XVktm

Repudiate. You may to also want to repudiate it. But it's a bit late for this now don't you think? You see, when you accuse people of crimes against children BEFORE you have a legit case, legit evidence or even an actual victim of the alleged abuse that can be brought to authorities, you invite vigilantism, death threats, and witch hunts. When you fan the flames, conduct your "investigation" in the open,online, and NAME NAMES of people you THINK have committed something so horrible, you're going to set off the whack-jobs. Now you back peddle and say "WHOA...that's NOT what we're about" Well, it IS what you're about. It's what has been going on here and on the reddit from DAY ONE. It's been a witch hunt from Day One. But all of a sudden, everyone's offended by it.

Don't misunderstand me. Your intent is good, obviously. Nobody doubts that. It's just the MANNER in which most of you go about it. Accusing people of a horrible crime just because you find something about their Instagram or emails "suspicious". You shout down ANYONE who tries to counter your assumptions, and let's be honest, that's all they are right now, assumptions and conjecture. No hard evidence that could bring charges against any of the principles. Yet, where this community parts ways with actual professional investigators, is that this community has no issue whatsoever with leveling these accusations against people who may not be actually guilty. No, to everyone here, ALL of these people are GUILTY AS FUCK, they're ALL pedos and even though none of it has been PROVEN yet, everyone here still calls them pedos, rapists, murderers, satanists, etc. You slap the label on them and RAGE when people try to point out the flaws in your argument or tactics. It's the very definition of a witch hunt and in your haste to convict them in your circus court you've damaged the very credibility you so desperately seek. Then this back-peddling. It's precisely why you are mocked outside of your bubble. I'll stand by and wait for the insults and accusations aginst me to begin in 3...2...

ZalesMcMuffin

TL;DR: We promise to just bleat while you "elites" keep raping our children! Please don't depict us negatively while we do so!

Also, you misspelled "repudiate" in your title.

sigh OK, OK... I agree that people shouldn't go Rambo on these folks... for now. Honestly, though: if RAPING BABIES isn't enough to get you out of your chair, what the hell is??

blind_sypher

Yes, even though I find myself flying into fits of rage thinking about this I would never act on them or even voice them because I know we gotta do this the right way if we really wanna nail these assholes. We can let the general population in the pen express themselves more appropriately when the time comes.

Royce_of_Veason

So glad you posted this. I know the periodic troll/shill epidemic does muddy the waters and engorge disinfo — but this statement is encompassing and specific, and I believe it to be the thoughts of most subscribers here. You have my (our) gratitude.

B3nd3r

We are not a group

/thread.

AaronDover

I totally disagree we (the people) need to execute these pedos as publicly as possible to deter the abuse and murder of kids that continues daily. The whole idea of asking the "authorities" i.e. the masons to investigate and shut down the criminal operations of the masons is, obvoously, a masonic brainwashing psyop. Fuck the illegitimate "authorities", shoot the pedos and the CIA shills as soon as possible and burn them in the streets. And any masonic police that get in the way of real justice for these poor kids.

goatboy

This is a lie. We don't repudiate violence against pedophiles nor authorities who aid pedophiles. We must be honest with ourselves. We have righteous indignation, resolve, and our cause is just. We demand justice and if our demand is not satisfied because authorities are complicit in crimes against children, then the enemy of justice must expect a tidal wave of violence for his crimes against the children! There are forces at play here that will set the whole world on fire if the enemy of the children is not punished. Authorities have a choice: join us or be crushed by our ideals.

pray_the_gay_away

There comes a time when we MUST gather our pitchforks and torches.

B3nd3r

who is we?

Is pizzagate a corp now?

Is there a hierarchy already that I'm not aware of?

Am I taking crazypills or what?!

NeverSober

You reddit faggots are truly useless. You embarrass yourselves and everyone you associate with nonsense and noise.. Until you learn how to police your own community, and formulate a rational argument, you are just stroking your own egos. You have a chance to change the world, but because you are such demented, deformed, and demoralized people you can barely pose a coherent argument.

Phobos_Mothership

I think we may have the wrong idea about Voat being taken down because of this false flag. This attack was to influence public opinion on pizzagate investigators, not take out the investigation itself. Much easier to make us all look like violent tinfoil hatters than to actually destroy our ability to communicate.

We are all just scarred from reddit. Reddit had shitty admins who took it on themselves to censor people and directly influence the narrative on the website.

Voat is not like that, no censorship here. If they want to take down v/pizzagate they will have to take down Voat or infiltrate its administration.

That being said, I've been surprised before. If voat does get taken down, we will just reassemble on 4chan until we find another new forum..

thicktail1730947

I've seen suggestions of violence. I haven't seen many. I've complained at the people who made them. I will continue to do so. It isn't what we're here for. It won't help.

I suspect there is a blackmail ring functioning via the exploitation of children to corrupt the American government, and as a patriotic citizen, I am appalled. I hope the investigative agencies formed for the purpose of breaking such rings will investigate seriously and begin to purge this issue from our government in accord with their own patriotic duties.

HopeStillFlies

as a group

Don't fall into the GamerGate trap.

You're not a group.

