly doubt, that all of them ONLY feel atracted to preteen children. Most of them are just monsters, rapists or what ever who don't even stop at children. It's more about the feeling to have power over others, to feel like being abled to do what others can't do, also satanism probably is a reason.

Seriously, calling those sick fucks pedophiles is an insult for every actual pedophile. Those fucks are way worse than people who just can't help about their attraction to children.

ZooBot

You commented that raping children is a crime (thanks for the great info), so I simply said so is being in possession of child pornography. You’re acting like there are all these pedophiles out there. There isn’t. It’s not normal. FACT. Talking about it like it is is wrong. Stop. I’m sticking to the facts. You’re the one that seems to have an agenda.

nnfx

Being pedophile is not against the law. Not in my country and probably not in yours. FACT

Why did you reply to this with "so is possesion of cp" thanks for the great info? No, you tried to imply that pedos always own cp and therefor are criminals.

"You’re acting like there are all these pedophiles out there. There isn’t. It’s not normal." What the fuck are you actually trying to say? Neither I nor anyone else said it's normal to be pedophile.

Seriously, english isn't my native language so I'm always a little concerned I get something wrong, but in this case I feel like I'm talking with someone who doesn't understand any language at all.

ZooBot

You put raping children is a crime. I responded with so is possession of child pornography. I was simply stating something else a pedophile might do that is against the law. Raping anyone is against the law. Some porn is legal. There is your difference. That wasn’t the main point though. Yes, I can tell english is not your native language. You write it well enough, but your comprehension is that of a retarded person. Maybe you are retarded though so who knows. Anyways, any other points you want to make besides repeating that being a pedophile is not a crime?

BoosCoos

Here is an article that shows connection between NYT/HAITI/TRAFFICING/HRC

Paraphrasing: Carlos Slim has been majority shareholder of NYT since 2015. He has donated to the Foundation and is an obscenely wealthy mexican media mogul with alleged cartel ties. Laura Silsby was caught trying to transport over 30 children out of Haiti illegally, and according to wikileaks has a long-standing relationship with HRC.

Connecting the dots, Slim owns NYT, has a less than stellar reputation, has some influence within the Clinton Foundation, which has been connected to human trafficking in Haiti. It is still all circumstantial but this is enough to understand why the NYT is posting such biased articles on this topic.

On mobile, site being wonky, but here is link to the article. http://yournewswire.com/clinton-foundation-investigator-dead/

ki-yoshi

There seems to be a large group of pedophiles that enjoy hurting children, that seek out pornographic material of exessive violence and of course as is true with all child pornography; they finance the entire undertaking. Also considering the amount of child pornography videos in production, which appears to be in the tens of thousands,

I'm not sure the humanitarian debate is the one to be had.

fr33europe

This piece is the worst shitty journalism I've ever seen

mig2k

Because they are part of that ring

JewFactz

Jews covering up for Jews.

VioletWinters

I love how they just shout the words FAKE NEWS over and over again to try and make the claims less credible. It makes it incredibly obvious that they're trying to spin it.

the_magic_man

Pizzagate is a textbook example of fake news. Idiots online adding up 2+2 and getting 100.

Diamond_Deluge

When will you people actually comprehend how big this thing is? Its literally the world elite satanic ritual. They think they're getting power from raping children. Check out Alistar Crowley, he talked about this madness and openly supported it.

the_magic_man

Maybe people will believe you when you have proof?

the_magic_man

How is that proof the DNC are involved in a child sex ring? "Proof" like that is the exact reason its a conspiracy theory. Its worrying that so many people are willing to believe this bullshit

Diamond_Deluge

kneo24

What the failing NYT is trying to do is to normalize pedophilia.

solar_flare

The far left and the left in general is doing this with incest as well.

kneo24

I honestly don't care what two consenting adults do. I also honestly don't care if an 18 year old and a 16 year old bang each other into exhaustion.

What I do care about though is normalizing behavior in which there are clear victims. Incest is kind of a grey area if both parties involved are adults. Pedophilia always has a victim. Always.

solar_flare

Incest is kind of a grey area if both parties involved are adults.

It's another disgusting perversion and leads to many children to be born with life long disabilities. Normalizing incest victimizes society and those born from such relationships. I can only see it as normal in a survival kind of way.

Pedophilia always has a victim. Always.

Technically not true. Someone may have thoughts and desires that are never known to others, but regardless it needs to be shunned because it often does involve a victim that will often suffer their whole lives.

kneo24

It's another disgusting perversion and leads to many children to be born with life long disabilities. Normalizing incest victimizes society and those born from such relationships. I can only see it as normal in a survival kind of way.

That's a bit of stretch there don't you think? While children born to incest relations do have a higher chance of birth defects, it doesn't mean that all will have birth defects. With that said, I do agree it is a dangerous road to take for any couple participating in the activity and I would strongly recommend protection so a pregnancy doesn't occur. The only victims in any relationship really are the people who choose to be irresponsible about it. Again, I'm talking about consenting adults.

Technically not true. Someone may have thoughts and desires that are never known to others

Yet you say the exact opposite about incest. Not every person who is into incest would act on their desires or make it known to others too.

In any case, I was mainly referring to those who act on their desires in regards to pedophilia. There is always a victim. Whereas with incest, those who act on their desires isn't always clear cut if there is a victim.

solar_flare

That's a bit of stretch there don't you think?

Not a stretch at all, incest should not be normalized, and pedophilia should not be normalized. They're both disgusting perversions that only do society bad.

Yet you say the exact opposite about incest.

I didn't say anything to that effect. Re-read my comments.

I'd be interested in what you think about animated pedophilic porn, I mean there's no direct victim, right?

Lockeye

Pedophilia is not a crime, but child sex-trafficking/rape/molestation definitely is. I feel like the NYT posting of both articles is not coincidence however, and part of a broad cover-up on these topics are disinformation from higher-up in the authority chain beyond what editors find interesting to write about.

FreeAmerican

NY Times received a lot of money from a out of country source tied to child trafficking

justiceforever

Ate you saying that as a hypothesis or do you know for sure? Might be an interesting lead to investigate.

FreeAmerican

Look into Hillary's business partner Mexican Carlos Slim... Msg me if you need more