When I first saw David, he was discussing bitcoin on the JRE. It was a great episode! I feel Joe has a tendency to play devil's advocate to the point his skepticism informs his opinion more than objective truth - regardless he is an intelligent (though perhaps a bit scatter-brained) and kind hearted person. He has children! Most importantly he has a vast, largely educated viewership that needs to be informed appropriately on this subject. David is the only person I know uniquely qualified to represent our cause to his audience.
Please, if you agree, petition Daves youtube videos with me urging him to contact Joe. He monitors his comments, we have a voice. Thanks for all you're doing everyone. Keep pushing.
▼ hafen
OP I found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/4ly8yb/david_seaman_ranting_on_about_the_johnny_depp/d3rmam9/?context=3
I would love to see him go on again, but he said that he doesn't want to return as a guest. Could change his mind, dunno. :(
▼ witch_doctor1
I like Rogan and regularly listen to him. I like Callen, too...I agree his dismissive attitude was weird and I can only think of two plausible answers. 1) The most likely answer is that he has a network TV show going right now and the quickest way not to have a paycheck would be to back pizzagate. 2) He knows that pizzagate is real.
▼ joey4track
Nice analysis on Callen, you hit the nail on the head. He's smart enough but like you said comes off a little desperate and a bit tryhard which ends up feeling ingenuine(screw you google spell check this is a word at this point!) Eddie has always seemed cool to me. I wonder what Joey Santiago would have say, lol.
▼ joey4track
There certainly was no doubt that Eddie was %100 convinced in my opinion. I don't know what the fuck was up with Brian Callen. I never really cared for him that much anyway tbh but he really turned me off during that podcast.
▼ scanspeak
Another option would be Milo who has been researching it, when the time is right.
▼ LydianBlue
Yeah, his cryptic qualification of 'ill talk about it, but not yet' really piqued my curiousity
▼ scanspeak
That's very interesting. His instant dismissal of Pizzagate is bizarre for someone who considers himself an information junkie.
▼ LydianBlue
Man quality post. A lot of interesting conjecture here. I guess a big question for us, as well as most other political forums is 'what exactly IS Trump going to do?'. And to my mind, hes been such a wildcard the simple answer is i have no clue. What i think we can bet on, and without putting words in your mouth, what i think you were saying, is Trumps forthcoming policies lie at the intersection of that which is most profitable to him (by way of power/influence gained, and personal economic benefit) and prevailing public opinion (the man is a unabashed populist, making him to my mind, perhaps somewhat ironically, the most democratic president, perhaps politician, in modern history).
All that being said, all we can do is contribute to the meme machine and work some sweet Kek magic on the heads of the ruling political elites. Peace and love brother, keep being woke
▼ scanspeak
Joe Rogan has daughters so he should particularly interested in Pizzagate though apparently it's to much for him to stomach. However he did say in a recent podcast that he would get into it more once the dust had settled.
I was hoping that the Fighter and The Kid woud have a debate on it but Brendan has no idea.
▼ joey4track
I used to listen to the JRE all the time but I just got so sick of Brian. He added nothing and constantly took away from the show imo. Is he not on the show anymore? I would go back to the JRE if I knew Redban didn't have a mic.
▼ LydianBlue
Yeah man, he only returns as a rare featured guest. I dont know man, i was sometimes a fan of his puerile, crass humor. Particularly when itd rustle joes jimmies. Like joe would get all holier than thou when brian would ham it up and id think 'dude! Youre not exactly the fucking height of intellectualism joe,' at least brian isnt putting on airs.
▼ joey4track
That is very true and I guess I can respect him for that. That being said, he was almost like the human version of the Fleshlight- Both were with the show from the beginning but eventually had to be dropped because it brought the show down and prevented it form being more. If that makes sense, lol. But I will get back to the JRE. If he dismisses pizzagate though, I may not be able to listen to him. This issue has really become a litmus test or barometer for me tbh.
▼ LydianBlue
Lol well said. Clever and apt simile with the fleshlight. And also, i agree concerning joes stance on this issue. Man i have dismissed every conspiracy theory ive even encountered. Pizzagate is something different. We're doing good work here, and those who oppose us are more than just wrong.
▼ joey4track
I have asked him in the comments of his YT vids and on Twitter and he hasn't responded but I first heard DS on JRE during the 08 elections and he was mostly talking about Ron Paul. He needs to go on the show and inform that fanbase, it would definitely help the cause I believe. I've also Tweeted Joe and he did not respond. I know how Joe can be about stuff but I do believe if he was presented with the facts he would speak out against it.
▼ LydianBlue
Brother thank you so much for joining me, being proactive and trying to make this happen. I agree about Joe, i have faith. Thanks again for putting in the leg work
▼ redditsuckz
So (((David Seaman))) is "legit" because he got fired from a shill news organization that he worked in for years?...
"Seaman's Huffington Post profile page states that he has appeared as "a guest on CNN Headline News, BBC World Service, FOX News, ABC News Digital, Coast to Coast, RT America, Young Turks, and elsewhere."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Seaman_%28journalist%29
He looks like a media darling and "controlled opposition"...but I guess they dont like him now cause he wrote one mean article about Hillary...:^(
▼ Melitica
Slide
▼ Dokken
I literally just watched his last video and said the same damn thing! He just had my new hero, Jordan Peterson, on. Gotta love Podcasts that do not hinder free speech. Oh no! Are podcasts fake news now too?!
▼ Poot_McGarvey
+1 on Jordan Peterson. Love that guy.
So glad he is getting notoriety. I've been following him for years. Read his massive book and everything.