You're an association.

You're a hashtag.

http://i.imgur.com/Bcdg1XN.png

ifeeltrulysick

HAHAHA , you still believe in authorities, what a naive dumbsky

RecycledUser

I agree. I DO like the post made yesterday (I think) with an official statement that President Trump could sign, as far as this situation.

Also, would it be worth it, for someone to draft a summarized doc, that we could distribute on a certain day (either soon, or after 1/20), to every LE we can, to act on this?

pizzagatewillnotdie

Part of the problem is, the vast majority of the general public only knows about pizzagate from videos they see on youtube. Many videos use scare tactics and ominous music, and false information to make their videos more popular to garner views/subscriptions. If you go to the video I link, you can see people calling for violence and spreading tons of hateful comments. I've been trying/begging/pleading to SGTReport to take it down since it went up a week ago. It is basically spreading fake "smoking gun" evidence about a document/menu of torture that was debunked on /r/pizzagate before it was shut down, and is provoking a lot fuel to make people violently upset. His response? He makes another video about it. It pisses me off so bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsH5_nUFS70

MeatballPizza

Some have suggested these 'call to violence' are part of psy op. Discredit the real investigation by encouraging a few loons to go over the edge.

pizzagatewillnotdie

Possibly, but he had a really good video he put out right before that one that listed the missing children statistics that everyone quotes now for the missing kids in Virginia. Then he produces that crap. Angers me to no end.

Runaway-White-Slave

Then start repudiating government violence too. And not just the parts that are politically expedient to do so for this cause.

MeatballPizza

Ha! Nice catch. No spellcheck on Voat!

Shoahshekelmeister

Authorities won't do shit about it, because THEY are the pedos. The only question is to be certain that they are guilty. If they are guilty, I would buy a beer to anyone taking care of them.

HelpingChildren

Ty well spoken. I agree totally.

edthomson92

I'm wondering, is the best way to get the authorities to do their job starting with a trusted private investigator(s) who'll do a bunch of the starting work for them? It should be completely fucking unnecessary, but it might yield results

Only problem is if authorities decide to kill him instead of doing their damn jobs

apparatchik1488

To be fair, a lot of us are alt right Nazis from /pol

veritas_vincit

Moreover, we have repeatedly advised our members not even to contact suspects, much less physically confront them. We don't even tolerate posting contact info, phone numbers, etc.

If this gunman was motivated by Pizzagate, we can safely say he was very out of touch with the spirit of our community.

@kingkongwaswrong If this story blows up, people will be coming to the Voat. I request stickying this thread or one like it for a temporary period to make our stance on it clear.

pizzathrowaway

I dunno, on the other thread, some dude said that if that guy had shot Alefantis he would be "a hero." (I think such a person would be an idiot and a murderer).

Codewow

Agreed. Everyone here is acting on their own accord and with no prior -- nor future direction -- with or without provisions, of the investigation as a whole.

Artlife

This was very well written. Like everyone else says, we just want the authorities to do their job. If they won't do it, then we can only spread the word and put the pressure on them to protect all children and lock these sickos up for good.

Kal

While you guys are exercising your 1st amendment right, you should consider exercising your 2nd in your home.

MeatballPizza

Anyone comes at us or our families we will exercise our 2nd Amendment rights defending our homes.

duerheltdum

Your reckless accusations have led to violence. I know you saw some crossed ping pong paddles and thought it looked like a pedophile symbol, but that isn't "smoke"--it's you being deranged.

hafen

There's more to pizzagate than crossed ping-pong paddles...

TBH, you kinda sound invested in a particular outcome. Such amazing tool at your disposal (the internet), and for some reason, you've decided crossed paddles are the only think we've found. Either an invested shill, or been drinking too much MSM koolaide me thinks. You're on v/pizzagate for crying out loud.

Gorillion

Found the cheese freak kiddie fucker.

HelpingChildren

No one makes any one do anything, and it is ridiculous and unfounded what you have said. No one here drove him by gun point and said do this or else. Every violent act of any person is a willful act of their own volition, unless a gun is pointed at them. If you do not like the investigation leave and don't come back. You are the deranged one, living in lala land.

MeatballPizza

Have you visited the Instagram archive for Comet Ping Pong? Do you think the jokes and comments made there about the sexual abuse of children was appropriate? Funny?

What about saying 'all ages welcome' to a band that features pedo images on their website?

Comet Ping Pong, its owners and operators, and their fan base are the cause of all of the suspicions surrounding this business.

MeatballPizza

This board is well moderated. There is a splinter group on Voat (all of the anti-Jewish conspiracy people migrated there) and there are folks on 4chan who are either shills are also neo-Nazi types. Of course, there are Communists who support Hillary and Bernie, so can't have guilt by association.

bigDanold

We are not "conspiracy theorists" and this is not a "conspiracy theory." This is hard evidence of pedophilia that the mainstream media is making a concerted effort to ignore. Where there's smoke, there's fire. If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, its probably a duck.

From now now, when you read an article, or hear the mention of "conspiracy theorist", substitute those words for "those seeking the truth." Then restate the sentence and see how foolish you sound.

goatboy

Embrace the term. Let it flow through you, wash over you, overwhelm you, and rush past you- then it can never be used as a weapon against you.

