AreWeSure

yeah, I double checked that and deleted my comment. As a nonlaywer I would say it's direct evidence you were in a place, but circumstantial evidence you committed a crime in that space. So it surprised me that fingerprints and even DNA is circumstantial by that standard.

Bulgakov

It's circumstantial in the fact that it's not direct evidence (i.e. Video or witness testimony) of the crime's occurrence just compelling evidence, it's possible to plant fingerprints (frame somebody) and under this circumstance the person would seem insanely guilt but actually innocent, making the fingerprints irrelevant as proof of a crime, merely circumstantial evidence.

Bulgakov

Do a simple simple search on convictions and circumstantial evidence, the more you know

wizlord

1- The russians did it. 2- The russians did it 3- The... Damn it! ohh ohh I know Trump did it! lol....Sorry I couldnt get to 5.

Bulgakov

fingerprints are circumstantial evidence , people are imprisoned CONSTANTLY on circumstantial evidence that is compelling i.e. PizzaGate which has horrific gems Huma's family owning a pizza joint that funds terrorism, Comet PIZZA being a bedrock of fundraising for DC big-hitters (Obama, Clinton & Podesta) and the images of children connected to Comet( that aren't the posters) w/ money in their mouths and being taped down. The band performer telling the crowd that Alefantis is sexually abusing a little boy. Hillary Clinton partnering with Jeffrey Epstein's underage sex slave procurer, Ghisalaine Maxwell (Terra Mar Project and Clinton Foundation). Hillary Clinton's work while secretary of state freeing child trafficker, Laura Silsby (Currently Laura Gayler working with Amber Alert, WTF) from a Haitian prison. Silsby kidnapped 34 Haitian children and tried to open an offshore orphanage with them. These are the tidbits that buildup to a conviction based upon circumstantial evidence. It's too loose to warrant any kind of prosecution, yet. This is why the investigation into PizzaGate has to continue..we are gathering evidence for a probable conviction.

Air_Gate

Slight correction, it was 34 Haitian children. She told border authority they were orphans, none were.

Bulgakov

Ooh my bad, thank you! I'll correct it

PedoHunter69

The MSM seems to focus on the basement and underground child trafficking ring lead by Hillary Clinton and others out of Comit Pizza, so that is likely not true or they wouldnt use that as their debunking point. They avoid the piles of other pedo related evidence. They dont even really deny Alefantis is a pedo or that pedo related has gone on there.

ForrestGumpWasRaped

Even if Pizzagate is completely wrong, it's not Fake News. Fake News is supposedly news that is intentionally false with the motivation to sway people's opinion. It's just outright lies. PIzzagate is based on facts. People can reasonably argue whether our interpretation of the facts is correct, but they are facts nonetheless. There is no dispute that John Podesta received an email about a pizza related map. The only argument is about what that means. THat's why Pizzagate is not fake news, and anyone who uses it as an example of fake news is either ignorant or a shill.

obliviousvoatgoat

I only usually see people asking for more then 3 examples of something when they're false-flagging. Take the high-road and don't resort to reverse Gish Gallops.

Shadybozza

Give me one then

obliviousvoatgoat

I'm not in disagreement with you. I'm just helping you to avoid unnecessarily compromising your own integrity.

Princeofcats

The evidence is overwhelming but circumstantial in virtually all cases. The story loses validity when we start to apply it to specific people, because it looks insane without first discussing the history of child abuse rings.

So the main "Fakeness" of it is simply that the fringe members and shrills sometimes state conclusions without bulletproof evidence, which would seem like zealotry to someone that hasn't done any research, nor even understands the process of critical though.

My advice is to focus on things we know are true. For instance: Jeffery Epstein served 15 months of a 18 month sentence for prostitution with a 14 year old. He owns an island. ...then you go from there. You point out that society as a whole accepts that reality and chooses to ignore it. When ideas are forced on someone they are instantly a hoax.

jangles

-Podesta is the king of secrets. This is why it is all circumstantial. Look up -John Podesta encryption-, he has a legacy.

Princeofcats

I agreed. Podesta is an important piece.

fvckh1m_up

The only thing you need to understand is that the evidence is not circumstantial, it's symptomatic.

Princeofcats

That doesn't change the struggle you're going to have informing someone that doesn't want to know about it. Nor would we benefit by trying to punish the guilty by destroying the justice system.

Anonymous987654321

maybe the whole system needs an overhaul including the justice system?

Princeofcats

Well, absolutely but I don't think you can overthrow a government and justice system at the same time without serious problems...just saying we need to be careful and determined to keep moving forward or the establishment will must use the excess energy to crush us. If that makes sense...I was just called a shrill for a post I made about basic strategy when speaking to normies.

fvckh1m_up

What is justice when you're oppressed by corruption? The answer is vigilance. You have a civil duty and responsibility to respond when there is crime. When authorities don't want to hear you, the problem doesn't cease to exist, nor does your conscience.

Antonius

I can't even give you one.

fvckh1m_up

It's not, you pancake!