BedAndRektfast

Forget USB sticks, it makes no sense.

Something like what they sell at PocketMaps.com would be far more effective. If you wanted to drop things randomly around as you go even a bunch of inexpensive business cards would at least number in the hundreds.

BedAndRektfast

Randomly dropped USB sticks is very silly.

NotAnIdiot

Everyone should aggregate as much information as possible and keep it for their investigation. Only when it's enough to completely break it open (I'm talking hard evidence, not connections) should we bring it all out.

The amount of people that suicided or disappeared at critical timeframes in Clinton prosecution attempts is incredible. As I said, they will always target keytargets to save resources, and they will only react when feeling threatened. We need to generate timelines of events of the Clinton Foundation and put in each and every person that died/disappeared at the correct position on the timeline and subject and we will start to see a pattern what kind of operation they tend to protect the most.

I think this should be a next step. We need a complete timeline on when people died under suspicious circumstances, what they were doing at the time, and what the Foundation did around the time (both immediately before and after).

After we do that I'd think the financial angle should produce something as well.

CandyPanda

Fair observations. I still feel that just keeping pushing back on everything is a valid way to undermine them. It's definitely gotten a lot more people to listen than years back. They've been pushing an agenda of globalization that is starting to fall on deaf ears finally. Just watching people who have pursued this for a living that worked in and around the justice system be ignored and then disappear is kind of a statement against doing it on our own. The power is in the numbers. They don't have to be clever when they control everything from the media to the companies to the government, that was proven all throughout the Bill Clinton administration - every public outrage led to no convictions. But I agree that resurfacing all of those things is to our advantage.

There are three things they've used historically to undermine any public awareness to their illegal activities (across the board): the illusion that they are good people doing good work, that the DOJ, CIA, and others are a force for good, and that they are better than the average citizen and therefore should be put/kept in charge. These are the three things we need to continue to chip away at to get others to become aware that none of these things have been true for decades, especially with this crew. Unless one of us is in a position to directly call for an investigation, they won't even respond to us, and if we become a problem or get too close, they will get rid of us - that's what they do. I highly recommend staying in the light - they can only operate in the darkness.

LtSilverFox

Nice analysis.

MWcrazyhorse

"We have to be careful at this immense level of conspiracy to not instantly trigger the peoples cognitive dissonance, but slowly introduce them to the idea of things being wrong." I see where you are coming from. I think that is a misconception however. The best wakeup call is shock. We've tried slowly wakeing people up, exposing this and that, debating politics trying to slowly move them a bit here and there. This here is a meal best served piping hot. The media is in full war mode labelling everything fake. They may even be short of major censorship. We have the momentum. The media is at its lowest trustworthyness. This is the time to finish them off. They are down. Don't let them get back up. We have the streisand effect additionaly. Let's spread the truth. Kek will shine the light praise be upon him.

If you can hammer out battle plans and organisational structures and task forces and everything you can come up with that's great. You sound very organized and thoughtful. In poker terms this is the all-in moment. We have to call them on their "fake news" and pedophilia cover up. Our hand is the nuts. And we have them by the nuts. Literaly. We have them where we want them.

Also the election is over. We won. What motive would we have NOW to make anything up? Shock, Logic, facts, emotion, persistance, a movement, streisand effect, free speech, Kek. It's a royal flush.

If you understand NLP SHOCK is everything in convincing. See the handshake induction.

golly

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression in the US court system you can get sentenced on circumstantial evidence only.

bidentime

From another conversation on this voat sub I see that I'm probably a little older than the norm here. For those who may not remember, Rathergate was a big deal in its time, it was the first crowdsourced investigation that I was aware of. Not sure what revisionist history says, but I watched it unfold in real time and it significantly contributed to the downfall of Dan Rather, who was a teller of lies cloaked as mainstream news.

There are some here who are waiting for the media to cover pizzagate, but rathergate shows that the media won't cover this until the voice of the people shame them into it. I'm grateful to see the eyes of the internet turn toward pizzagate. This target is larger, more nebulous, and more powerful, but I've seen what the light of truth can do when people use it as a laser against evil.

It's important to ask yourself the serious question of what do you have to lose in this investigation? What do you have to lose by sharing what you know? Reputation? Friends? Employment opportunities? Perhaps your life? All true, perhaps. If you are fearful, use anonymity. If you don't trust on-line anonymity, consider paper leaflet drops. Make them your own. Make them simple. Make them. Make them hear.

There is safety in numbers, so boldness in the face of fear actually protects you in the long run. This won't be easy. I think we are in for the longest and hardest battle for our lives with pizzagate. Stay fluid. Gird yourselves, and do not grow weary of doing good.