MeatballPizza

"Conspiracy theory" is actually a phrase invented by... the C.I.A. Meant to make those seeking to expose the truth look like nuts.

However, there is a possible criminal conspiracy here - child trafficking and sex ring - and it is a theory - unproven as of yet.

So it is a 'conspiracy theory' as no one is yet making public accusations using definitive proof.

The MSM is ignoring the legitimate questions that have been raised and not doing a basic who/what/when/where/why bit of reporting. That's only helped spread the legitimacy of our cause.

bigDanold

All good points. And yes this technically is a "conspiracy theory" although it's becoming less "theory" literally by the hour.

This next part isn't in reply to you, just leaving it here: There are a couple of counter arguments that need to be stated constantly. 1) Only pedos would be AGAINST researching this 2) Covering up for this is almost, or as bad as, committing the crimes. 3) For every "report" saying this is baseless, unfounded, absurd, etc. that is just a "narrative" being pushed by the pedos. When shown the pictures and evidence, there are FAR MORE people that would say this is the #1 thing our nation should be investigating (fairly and impartially) at this point in time.

MeatballPizza

The thing about conspiracy theories generally are there's NO EVIDENCE that can disprove them.

We've tried here to debunk the most commonly repeated lies. But I still see them pop up on youtube vids.

We_The_People

We are not advocating violence. We just want a real investigation from an outside agency. That is all.

ByTheBook

ACTION TIME PEOPLE! OPERATION PHISHERS OF MEN!

Save this image. Choose seven churches randomly across the country. Either email this image as an attachment or print it out and mail it by post to the Luddites.

If you send it as an attachment, save the file as revelation9v21.

You may use this text or paraphrase as best you are able.

"Greetings in the name of Jesus Christ!

In the name of he who as died, rose from the dead, and will come again, I implore you to read the attached file. I pray that you who read this will clear your mind of past influence and come to this with an open heart. It contains information of international and immortal importance. If you are not the head of your parish, please also forward this to them. If you would rather not download the file, try going to view it on an image server here: https://i.sli.mg/eoWIeB.jpg

Once you have read this and viewed the pictures, pray. Then if you think it worth doing so, forward this on to seven other diocese that the word may spread. Email, in person, telephone, smoke signal, it doesn't matter how you spread the word, just spread it! Be careful, if you post it to facebook it will be taken down. What you do with this information I leave to the will of God. We will need good shepherds soon.

I pray you do not disregard this message. Amen."

JesusSavestheKids

DROP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND DO THIS NOW! SPREAD THE WORD! SPREAD THE TRUTH!

edit: ChurchAngel.com should be helpful in finding email addresses.

skeetskeet

needs to be stickied

Millennial_Falcon

It's in the sidebar.

SaneGoatiSwear

this needs one billion upvoats.

Chance903

Jeus , very IMPRESSIVE ,wow what a job extremely concise ,eye catching and easy to read, Thank you so much.

ByTheBook

Hijacking top comment with more about Jeus[sic].

ACTION TIME PEOPLE! OPERATION PHISHERS OF MEN!

Save this image. Choose seven churches randomly across the country. Either email this image as an attachment or print it out and mail it by post to the Luddites.

If you send it as an attachment, save the file as revelation9v21.

You may use this text or paraphrase as best you are able.

"Greetings in the name of Jesus Christ!

In the name of he who as died, rose from the dead, and will come again, I implore you to read the attached file. I pray that you who read this will clear your mind of past influence and come to this with an open heart. It contains information of international and immortal importance. If you are not the head of your parish, please also forward this to them. If you would rather not download the file, try going to view it on an image server here: https://i.sli.mg/eoWIeB.jpgJPG

Once you have read this and viewed the pictures, pray. Then if you think it worth doing so, forward this on to seven other diocese that the word may spread. Email, in person, telephone, smoke signal, it doesn't matter how you spread the word, just spread it! Be careful, if you post it to facebook it will be taken down. What you do with this information I leave to the will of God. We will need good shepherds soon.

I pray you do not disregard this message. Amen."

JesusSavestheKids

DROP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND DO THIS NOW! SPREAD THE WORD! SPREAD THE TRUTH!

edit: ChurchAngel.com should be helpful in finding email addresses.

brokencookie

I agree. Now what do we do if the authorities won't do their job?

AaronDover

Their ONLY job is to protect the very people we need to execute to safeguard our children.

MeatballPizza

Wikileaks provided the m.o. on what to do to hold those in power accountable.

I am also concerned this apparent act of violence may lead to the new WARRANTS being issued where anyone posting her or other sites, regardless of their motives and without a specific showing of need, may wind up on some list as part of a criminal investigation.

thatguyiam

If they refuse to do their job it means they are involved. All of them at th top? Is that why we don't hear of any mutiny at the top? There is NO ONE who isn't involved

Codewow

Stay alert, and press forward.

Malignment

Amen!

krisspykriss

Exactly. We are hear to stop the violence, not add to it.

MeatballPizza

Well put!