I'm new here. Been poking around all the details and would appreciate being brought up to speed about some things I'm not getting. ( pizzagate )

submitted by Real_Orlando_Bloom

1- Alefantis - So I did see that Alefantis was said to be 49th most powerful person in DC. How is that? I understand that his ex-beau is someone of notable standing, and his pizza joint in DC is frequented by politicians, but 49th? Was he locally popular in D.C. as the guy that owned 'The Happening Pizzeria before all this pizzagate stuff started?

My first thought about how he found himself in his current position was,. A) People catch the admittedly-enticing scent of dark sex conspiracy. B) Those same people see code words like pizza , pasta in emails. C) They search for possible connections and find the Pizza/Pasta shop frequented by politicians of interest. D) And guess what? The owner of that shop has undeniably creepy-in-a-pedo-way social media postings and rubs shoulders with D.C. elite.

I just want to make sure that's not the extent of pizzagate's jumping-off point. I don't believe it is, but like I said, guide me.

If that is, however, the rough Genesis in the pizzagate "narrative", I feel like most peoples' conviction in something more large and sinister is anchored in Alefantis's creepier postings. Identical social media comments/pictures by anyone, anywhere else would turn a handful of heads. But with Alefentis's location and light connection to suspect people, his postings seem to be the optimal lubricant for stuffing potentiality into someone's head as history before they can even think, "Wait... Child trafficking pizza shop. Politicians talking about children in code like they're ordering at a drive thru. Occult... This sounds like a Liam Nessuns fiction."

2- Comet - Basically, why Comet? If there are organized crimes being committed by politicians, why would they decide on the operation that seems to be so centered around a fucking pizza shop? *What is happening at Comet and why could it not happen some place less.... in a pizza shop? *

3 - Abaramovic - Basically same as last. I see a lot of posts about Abramovic and general ritualistic weirdness bordering on occult. I also know about her inviting the Podesta boys to her ritual dinner. But is she connected in any direct way to the criminal activities? Considering the amount of times I found her name while going through Pizzagate stuff, I thought she would have to be connected in a few more ways but I can't seem to find anything.

If that is her only connection, I feel like her name being mixed in with every single Pizzagate story functions in a similar way as Alefantis's online presence. Basically to associate Podestas, Clintons, etc. with a certain imagery that one would associate with the crimes of trafficking children. It's shocking, distasteful imagery. It's really the only imagery circulated by pizzagate theories that I know of. The images are not pertinent to any actual events or useful as evidence and are produced by two individuals who are, based on what we know, complete strangers to those who pizzagate accuses of horrible crimes.

4- Last important one. If pizzagate is deadly true, what would be the extent of involvement and structure and why would notable politicians in the U.S. take part? For money? I'm not asking for speculation or blind convictions. Is there anything that might give us some insight you can show me?

5 - Finally. This one is out of pure shameless curiosity. Do you usually believe conspiracy theories and how convinced of pizzagate are you? Truly though. No bullshit gun to head.

betadynamique

To call the occult some general ritualistic weirdness is misrepresenting the effects it has on the world. This isn't the first generation of human beings to ever sacrifice on the altar of Moloch. To understand that, the name Moloch is a take off of the name Malik, meaning King, and it means the evil king, the tyrant, etc. When God is Malik then the Devil is Moloch, like an imitation to usurp the glory, which is the essence of satanism and idolatry. It's about the perversion of truth into the opposites.

Shogun77

I just want to make sure that's not the extent of pizzagate's jumping-off point.

No that's pretty accurate.

Food references that don't make sense. Podesta obsession with pizza. Tony collects pedophilic artwork and artwork involving cannibalism and of children being murdered. Tony close friends with pedo Denny Hastert. John and Tony close friends with Alefantis. Alefantis and friends make numerous sexual comments about kids and babies on Instagram. Amanda Kleinman has music video featuring images of kids and babies dressed up as pizza, chuck e cheese, "sugar babies" outfits etc intercut with images of sex and sexual torture. Both Podestas and Elafantis linked to Abramovic, who has pedophilic magazine spreads (pointing at baby girl's vagina, touching shirtless boy), along with cannibal theme in "artwork". Elafantis linked to Arun Rao at DOJ in charge of investigating child porn. Sasha lord at Comet specializes in working with "at risk" girls in prison. Police sketches unearthed of Podesta brothers linked to disappearance of Maddie McCann and pedophile Clem Freud in Portugal. John's emails wiped at date of disappearance. Hillary's former chief of staff (Luzzatto) found making bizarre references to children including "raw and uncut" time alone with them.

From that point dozens of new leads have been found, often involving bushiness or NGO's involved in anti-trafficking networks or helping "troubled youth" that have pedo symbols for their logos. Even if suspicious about Alefantis are unfounded (which I find very implausible) the effort is expanding into a global crowd sourced investigation into elite pedo rings and child trafficking.

Identical social media comments/pictures by anyone, anywhere else would turn a handful of heads.

Not sure what circles you run in but I've never made pedophilic "jokes" when friends and relatives send pics of their kids. Not once let alone multiple times.

Do you usually believe conspiracy theories

The term "conspiracy theory" is a propaganda device. It is typically used by either shills or people who are incredibly naive about the way the world works.

Edit: the "jumping off point" Is arguably much earlier. Dozens of elite pedo rings uncovered in other countries (and at least two in the US -- See Franklin coverup and Jeffrey Epstein), providing context for Pizza Gate and pattern of authorities covering up for elite pedos rather than bringing them to justice. Widely assumed that these rings are being used for blackmail purposes and keeping people in line.

krauthammer0

No, we're not going to guide you shill. Go search for yourself, it's literally explained everywhere.

Real_Orlando_Bloom

Gah! Caught me. Caught the shill, good man. Now the shill is revealed and shall be paraded through the square as an animal as the public shouts, SHILL, SHILL BE GONE. All because of you. Take my praise.

I'm just messing. But yeah, at the moment, I'm not even remotely interested in this "everywhere" you mentioned. I was there, I learned some, and now I'm "here" for things I didn't learn. You probably noticed I didn't come to this page and made a post titled, "Pizzagate?" I'm also not currently up to "searching". That's why I came here to this site. It's a place for people to discuss, question and ask. And for some it's a place to scream "shill" at people like a man with a cardboard sign on the street.

pizzathrowaway

1) the GQ article that listed Alefantis also said that the people who run the Washington Post weather blog, and a bunch of party planners, and Jose Andres (another restauranteur) were also in the top 50, so i dunno how seriously it makes sense to take it. It seems like they just wanted some people mixed in who were not all politicos. Also, it's a fucking mens fashion magazine.