IMO his views on humanities capacities for evil are relevant to pizzagate. His view brought me some much needed realism and inspiration during a sort of existential crisis.
▼ LydianBlue
Amen brother, one of the best episodes in a long time
▼ Schade
Joe must get tons of requests daily for people to be on his Podcast. Assuming David is up for it (he may not be), I think the best thing we could do to make this happen would be to try and crowdfund his plane ticket/accommodation.
▼ joey4track
Too bad Bill Hicks isn't alive. He would probably have a podcast and would have been talking about PizzaGate weeks ago..
▼ Schade
true dat.
▼ Schade
Good point!
▼ redditsuckz
lol...your account looks like a "sleeper account"...10 comments in 1.5 years?...and 9 comments in the last week...ok...
▼ Schade
Apparently they had a bit of a falling out. Also, David Seaman now lives in Colorado, not LA. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-seaman/what-happened-to-bitcoin_b_11410280.html Joe has mentioned Pizzagate twice to my recollection now, so I think it's fair to say he's aware and intrigued.
▼ LydianBlue
Great contribution man! I had no idea that is so incredibly unfortunate. Kind of leaves this campaign to reconnect them dead in the water. And wtf with Redband badmouthing him. Very very disappointing
▼ Schade
I don't think it's necessarily 'dead in the water'. Joe has quite the curiosity. Whenever something happens in the news he always has to talk about it. He's already mentioned Pizzagate twice by name. If we could first ask Seaman if he'd be willing to go on the JRE, and then organize a campaign to get Joe's attention, and maybe even crowdfunding Seaman's airfair -- I think it's doable.
Joe gets 60+ million download a month. I think it would be worth the effort.
▼ LydianBlue
Id like to agree with you friend. I hope to see it happen. I am actually trying to contact david to this point, it would help a ton if others here did the same. Hopefully we can all put aside our egos for a noble cause
▼ Schade
How are you trying to reach out to David-- through Gab?
▼ LydianBlue
Ahh feels a bit limp dick to say, but just through youtube comments tonight. I have no twitter, perhaps tomorrow ill set one up for these purposes.
Ive noticed quite a few of your posts in the forum man, youve got a great perspective. Keep it up, and if theres anything i can do to work with you please reach out. Peace and love, from me to you
▼ Schade
Hey man, at least you're trying! Don't bother with twitter thought, David left twitter for Gab.ai. Right back at cha brother!
▼ LydianBlue
Disappointing representation of this forums lowest common denominator
▼ redditsuckz
(((David Seaman))) worked for (((HuffingtonPost))).
Dont think he is any goyims hero or best suited to be their leader...:^)...
He also said he "doesnt want to talk about Pizzagate anymore"....
▼ chaoticWave
He did an interview yesterday or today with Higherside Chats . It's on their podcast stream but not posted on their website yet.
▼ LydianBlue
Good stuff man ill check this out!)
▼ hafen
Hell. Yes.
▼ VictorDaniels777
David Seaman has been fantastic. Very important voice for independent media.
▼ StillTheSameOld
Personally, I think we shouldn't take the gloves off until 01/20. I think we should open the floodgates when Trump is in.
Until then nothing can happen anyway. Except public recognition.
I would collect and compile (I am) and continue to meme and get the word out, but I think new information should be kept on the DL. I don't want to give anyone any more notice that we're coming after them.
▼ Rigg5
WE NEED TO ROCK THE BOAT ----- NOW. THEY ARE TRYING TO DELETE FREE SPEECH. THERE IS NO TIME.
▼ LydianBlue
All due respect, I've seen this line of reasoning on here before and completely disagree.
The key is 'public recognition', though I believe the concept is more complicated than this phrase intones. All that matters is what the people believe, and the opposition is daily engaged in misrepresenting the truth to warp their perception. We need to fight man. If we hesitate or cede ground the truth may be lost to time
▼ HolyMoly0
Yes. Public awareness is key. Media attention is good, no matter how nasty it gets. In fact, the nastier the better: when the truth comes out, everyone will know who the cowards and liars were.
▼ CJJacobs
Did he ever go on Daily Show? If not, why not? Just curious.
This is a good idea. Start commenting on Joe Rogan's videos to this effect.
▼ srayzie
No they backed out.
▼ acme2011
I believe the Daily Show backed out last time I heard an update from him.
▼ Gorillion
"Hey, can you come on our show to talk about controversial Subject X?"
"Only if I can record everything to make sure you don't misrepresent me or my point of view."
"Ah, yeah....no. We've ah...decided to go with another story."
▼ LydianBlue
Oh, and to answer your questions no he has not been on the Daily Show. Last I heard the producer he was in contact with there was rephrasing the invitation to imply this discussion panel has not been (ie never will be) approved by the people making the final decisions
▼ Gorillion
Ah, they likely got spooked by him. Had hoped for a total lunatic or well-intentioned dummy to step forward and be easy to take advantage of, and discredit through mockery and editing tricks. Likely something tipped them off that their usual tactics wouldn't work in this case.
But even ideologues like the people who populate the production teams of that show must know that they're playing with fire on a subject like this. Enough of them must know the truth to the extent that they understand there is a genuine risk of it all coming to light, and to have come out against it in a dismissive and belittling manner would only harm their reputation, perhaps even fatally.
▼ LydianBlue
Thank you for agreeing! I know some here see Joe as nothing but a shill, but i give him the benefit of the doubt. Been listening for years - hes not always my favorite person but I judge him to be a good man. And his audience needs somebody smarter than Eddie Bravo and Bryan head-up-his-ass Callen presenting our cause