Fatsack

If you lie and omit, you are no ally.

Fatsack

I would rather tell the truth, because that is what will eventually get 100% of the people. When people find out you deceived, misinformed, or omitted things, they don't trust anything else you say. Thats why the MSM is completely discredited, because of this election. The truth is the truth is the truth. Find your moral compass.

UglyTruth

Don't get me wrong, I believe that the Satanic aspect is very real. My argument was simply that you can make a case for paedophilia without referring to it when you're talking to people who are limited to the secular paradigm.

Here's a link to related info about HRC: http://forum.clonehost.net/post/296

UglyTruth

If your target audience won't accept those associations then don't mention Spirit Cooking. There's a world of woo out there, you don't have explain it in order to make the point that the codewords only make sense if you are talking about paedophilia.

Fatsack

You're conceding the battlefield and letting them dictate the terms of battle... very bad strategy. A better one is to flip it on them, use our numbers and social media to flip the script and make it stick. That's why "Pizzagate is Real" is so effective. it's all about repettition, and that imprints itself on the public/social mind. We just need to out-repeat, and out-meme them. You can't convince lemmings no matter how hard you try, they are lemmings because they want to be.

GoHeadBeGoneWithIt

I'm not saying it isn't real you dipshit. The thing is, the MSM conditioned people to reject conspiracy theories and ridicule people who panic about Satanists and believe in the "Illuminati." We have no proof that these people are Satanists. We know that they're doing occult rituals, but is it Satanism? Probably not. And Illuminati is a fucking meme, so let's not ruin the credibility of Pizzagate by using that word and talking about eyes and triangles. We know they exist. They're called globalists and pedophiles.

Fatsack

lol, satire is a shills worst enemy.

Fatsack

It's not supernatural, magic isn't real. But people believe in a bearded white guy from the middle east smiling down on them, even though that isn't real. Satan is not real, Satanism is. And no, we will not stop reporting the TRUTH just because it's uncomfortable. That is what the mainstream media does.

Urebeat

This guy is a shill, Why do you want us to drop the topic?

GoHeadBeGoneWithIt

I didn't say drop the topic you fucking cunt. The thing is, the MSM conditioned people to reject conspiracy theories and ridicule people who panic about Satanists and believe in the "Illuminati." We have no proof that these people are Satanists. We know that they're doing occult rituals, but is it Satanism? Probably not. And Illuminati is a fucking meme, so let's not ruin the credibility of Pizzagate by using that word and talking about eyes and triangles. We know they exist. They're called globalists and pedophiles.

shillsmademeregister

This one is good. All these people that reject your proposal are shills. All arguments in this sub , regardless of the reason for it beginning in the first place + any mention of nationalities or religions, are signs of shills. Make no mistake.


The evidence at hand is the only thing that needs to be circulated. Nothing more. Anything more. You are a shill. Mentions of UFOs and NAZI/HITLER talk are all things that would make the newcomers go away. Regardless of your actual intention please focus the evidence at hand. PERIOD.

Fatsack

2 shills in a pod. The TRUTH, is the TRUTH whether or not you like it. Satan isn't real, but Satanism is. Just like Christ never existed, but there are people who believe and act as if he did. Think to yourself, someone that learns about these myths, and CHOOSES to worship satan over god. Someone who CHOOSES evil. That PERSON is dangerous, whether or not what they believe is true or not, the actions the humans who believe and worship satan ARE VERY REAL. Reality has NO FUCKING OBLIGATION to make you feel warm and fuzzy or be palletable or comfortable for you. Now go back to you PR firm and collect your CTR money, you soulless piece of filth.

rivercontrol

Shill

Narcissism

Aliens/ Entities/ Religion/ Satanism are just clumsy ways to describe a psychological condition knows as Malignant Narcissism. If you study Narcissism you would see that it fits these people exactly. Narcissism, while it may have a genetic or cultural component (i.e being taught from an early age that they are superior), usually develops in childhood as a coping mechanism due to an adversarial environment. It’s very likely that these people suffered abuse themselves in childhood/ adolescence. To mediate tensions cause by their environment while growing up they developed a FALSE SELF. A bit like a child who thinks they can fly to the moon, is God like, or all powerful, these people live in a fantasy world divorced from reality where their fake concocted personality called the “False Self” reigns supreme. In essence a Narcissist always remains as a malformed child in an adults’ body.

The False Self is based on feedback from others, kind of like a hall of mirrors. They need constant feedback from others to maintain the false beliefs about themselves, and their mental stability. Attention (known as narcissistic supply) is an essential component of the Narcissists personality – without it they would collapse. Like a junky, they don’t care if they’re liked or hated so long as they get their fix – in this case “attention”.