LostandFound

Thank you for your brilliant post. Have you considered if this whole thing is a control scheme to look into the trends leading up to certain high level paedophile arrests. It's only good for control if you know it will be used if you step out of line, so at least some of the powerful that have been convicted must have broken ranks to have been made an example of. A small example is Jeffrey Epstien he must have needed a lesson taught to him when he got his 14 month slap on the wrist.

amCassandraAMA

Regarding shill disinformation operation: That basement of Comet Ping Pong starts to seem fishy to me. No other topic has even been posted thrice, only very few were double, but this goes into the dozen. Since it is quite probable that they cleansed the place already this is an obvious dead end they really seem interested in us investing resources into it because they can easily refute it by the media in the next step of operation Fake News, when they start to have to adress the topic, the basement thing will be the first thing explained. "It's just our party room in the back, that is three steps down, haha, its listed as second floor because of marketing ;) these silly trolls, and this one hacker called 4chan".

Also, Grim Reader has provided some of the most useful sources, but gets openly accused of being fake.

Letsdoit

Great observations sugested strategy and focus. Thank you.

Here some of my related thoughts.

How to HELP people in the know and/or with access to crucial information TO PUBLISH ANONYMOUS.

There must be loads of people that can and are willing to help. But are afraid of not being capable/not knowing how to do it safe and anonymous.

Can we have BROCHURES that also have SPECIFIC GUIDELINES HOW TO PUBLISH/LEAK INFO ANONYMOUS?

I feel brochures like that could also include specific hints asking for information about court records acountancy you name it. Evrybody has family they could hand this to, evrybody knows someone that can help.

Many victims will be afraid to come out and name names.

Even paid shills can be invited to leak how they have been setup to do what they do.

Even satanist that have seen enough and want to see this stopped, must be out there.

They keep this info to be able to blackmail. So there will be at least 100 times more proof out there than we need to stop it.

Hope to hear more creative sugestions on how we can get that info, as quick and easy as possible.

Peace and love to all helping to end this.

Vindicator

Why not offer a crowd funded reward for video, audio, or documents leading to the arrest of the people we are after?

amCassandraAMA

What is important is I can imagine situations that would explain this language. If John Podesta claims he plans to open a fast food franchise and was planning it with a friend over some drinks, that could explain scribbles on a handkerchief that are pizza related. We have enough found though to know they are in it anyway, even if some of the emails are harmless. What email I think is harmless for example is the walnut, since some of them are known hobby chefs.

The hotdog stand in Hawaii is clear codespeech though, id bet money on that, aswell as the 1 hour pizza.

They are also refutable though. "I was just imagining an easier life in a stressful situation, Id love to have a hot dog business and love Hawaii", "We literally ate pizza, and I only had 1 hour lunch break in between 2 meetings".

Why I think they use codespeech that is obvious, being unbelievable careless in face of the prosecution they would have to face if they get revealed:

There are multiple explanations:

In case of Alefantis, and Tony Podesta, as I said they are self certain individuals that are arrogant and see other people as victims primarily. If you notice you can get away with something socially negatively connotated, you get an adrenaline rush (and dopamine). Since pedophiles are highly urge driven individuals, they will soon come back to reexperience this rush, and start to leave traces, inside jokes and metaphors as mockery and sign of dominance. LOOK AT ME YOU FOOLS, IM HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT. It is a form of power to exercise over your surroundings.

This is well documented behaviour of some convicted pedophiles and serial killers.

Also: carelessness: nobody, not even sociopaths, can be aware and alert 100% of the time. A permanently tensed bow starts to wear out, as one says. This leads to mistakes.

They may also lower their guard, because they feel safe, because they use a connection they deem to be safe, after all they worked their way up to be in or close to the government of the fucking united states of america.

And then of course is stupidity. Our society is a bell curve, and not only we, also pedophiles have to abide the normal gaussian distribution. Some are smarter, few are genius, some are simple, few are stupid.

We cannot evidence code speech, but that isn't necessary anymore anyway.

We have hard evidence of them doing this shit.

Truthseeker77

Yes!! Hiding in plain sight! The paedophilia symbols on businesses and foundations is what did it for me. You cannot tell me it was by accident. Those who know, KNOW!!! it's like a welcome mat! Because it's such a taboo subject people turn their head. That is exactly how it grows. And it is huge!!! Time to turn on the light and watch the roaches scatter!!!

BrickInTheVVall

Excellent post. Thanks for spending your time writing this.

amCassandraAMA

they have huge meta data kraken, that will possibly observe bigger orders of sticks now.

