Agreed.

Pedogate

I feel the whole 'divide and conquer' scenario being played out. I am concerned with some of the bigger names who have been stepping up.

No this will just create confusions

I'll be honest when I heard the term Pizzagate for the first time on TV, I thought it was a quirky human interest story like Pizza rat, or a story about a campaign ordering pizza and not paying for it.

The sinister crime ring deserves a more serious name.

If we focused on Jeffrey Epstein's illegal plea bargain , people could start being arrested today. Yes, there is that much evidence of corruption by the court system. That's always been the strongest part of this case.

Calls for rebranding are calls to dilute and dissolve

Advocation for rebranding is one of the first things done to corrupt a community forum

I was thinking about this, yesterday. We need to take a page out of their own book and start an organization with such a name that they cannot criticize without exposing their evil.

We need a charity with some name like "Global Child Protection Force". We need lawyers and a website with a forum. 100% transparency and professionalism. Use their own tactics to root them out.

>Time to rebrand?

>We have moved on

>we are starting to find real evidence

>I propose

>I propose we take everything we found, and rebrand it

>we need to agree

We? There's no "We". Making it a "We", a movement, a brand, a formal organization makes it into the next controlled opposition .

Speak for yourself. I don't know you, you don't know me. We share no responsibility for individual words or action.

I agree. Talking about pedophilia and corruption and crime innpolitics is something that we can talk more openly. Nobody can tell the whole movement is fake.

Lol nice try trying to split us apart. This is Pizzagate and will forever be Pizzagate.

Thank you. The December DC shooting, covered by every major news organization in the world, just legitimized research into #PizzaGate by linking Clinton to a child sex trafficking network. No news organization has an excuse now to not research the possible leads that motivated the shooter's actions. And that includes bloggers, youtubers and podcasters. Nobody can sue you for researching the shooters motivations regarding "a conspiracy he was researching," as the police said.

Just gave my 1st down vote! Agree with below comments for better or worse thats the name.. to me it started with map thats pizza related and let onto Comet... now its progressing to body parts and vaccines with lots of suicides along the way. There is momentum with Pizzagate we should stick with. Eg twittergate and spirit cooking has lost momentum, finding out the truth and getting it out is important not a branding exercise

Also, insinuates evidence (files) which is always good.

I think we should keep it as pizzagate. It will eventually trickle into normies brains as pizzagate and they will be able to find everything on the net

Get the fuck out of here with your divide and conquer fracture point bullshit. It's #pizzagate

The media won't stop.

Just look at #GamerGate, there were constant calls from journalists to change the hashtag. Just rebrand and the media would take us seriously.

But every time something slightly related happened, such as GG supporters starting a campaign dedicated to a specific game or a completely unrelated group of celebrities make a hashtag to improve the public's perception of gamers, the media attacks and tries to saddle the new thing with all the old bullshit.

All you'll do is confuse those on the outside looking in.

well that point goes to you

if we sit and wait for them it will be bad for us no matter what, we have to go the into offensive and reduce their leverage https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1462668

ad hominem helps nobody, stay constructive

How about Operation Millstone or Operation Grindstone? We're not religious, but Jesus said: "If anyone hurts one of these little ones, it were better a millstone hung aeound his neck and he dropped in the sea."

The brand name Operation Millstone or Operation Grindstone will trigger in many allies' minds: natural curiosity, subconscious resolve, and need for vengeance. It will wake the sleeping giant.

It will also minimize the impact enemy propaganda plays. The enemy can broadcast his own signal about us and our intentions 24 hour a day. But an effective brand like Millstone will compel potential allies to reference back to original source material in their own minds and disregard the enemy's reprogramming efforts in the MSM. The original source material will likely sunday school for many allies, which is a powerful programming code base for us to tap into.

United we stand? Yes, we do. Pizzagate is real

Personally i wish that a few dozen of the best investigators would just get together, work in private, keep their findings out of the public eye until they have something substantial. Let Pizzagate become a laughable meme-fest like it is heading, and then BAM, crack it wide open with one big release.

Gamergate was the rebrand. Pizzagate is the rebrand. These things were something else, first. Isn't it interesting.

See, everyone?

Vortexcortex is another person who's lived through these consumer and civilian movement counter-attacks by those in powerful positions. Re-Branding is a "Splitting" tactic. Wake the fuck up.

No thanks 46 min old account. We don't get influenced by concern trolling retards like you.

Member for 46 mins.

Fuck off.

Never "re-brand" once you have legs and are making your enemies scatter before you. When they're on the defensive, they make mistakes and can no longer effectively control the narrative.

They always do this. They tried it with Gamergate too. And when the "SJW" label starting cutting through and really damaging the authoritarian left.

Any label or name that cuts through the noise should never be abandoned because "Smears".

Wow Alex Jones really an had effect on a lot of us with that latest video... I kinda agree with him but I think #pizzagate is an all encompassing term.

I'm not convinced a name change is going to do much, I think we have much bigger things to worry about, like uncovering pedophile rings. Hard Evidence trumps spin 100% of the time.

Actually the mainstream media has been tarnished for years. A lot of people do not take them or what they say seriously. It would be a mistake for us to take them too seriously.

YES!! new slogan INVESTIGATE PODESTAGATE (edit there are valid arguments for not rebranding, but PR is absolutely a consideration. Our job is not to 'crack the case' so much because we aren't the legal establishment so to what end those efforts? - our job is to fan the billowing plumes of smoke into the publics face to the point where the legal / policing establishment has no option but to 'crack the case' )

it´s Paedogate. Not Pedogate.

PR is used because PR works. If we don't react to their tactics of slandering our ways of communications we have already lost.

Pedogate

You fuckers tried this tactic with GamerGate, too.

Fuck off.

Pedogate is fine.

I use #pizzagate and #PedoFiles ..... Get it? It's like pedophiles..... But clever

Rebranding the name would only hurt the movement. There hasn't been any real smearing, any attempt to try to silence us has only backfired so far. Milo is doing a show dedicated to Pizzagate now due to all this BS on the news today. Keep the train going.