Through time the False Self supplants the real self - the ego/ super ego in a health individual. The False Self replaces the executive function carried out by the EGO in a normal person which mediates between the inner landscape and the outside world. Because the False Self is a concoction, a fake construct, it is not grounded in reality it fails the reality test. Hence, it fails the Narcissist – it’s not working most of the time!

All Narcissists operate within what is known as a Narcissistic Pathological Space this is a geographical area in which they derive Narcissistic supply (attention, accolades, even to be hated). They need attention and like to be hated because to be hated means feared and fear means attention.

The child abuse occurs because Narcissists are “AUTOEROTIC” in other words they are primarily attracted to themselves. A child who is a blood relative is the closest thing genetically to themselves and hence seen by the Narcissist as an extension of themselves. Because narcissists view others as mere extensions of themselves, like an organ or another limb, when they have sex they are essentially masturbating inside another person.

Malignant Narcissism is a syndrome characterized by a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial features, paranoid traits, and egosyntonic aggression. Other symptoms may include an absence of conscience, a psychological need for power, and a sense of importance (grandiosity). Essentially they have the GOD complex – Omnipotent (unlimited power), Omnipresent (everywhere), Omniscient (all knowing/ all seeing eye).

Malignant Narcissists require constant attention to validate themselves and are pathological liars because subconsciously they are always lying to themselves. The “False Self” is adapted to whatever Pathological Narcissistic Space they currently inhabit. Question them about something bad they did in their past and they will react with disbelief/ indignation, because that’s the actions of a different “False Self” which operated at a different time/ in possibly a different pathological space. This is why they appear to have been taken over by entities, or been "body snatched", but in reality it’s just a psychodynamic of Malignant Narcissism.

A high level of Narcissism often overlaps into Psychosis. Psychosis is when a person experiences a hallucinogenic episode while awake, due to the spontaneous release of a naturally occurring chemical in the brain called DMT (Di-Methyl-Tryptamine). DMT is produced by the Pineal gland but is normally heavily buffered to prevent release. DMT is released at times of birth, at death and near death experience (NDE). But also high stress can break down the "security system" and allow the production of DMT. People who have experienced a spontaneous DMT trip, or who have smoked DMT, have reported seeing all manner of entities, aliens, spirits, gods, patterns and processes at a cellular level. They usually report the experience as being more real than real, which is a giveaway that it’s not. They usually believe that what they experienced was REAL. It’s likely that they are just experiencing a powerful Hallucination who’s primarily function is to ease the passage of death.

Hitler was remotely diagnosed as having Narcissistic Personality Disorder by Psychoanalyst - Erich Fromm. Malignant Narcissists are intrinsically irrational and dangerous (especially to children). By comparison Psychopathy is cold logical state, where the motivation is the best logical outcome from any given set of parameters (except when threatened or not in control). Psychopaths like Money and to an extent power but are not interested in attention. Psychopaths are not narcissistic unless being so makes it easier to achieve some goal. Psychopaths are not interested in people unless they have some purpose for the Psychopath. "Either you're or use OR you're in the way". Whereas Narcissists NEED people and their attention to mediate their precariously balanced "False Self" personality. The Malignant Narcissist have a desire to destroy and hurt people that goes way beyond any logical benefit/ gain to themselves. In fact as Dr Steve Pieczenik states Hillary and Co are very self-destructive people. Who in her position would allow even the hint of pedophilia near them, let alone the people she has close to her?

Malignant Narcissists are the last type of people who should ever be put in power…. The idiots who vote for them are Co-Dependants stuck in a cycle of abuse.

Check out the work of Sam Vaknin on YT for more info.

For more info on DMT check out - DMT the Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman

rivercontrol

That's alot of info. Can you sum it up in three sentences?

Mona2

Can you research Illuminati first. It is exactly related. Pizza is a brick in a pyramid. The pyramid IS Illuminati/Satan. Whether people/you want to hear it or not

GoHeadBeGoneWithIt

It's 2016 bro. We have moved past the need to be calling them the Illuminati and talking about triangles and symbols. We know they exist now. We call them globalists. Get with the program.

Mona2

Hey 14 year old internet champ- won't solve anythg being an ass ;)

sentryseven

Motive, means and opportunity.

Motive: 1. Adherence to the dark arts, black magick, Crowleyism and Satanism in the belief that it will give them power over others. In short, to practice their spiritual beliefs through deed and words.

Evidence of this one motive?

Association with occult practitioners like Abramovic. Occultic symbolism found through associates and other connections. Invoking Moloch. Appreciated artwork that suggests ritualized practice. Precedent of past cases throughout history where satanic rituals were the prime motivating influence for abuse, murder and cannabalism of victims.

rivercontrol

Yes

P2

But they are related! These powerful ring leaders are coming from somewhere and have some crazy cult too. At least we know for sure they are connected to spirit cooking

AnonDude

And shill, disinfo and psyop talk also please. In fact, i just made a list with 10 ways to lose your credibility .

rivercontrol

Shill.