It is best to buy them at the local store in smaller badges or at different places. Think like a criminal, because they probably will make you one. Not using the internet or mobile phones is Intelligence biggest enemy

C1REX

What a great post. Should be sticky on top IMHO.

justanotherone

I think research has to go where it will. But I can see the need to distinguish between the hard evidence and the "creepy" and weird softer stuff, obviously both help to paint a picture though, both are valid. And remember that do we have any evidence of Podesta or Alefantis sexually abusing children? No. What we have is clear evidence that they enjoy the subject and have suspicious encrypted files and likely run a kidnapping ring etc... So I think that we should try and split the research to a degree, but obviously there is going to be more of the less hard stuff and if a prosecutor is not going to action this, then does the hard stuff matter? Also people do get convicted in court and the court of public opinion based on circumstantial character traits.

No the real question though is if "They" never act, then what will it take to make people rise up and take back the power?! Assuming we even can.

If we can't get the system to work for us (it would be a first), and if we aren't going to do a violent overthrow, maybe there is a 3rd option!

All Government is based on documents and agreements and public support and perhaps money. But what is stopping the people from generating a document, some inspirational magna carta like document declaring our sovereignty around the world and unifying insisting that this be recognized as authority?! I think nothing!

We could try and beat them to making a NWO, a one world government by grass rooting it, a sort of global anti-globalist elitist movement.

This could be something that the people of each country forces the governments to sign on to and it could install authority in a police force that watches the elite, those above the law! The basic truth is that the police protects from criminals at the bottom of society but does little to protect society from the criminals at the top as they ot-rank and often control the law at all levels.

This could be the liberation of humanity, if done right, and if done!

To clarify, I am suggesting that a type of constitution for the people, with ability to provide some degree of global authority, but not actually the total supplanting of countries governments, but rather ensuring that they serve the people and are not corrupted, sort of like interpol if interpol actually stopped the likes of the Rothschilds, Rockefeller's, Soros, Clintons, Bushes etc...

express-o

I think that any real and lasting solution will have to be something which transcends our current system rather than something which serves to replace or improve upon the existing one. Whenever you have a centralization of power, there will exist the potential to corrupt the entire system. We will need something which decentralizes power and which rests upon some very basic principles. In a very real sense, this is already occurring:

  • Want to build some complex software? Start an open source project and have people contribute.
  • Want to replace the existing media empire? Become an independent journalist and/or support other independent journalists.
  • Want to eat healthy food? Start a farm with your neighbors.
  • Want to build a rocketship? Start a crowd funded project to do it.
  • Want to catch a criminal who is above the law? Guess what ... go do it.
  • Same for money, entertainment, etc ...

There are so many people already doing all of these things. You are already doing these things.

The bad news about a decentralized system is that the responsibility for its proper functioning lies more closely with the individual. The good news about a decentralized system is that the responsibility for its proper functioning lies more closely with the individual. :)

Keep pushing forward and don't forget to carry light, love, and respect in your heart.

amCassandraAMA

You, sir, are a visionary.

I am sadly too cynic already to see that happening, but it would be the most bold, genius, collaborative effort of humankind and first and foremost breathed and lived open source movement.

As long as I can not realistically see it at least moving in that direction though, I prefer a strong rope and a tree

justanotherone

Yes, but we have to do more than just kill them, we need grass roots established sovereignty which stops this kind of thing from happening automatically again!

Let's start it here and now...

  1. The powerful won't rules themselves, we need authority and even some budget (modest tax?) to Police the police.
  2. We need elections which are fair, this means monitored and that the candidates are not unreasonably limited.
  3. Democracy is not an elected dictatorship, elected officials can be recalled and removed from power if they act outside of their mandate, they must serve the people's wishes whenever possible and best and noble interests when not in the majority's wishes. Anything that is not in the interest of democracy is invalid and is done as a powerless citizen and not with the authority of the government.

I am sure much more could be added, but it could be done in such a way that it is hard to fault, it is about anti-corruption, fair elections and limiting countries that claim to be democratic, to democratic powers.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

We need complete transparency. Serving in the senate of our republic should be a religious duty. You must give up your privacy, time, and life to represent millions of people.

amCassandraAMA

I can imagine open vote by PGP key of an online government that can instantly get blocked with distrust votings if enough accumulate. That would be a world worth being politically active in.

stickittotheman

Freaking top notch advice!!! Everyone should take the time to read this! Thankyou!

TruthTrumps

Excellent idea. Could leave/distribute everywhere...coffeeshops ,libraries, bars, street corners, college campuses... you name it. Also could mail them and instruct to pass along.

Hopevoats

Except that they will just counter with dangerous virus or child pornography sticks. "See? Don't touch sticks you find or even sticks that someone sends you. You could get hacked, or even end up in jail."

