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I mean maybe, but why is this a big deal?

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Retarded thread full of CTR trolls?

Amanda is a woman there's plenty of pics of her on http://theapes.com/pics go through the folders. This thread is ridiculous.

I think you are right on the money. The voice is electronic ally altered. It's a man, a really sick one, too.

I'd also like someone to explain how a voice modulator can make a female sound exactly like a flamboyant, woman-hating drag queen.

By pitching it down or slowing it down wich has the same result.

Just look this and tell me they don't sound exactly like Amanda. It's just slowed down... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJEoASUMZbI

...*females voice modulated with effects." Ftfy.

How I know this? You can hear the unprocessed voice in her videos at CPP overlapping the processed voice. Just listen and at some points you hear her normal voice over the processed voice and yes, it's totally a normal female voice. As far as we can talk about normal... Baby eating ugly bitch...

I saw differences in the teeth when viewing various Ape monologues. If someone else has the same opinion here, closeups would help.

Guys this is total bullshit. Amanda Kleinman IS majestic ape and IS a woman. You can hear it in every video of her at CPP. You can CLEARLY hear her FEMALE voice overlapping the processed voice in those videos.

You hear a strange male voice and a normal female voice speaking at the same time. The male voice comes out the speakers, after being pitched down and the female voice, well comes out of her mouth. The guy who is recording her on this videos stands pretty close to her and this is why he also hears and records her real voice and not only the processed voice from the speakers.

Dude you can totally hear her FEMALE voice overlapping the processed voice in exactly the video you posted. Just listen.

I thought Amanda was a tranny. But no she's real woman. She just uses some device to change her voice. You can watch the video of her talking to the crowd and you can hear her real feminine voice when she got close to the camera.

Wait! Did she say she was a puppet? Could he be using his voice and talking for her sometimes?

To all the naysayers: you are missing the point. Maybe because the thread is mistitled. Op is saying that the "majestic ape" character is a role that can be filled by multiple actors. Sort of like the idea of anonymous. And because of the anonymity of the character both Amanda and James could be playing the character of "majestic ape"

Here is a pic of AK if someone can capture it https://advising.columbian.gwu.edu/amanda-kleinman-0

I've also thought Majestic Ape is a man for some time. Don't know who, but that is a gay/tranny voice.

It could be as simple as they both portray this character.

Sometimes it's Amanda and sometimes JA. Hence the elaborate disguise.

Hi guys

I think Majestic Ape is several different person

On a few videos you can see him with a little beard, but watching other videos, you can see obviously a woman mouth, without beard.

http://archive.fo/8xXFG

This is her you fuckin' nerds. You can see her face in one of the videos. I hypothesized that Amanda was James' daughter. I couldn't find anything regarding her parents in my initial dig.

http://archive.fo/8xXFG

This is her you nerds. You can see her face in one of the videos.

Kleinman flat out states in that long ramble at Sasha's birthday party that he is a tranny (I'm not going to link it but it is about 3/4 of the way through the video, i'm sure you can find it yourself). He talks about going into the back to see a different band and finding out that they are all trannys only to later say that it was looking in the mirror. This theory may have legs. Hairy ones.

Also notice that all of the detractors never provide links to their "proof" like a link to a MySpace page for example, keep an eye on those guys. I think you might have hit a nerve!

To be fair your comment is totally irrelevant bullshit which discredits hard work of people who actually bring relevant content.

You obviously have no idea how sound and its manipulation works. The moment you are referring to clearly is some kind of threshold being hit in the vocoder-like effect which they use on his voice. What you perceive as a women's voice is nothing but a generated doubling of the already effected voice in higher pitched frequencies. Vocoder soft-or hardware often has the option to "overdrive" the chosen setup which at some level, depending on the tool, exactly results in this effect.

Each picture is strikingly bizarre. Looks like they were meticulously picked out too.

I'm not so sure about this.

First of all the body looks female, ring finger is longer than index finger (on a female the ring finger is longer) In some videos Amanda person looks short.

Not saying you aren't right, but those things alone makes me doubt this.