GoHeadBeGoneWithIt

Illuminati is a dumb meme now... The elite want you to tie this to the Illuminati and shit so they can easily make people dismiss it as a wacko conspiracy theory. This has nothing to do with free speech.

Fatsack

The illuminati meme was co-opted and spread by the illuminati. Just like how the term 'conspiracy theorist' was co-opted after the assassinations of JFK, RFK, MLK, etc etc. It's linquistic control, and one of the primary pillars of Propaganda. Go read Edward Bernays book or learn something from the leading living Linquistics academic Noam Chomsky. So many ignorant lemming people, so easy too control. Really, I would join the Illuminati if I could stomach it, because the American population is so fucking stupid and easy to manipulate. It's also one of the primary reasons that 2nd languages are not taught in america, understanding the fundamentals of language, by learning more than one, helps you see through this manipulation and twisting of "pop" words, and what they mean in everyday usage.

rivercontrol

The strawman may be false, but don't confuse fantasy with reality.

Mona2

It IS Illuminati. Do your research. The guidelines are on the internet. Have u even looked and read them. HRC is sited at a high priest in their documents.

MolochHunter

Yes, but that fact that you are correct is not as important as its utility in the PR war. A high-profile pedophile network is all we need to say. The illuminati connection may help certain folk understand connections and motives, sure, but in terms of getting the CONSENSUS of citizens to demand investigation/justice, it is not the most helpful approach to use the term illuminati.

Mona2

I do agree. This ALL sounds like we are crazy.

UglyTruth

It's a step by step process, there's a lot more "batshit crazy" yet to come. Remember how the idea of them reading everyone's email used to be tinfoil hat territory?

MolochHunter

dont be a goose. He's not saying you arent permitted, he's saying its UNHELPFUL. And he's right. the occult aspect is irrelevant, so is the homosexuality. You can be an occultist, just dont fuck+murder kids. You can be gay, just dont fuck+murder kids. That's the best angle we can stick to if we don't want to feed our enemy with the ability to redirect the narrative away from pedophilia. So you can exercise your freedom of speech as much as you freaking want, I'm just here to tell you, there are some expressions that will compromise our ultimate goal of saving children and their parents from the most horrendous experience on this godforsaken planet.

Fatsack

They are very relevant. Satan isn't real, but Satanism is VERY real. Just like Christ never existed, but Christians are everywhere. What people believe is part of what motivates them, and it is vital to understanding this entire story. REALITY and TRUTH have aboslutely ZERO OBLIGATION to make you feel warm and fuzzy, or be believable to you. Now return to your PR firm and collect your CTR money you filthy shill. Come back when you have an actual strategy, Ed Bernays is ashamed of you.

rivercontrol

The thing is occultism is a very broad catagory. Satanism is not.

MolochHunter

True but immaterial. Its not illegal to worship Satan. If you commit a crime you commit a crime, and that matters not a jot whether you ascribe your motive to Satan or Mother Theresa. You can worship satan but if you never commit a crime and contribute to your community, great. You can worship mother theresa but secretly be a mass murderer. Repeat, the spiritual aspect of this case is immaterial, inflammatory, and prevents many 'asleep' people from waking up to the alleged CRIME which is rape/abduction/murder

rivercontrol

Singing about beheading Jews isn't a crime either, but when your Jewish friends start winding up dead, you'll know who to look at.

Wellwerefucked

Writing 'ppl' makes people automatically reject things with even greater ease imho...

GoHeadBeGoneWithIt

Only immature ppl that dwell on stupid things

Wellwerefucked

Ugh. It hurts to read.

UglyTruth

Like they say, the devil's greatest trick was making people think that he didn't exist.

GoHeadBeGoneWithIt

Yeah, and a lot of people believe he doesn't exist. Those people will dismiss Pizzagate if you start associating it with the Illuminati.

rivercontrol

Those people also don't believe a president would get away with being a sadistic, molester of children.

UglyTruth

More fool them. The codewords, the efits, and the sexualized pizza art can stand alone without depending on any occult or religious associations.

Fatsack

I disagree, understanding how elite circles are bound to each other and how loyalty and cohesion is controlled in a tight knit group of highly criminal people is very important. It is very similar to the study of gangs, and how they use initiation, blackmail, threats of violence, etc etc etc to coerce people into doing things that are against the self-interest of the individual, but for the interest of the group as a whole. The gang member that gets chosen to go carry out a hit on a rival is putting his life at risk. A rationally self-interested person would refuse, unless the consequences of going against the gang are greater than carrying out the risky task. Use the fucking brain god/evolution gave you.

UglyTruth

Sure, if you want to understand what is going on at a motivational level you've got to take the occult in account. My point was that you don't have to go there if you simply want to show that there's good evidence that a paedophile ring is operating in Washinton D.C.