I like the premise, but we have to be smarter than they are. There needs to be a benign entrance into people's worlds. Something like Bejeweled of Words with Friends. Then hit them all with it at once.

amCassandraAMA

This is what happens in war, moves will get countered and you counter the counter. People will suffer, that is a given.

USB distribution will at least reach some people, and it will most importantly activate the youth on snap chat, the authorities have absolutely no idea how to control, because that generation is alien to them.

You are right, your suggestion is a probable answer to that tactic, but if they start that, we will start to print out the shit and leave it laying around. What will they do? Start monitoring printer usage? Fuck you, then I handwrite it.

Hey_Sunshine

Make a really good stencil of comet ping pong's logo and a tag your local high visibility monument. Everybody loves free viral marketing right?

HomeboyChris

People try to strategize too much. Just hit the battlefield and go nuts till we get somewhere. Dont stop long enough for them to adjust their tactics quick enough. We are more agile than them and we are using new methods they dont understand.

apparatchik1488

We need to stop being afraid of these filthy, dirty, hook nosed KIKES. We are good people. They are the epitome of evil.

VieBleu

I would like to have your post removed. There is no place in this discussion for racism. There are a whole lot of pedo Catholic priests don't forget, and a whole lot of WASPs too - Sandusky for example.
So take it somewhere else.

CJJacobs

We don't censor here.

VieBleu

that's not true - a no tolerance for anything promoting violence or vigilante justice is being discussed now by mods. This isn't 4chan, this is a public forum with an easily opened gate, which means that certain things like racism and violence which is sometimes associated with far alt right forums will do more harm for this topic than the temporary muting of people's free speech to be violence prone and/or racists. They are welcome to do that on other forums.

CJJacobs

The only limit on free speech -- legally, and by constitutional definition -- is when the speech incites or could incite physical violence.

If voat wants to make it and stay afloat as a viable speech and information forum, the legal definition of free speech should be kept and people should just learn to grow a thicker skin toward speech they 'dislike'.

In other words, free speech is for the speech we don't like, not for the speech we agree with. Merely racist or distasteful speech should NOT be banned. Free speech is a bulwark of any investigation and of any sane society. It should not be tampered with (unless, as I said, it will result in violence). We need free speech - speech that is distasteful, unpleasant, or even ugly -- to be allowed in this way to keep civil society.

VieBleu

other forums on Voat can do different things - this forum has a benefit from staying away from race baiting, vigilante justice, violence type comments because of it's specific purpose. There are plenty of places for people to exercise their speech, this is about investigating pizzagate. I'm not going to argue with you, if you don't get it, so be it.

apparatchik1488

Oi vey, shut it down! the goyim know!

Truthseeker77

Pedos come in every religion and ethnicity!! To think otherwise is foolish.

Headstart

Seconded. In my experience as a victim, those at the top would use pedos of whatever religion / culture when it best suited the mission.

MadMonkey

"hook nosed KIKES."

" We are good people."

Choose one of those. Say it.

amCassandraAMA

not afraid but aware.

apparatchik1488

No argument here. But remember that the Jew behind the curtain only has power because we Goyim follow him and his systems. When we reject the Jew, the Jew becomes powerless very quickly.

amCassandraAMA

I understand your thinking, and while strategically accurate you sabotage the operation if your refer to them as Jew, because it triggers protectionist reactions about religious freedom and antifaschistoid indoctrinations and so on.

They are guilty regardless of their religion, it isn't necessary in this context even though I know of the kind of Zionist conspiracy you refer to. It is even way stronger denied by the majority than pizzagate. That is said without evaluating it, I personally am not really buying it, but tolerating.

We have to work together for the greater good, and that is a polarising topic you are raising.

apparatchik1488

Let me explain to you what pizzagate is about: It is not just another pedo scandal. It is about the fact that the world's gentile frontmen in world politics are all being blackmailed and extorted by their semitic masters. If you are not interested in naming the master then you miss the whole point.

TruthTrumps

I am stating to think those posting rabid anti jew remarks are really bent on destroying/ discrediting the investigation.

apparatchik1488

I'm starting to think that those who are shilling for the jews, when every pedo scandal reads like a tel aviv phonebok, are a psyop.

amCassandraAMA

That'd be a normal move of PSYOP to distract and troll, but it's an ongoing conspiracy in 8chan for years now, one can't contain it. The only real method of completely ruining all agents efforts I've found is forcing completely constructive dialogue. Everybody who wants to abort, reroute, sabotage, clutter, red herring/disinfo, emotionalise the discussion is easily spotted this way.