Amanda has a myspace page with photos of her and photos of her dressed up as majestic ape. So no its not alefantis. There shouldnt even be any question in anyones minds whether its her or not.

I think it is more, my opinion he's a covert operator (which doesn't rule out sociopath at all). He's the "show runner" responsible for getting the "product" to the "consumer" and providing the visuals, the sounds, the drugs, the venue, the catering both normal and sacreligious, etc...It's made him very powerful in DC - until now. I agree that video of him showing those guys around - he was so smarmy, like he just loved being nice to these people calling him a pedo. Any normal person wouldn't have reacted like that to those allegations. An innocent person would have called in law enforcment and demanded they inspect to debunk and put that kind of stuff to bed once and for all. The whiff of pedo can kill a career and a life. But he can't do that, so he smiles and acts like he's being victimized.

I wouldn't be surprised if they share the role and that they both play Majestic Ape at different times

No, that was Brocks' former partner William Grey whom he claimed tried to blackmail him, b4 he was with Alefantis

Do a google image search for Amanda Kleinman. Sixth picture from the right is the most recent. Looks a lot like the person in the mask, lips and all. She is not an attractive woman.

Upon second glance the bulge on the lower part of the lip is definitely very similar. But I'd like to a pic of Kleinman alongside the masked figure.

Nah, I don't think so. Ive seen enough material to say that their bodies are very definitely different. He is pretty fit, she isn't and has a shorter female type body, a bit dumpy. She also wears a lot of granny knitted type stuff both with mask on and in band pics without mask.

However, I do theorize that Alefantis may have something to do with the video productions. He produced a "movie" about a girl getting trapped and raped on an island and some other visual materials. I don't believe their "band" that plays shows at homes with a couple of people present (wtf but she said it) is legit, it is a cover. Those videos are used to entrain and victimize. My thread here discusses it further HB and MK Ultra here is example of how CIA uses music to torture - CIA Torture music

How did Alefantis get in the middle of the pizza cult to become a mover and shaker in DC? is he a covert agent of some black ops agency? Even the people who create the "art" for black ops have to live somewhere, it is not out of the realm of possiblity that that is why the art and culture at CPP is so very creepy.

Have you tried sending the images to an expert in facial analysis? (without mentioning the context).

"i'm going to have to conclude you are a shill"

I don't buy your pet theory so I'm a shill? lol. Come up with some real evidence and I'd be happy to support your claim. I don't even find it that implausible a theory, I just don't think people should get ahead of themselves. Have you sent the recordings to an expert in voice analysis? Have you compared pictures of Kleinman with the ski mask person?

what about that radio interview with Amanda talking about the attacks and threats her band recieves?

seriously.

why haven't yall considered that A RED SKI MASK, AND A BLONDE WIG can be used by multiple people? they're clearly connected in ways that we haven't seen

fucking literally fucking /s

Well if what you're saying is true -- that they "alternate" -- you're going to need some pretty strong evidence. Because we already have lots of pics of Kleinman and she really has led various bands with the skimask persona.

In my opinion a disturbed man plays this role. Seems like Alefantis to me. This Amanda Klein is either made up, to lend it creedence, or a seperate person of interest.

what about stature?? In the vids I've seen, AK in her red mask definitely had a body type and height that looks female to me.

Is JA short? We need some comparisons of full height images of red mask AK and JA

Note: I have been assuming that AK's "gay male" voice was the result of some kind of machine made audio effect hooked up to microphone. If you pay attention, during some of her inane speeches, the audio effect seems to wane when she laughs at the end of her statements. In that split second, she sounds for sure female (to my ears).

I think you are right...

Here is Amanda Kleinman speaking live:

https://youtu.be/vlhBn_zSIro?t=79

And here is James Alefantis speaking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTiUaloDDA

Double life or what ? Lol

Are there any videos of James Alefantis talking? If there are we can compare their voices..

If you hear him/her/it talk, it has the voice of a gay male. It's absolutely him.

Bingo.

Possibility...with the magnificent ape mask. But I kind of doubt it.