algernon4peace

Wtf you talking about? I think you misunderstood my post, because we are on the same side here great_regret.

If it was up to me, paedophiles who act upon their urges would be locked up for life, without the possibility of parole. I'm cool with the death penalty in many cases as well.

It's also not wrong to say that paedophiles who seek help or control themselves so they don't hurts kids deserve respect. Better they seek help, then the alternative. I think you misunderstood my post.

Save your venom for the paedophiles and their apologists --- which is not me.

algernon4peace

Whoops, I get it! I can see where you're coming from great_regret.

I saw your response and immediately got angry that anyone would think I would be okay with hurting kids.

This is why I'm here --- I want to help expose this any way I can. But yeah, I did just come from Reddit :) and am Canadian, so perhaps I need to work on making my point with less sugar coating.

occultelite

That includes the pornography and lascivious culture/practices that many of those scandalized by this #PizzaGate story are themselves in thrall to...

Strong redpill right there. Everything is linked. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work - 2 Thessalonians 2:7 Also, Child sacrifice was an everyday thing in the pagan world.

occultelite

Finally someone who see where the problem really is. Also, if not all homosexuals are pedophiles, its obvious that homosexuality is prevalent in pedophile rings.

Neither Pedophilia or Homosexuality should be normalized. They are not "diseases". All pedophile must suffer death penalty, wether they "act on it" or not.

Gorillion

For a start they need to suck that shit up and stop trying to form support and "pride" groups.

I mean, you don't see me dragging pedophiles into the street and skinning them alive, and that's something I totally get off on bro. Like, I have this terrible struggle inside myself where I just really really want to peel the skin off lying, conniving, sleazy, snakey, slimey, cunty, shitfuck pedos who are trying to portray themselves as "victims" or "tragic heroes". Some days it's almost uncontrollable!

So what about my struggle? Should I start a "Pedo-Skinner" pride movement? I totally promise we'll never actually skin any pedos, but I and other "PS"ers will talk about it constantly in chat rooms, share images of actual pedo-skinning, tell each other about our terrible fantasies of skinning pedos. Totally not psyching each other up into a skinning frenzy and reinforcing our paraphilic fetish as a normal aspect of the human condition among ourselves or attempting to normalize our horrific desires within mainstream society.

Come on, think of we poor Pedo-Skinners. We're people too!

33Tqqothrow1bzrk

Perhaps some of what you said is true but I don't think the higher ups would want to normalize due to leverage. I think it's more about creating chaos and division amongst us with the immigrations.

subchannel

As we can see, are the sick pedophile fucks in high ranking power positions. They are playing every possible card against us to keep their dirty business untouched.

To take these sick fucks out, it may be necessary to form some kind of brotherhood or anti-pedophile-society.

For who ever might be interested .......... read this

The World War 2 special operations executive handbook - covers a lot of the things you need to bring these high ranking pedophiles to justice. Just use the knowledge

https://ironwolf008.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/the-wwii-soe-training-manual-rigden.pdf

Good luck comrades

Louisa

but be careful not to broad brush paint an entire culture from other places. Just like us here - we clearly have a pedophilia culture while many of us go around unaware of it. The broad brush strokes suggesting muslim bans pisses a lot of people off because there are still good people from countries that commit atrocities. See the USA for instance.

swatmaster68

I agree that a broad brush should not be used. With that said, the majority of Muslim refugees are coming from more underdeveloped parts of the World. In these parts, religion tends to be strictly adhered to. Also, these refugees are bring their strict religious beliefs with them, see what is happening in Europe. I'm not saying that all of the Muslim refugees to this, but again, it some obviously do, and being that it is their "culture" it could be used as a toll to normalize this behavior.

algernon4peace

i apologize if i am being intolerant, but paedophilia is something that must never be normalized. I can't accept a world where rich, sick pieces of sh-t can f-k little kids with impunity. That these calcified old relics thought we'd tolerate this is absurd. Our culture may be depraved, but we're not that far gone.

I will say though, with sincerity that paedophiles who are able to control their compulsions or who seek help --- deserve a ton of respect. But adults who acts upon these urges should be very scared, because unlike their victims, they have a choice and they're choosing to harm the most innocent/vulnerable in society. There is nothing normal about f-king little kids.

RedGreenAlliance

As a social worker with a Masters degree and specialism in mental health issues, one of my first jobs was working in the Justice system in the UK, in a probation Hostels. Our primary client group was sex offenders of which paedophiles were the largest group. I was tasked with counselling and arranged by services, support groups and monolitoring to help such people "contribute to society". The thinking being that we needed to cure them by working with them and that long custodial sentences didn't work.

I went into this with all the theory. All the studies and "approved knowledge". But reality proved it is bull. These people have the HIGHEST rate of recidivism (chance of reoffending) of all criminal types. I was so disgusted at the huge amount of work and effort invested, and many all along we're going through the motions, or secretly meeting other paedophiles, or scouting out new targets. Or in many cases, actively abusing kids whilst under my legally mandated supervision.

I quite and ended up working with children in care. Then you get to see the other side and the extreme damage caused - not just to the abused, but their entire family, and many victims go on to seek out being abused (terribly hard to understand), or worse becoming abusers themselves.

Paedophilia is a corrosive sore on mankind. It's the manifestation of evil. No normalisation or excuses or moralising or pseudo-psychological theorising can EVER justify it. Long custodial sentences must be imposed and lifelong monitoring is essential given the extreme chance of reoffending. Yes I think it's a mental sickness but so is serial killing, and we would never consider mitigating THAT by turning the killer into a victim and enabling him through social acceptance or offering excuses for him to lean on.

No mercy for paedophilia. It is a cancer destroying society and is mushrooming because Western society has reached a moral crisis point.

Sorry for the rant I had to get it off my chest, not the best expressed as I am on my phone. Keep up the good work. No mercy for the Pedo Elites

Crux

Don't you dare apologize for that.

New_years_day

Don't ever apologize for saying anything of the sort.

Kids don't know what the fuck they are doing, consent or non-consent, it's wrong and you and most people know it's wrong.

meantartarsauce

fuck that. dont apologize for being intolerant. anyone who partakes or gains from the suffering and exploitation of innocent children deserves neither tolerance, nor mercy.

outside of that; i agree with everything you said. we all have a choice. and i choose to up vote you

WanderingMitten

This is my take on your accusation of "normalizing" it. Pedophilia needs the same kind of reform as illegal substances. People going through the mental disorder need to seek help but they can't because they are afraid of being called a sick pervert.

The current laws do make it hard for someone who has an attraction to kids to get help because imagine if anyone went up to you, they never looked at child porn, or touched a kid in a harmful way but they confided and said "I'm attracted to kids." you would be disgusted by it wouldn't you? On top of that, if one admits to their mental disorder they assume the worse, they would assume they look at child porn, assume they have porn on their computer and assume they have molested before. In the same way if someone has a heroin addiction, they would fear going to the police or any authority for help because they don't want to go to prison and have it on their record so rather than get help they let it eat away inside til they either die from an overdose or in the other instance molest a child.

Of course for everyone situation there are two sides to every coin. There are Pedophiles who can live perfectly normal lives never hurting children, subsiding their urges and desperately wanting to get the help they can't get because of the mark it would live on them for the rest of their lives. Then there are sick sociopaths who just love the idea of control. We can't treat people the way we're being treated in the sense of being lumped as a single group, when we are all individuals, some who want to fight the cause of pizzagate and others whom just want to cause chaos.

Yes, as disturbing as it is to think that out there, there are adults who wish to be intimate with children, you have to remember, not all pedophiles are child molestors, and honestly, not all child molestors are pedophiles, some people are just sick fucks that hurt just because they want to be in control. This is just a disclaimer that you can't demonize a whole group of people just because of what some do, you have to take a step back and remind yourself, addiction, depression, sexual attraction, they are all mental dysfunctions within the brain that cause you to desire certain things, that you can't help but want ti, to need it, to lust for it.

People who molest, and never attempted to try to get help, yes they should be punished but they should also be given the chance to rehabilitate because you can't always blame the person that grew up for turning into the person they turned into, you also have to look into their past. But you always have to remember, there are definitely people out there right now who know what they feel is wrong but they are afraid to get help, because they know the moment they admit it to someone, that person will never look at them the same way again.

swatmaster68

I completely agree with your argument that many of these people cannot help it. What I was proposing in my post wasn't that there is a movement to allow pedophiles to come forward publicly to seek help, but an attempt to rationalize pedophilia. If it becomes rationalized slowly, then the pedophiles won't need any rehabilitation, barbecue it will no longer be considered a mental health issue. Much like with transgendered people. They make up approx .02% of the US population, but they need special laws and rules catered to them, and any who oppose those changes are labeled bigots. Many psychologists agree that people who identify as transgender merely suffer from a mental disorder that needs to be treated medically, and not coddled. I'm proposing the idea that the MSM and liberal politicians are trying to change pedophilia from a mental disorder to being another protected class of individual, just like transgendered people. Because, once it is no longer considered a mental health disorder, they can lobby to change laws against pedophilia because those laws would be discriminatory.

Melitica

There is a difference between a child molester and a pedophile. We are on a search for serial pedophiles, particularly violent pedophiles and those who are involved in child trafficking.

True pedophilia is not a disease. It cannot be treated with medication or therapy. It is a brain abnormality which circumvents a biological process to allow for sexual attraction to a prepubescent partner. http://www.livescience.com/45811-pedophiles-brains-scanned.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/23/study-finds-pedophiles-brains-wired-to-find-children-attractive.html Serial pedophiles in prison have reported that their obsession cannot be stopped, no matter the consequences, they will offend again. The addition of violence is akin to a serial killer. http://www.abusewatch.net/pedophiles.pdf

xbryn

What you just said is exactly what those "normalization" articles say. That is exactly the kind of thing they said about gays back when the first started trying to normalize them.

swatmaster68

That is exactly my point, and a great comparison. Now, homosexuals are a protected class of citizen. Laws that were established to prevent homosexuality, such as anti sodomy laws, have been repealed on the basis that they are discriminatory. Even the Pope has begun changing the Catholic Church's view on homosexuals. That is what I fear they are trying to do with pedophilia by normalizing it, making them a protected class who can fight laws based on discrimination.

Secretasianman7

This is quite a brilliant post. Pedophilia should not be normalized, but rather treated as a mental illness similar to depression, where there exists no more social taboo to make these people afraid to seek help for their affliction for fear of being labeled a monster. We need to help these people, not ostracize them from the general populace because they suffer from an affliction which is beyond their control.

swatmaster68

I agree. But, I think what the MSM and liberal politicians are trying to do is expose the American public to it enough until they can label pedophiles as a protected class of people. If pedophiles become a protected class, laws and regulations can be changed or repealed based on the grounds that they are discriminatory. Which would be unacceptable.

xericlisten

Basically similar to how terrorists don't see themselves as evil. Except we are labeled the terrorists and we are demonized as a result.