Is there any way to find out if there are any registered sex offenders employed at these restaurants? Someone on a Facebook page brought up that there were over 1000 registered sex offenders within a ten mile radius of cpp. I've been thinking about the whole employee situation and perhaps these two restaurants were known as pedo friendly work environments on the down low.
Might be some really good twitter leads from just that. Social groups and stuff. It's never too little, sometimes the big guys gotta deal with the "little" guys. They may look little, but they might not be. One's logo resembles a domino and a ping pong table. Just finetoothing it if it's been glanced through. Little innocuous things don't look so innocent to me any more. I realize why cops are so jaded, especially detectives.
I'd like to say, we can't be DEFINITIVE with this news, but gee, it sure adds to the picture doesn't it.
lol Alefantis claims innocence. If that guy is innocent, HE IS THE DAM UNLUCKIEST GUY IN THE WORLD! Almost everything he says or does leads to a picture of nefarious activity - so unlucky!
I thought they were child's underwear.
Also, people shouldn't forget that the checkered pattern is considered mind programming symbolism. The red check instead of black and white would indicate something - ugh looked it up and red indicates fisting. sick now.
He obviously walks back and forth between Bucks and Comet. This is not unusual for people who own multiple storefronts on the same block. There is truly nothing odd about that whatsoever. You are alleging he does that walking indoors.
Regarding bold claims, I very much believe in the principle of Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. There's a lot of rushing to judgement on here.
When looking up that phrase I came across this "toolkit" to help you from falling into fallacious arguments.
Seek independent confirmation of alleged facts.
Encourage an open debate about the issue and the available evidence.
"In science, there are no authorities. At most, there are experts."
Come up with a variety of competing hypotheses explaining a given outcome. Considering many different explanations will lower the risk of confirmation bias.
Don't get too attached to your own ideas, lest you get reluctant to reject them even in the face of evidence to the contrary.
Quantify whenever possible, allowing for easier comparisons between hypotheses' relative explanatory power.
Every step in an argument must be logically sound; a single weak link can doom the entire chain.
When the evidence is inconclusive, use Occam's Razor to discriminate between hypotheses.
Pay attention to falsifiability. Science does not concern itself with unfalsifiable propositions.
And in fact, the possibility of going from Bucks to Comet via something other than physical connection means the thread title is an unproven assertion.
This was at the start of Comet Ping Pong. It is very believable that this could have happened, not thinking that this would later be found. The MSM has done all they can to keep those who "love CPP" from even seeing what we have found, so it is much easier to not have somebody who visited in 2007 realize that their walking underground from Buck's to CPP is actually relevant.
It's interesting that when Comet first opens in 2006, there's this "access" to Bucks readily available and publicly spoken about, but now? Now there is no access and no basement.
They apparently serve "blood orange" tea.
Cause that sounds appetizing.
Edit: I actually meant to post this link, although the one above also has some good info at beginning. Some later on in video has been seemingly debunked, like the Kline/Besta thing.
PREVIEW THE NEW COMET PIZZA AND HELP SUPPORT EMERGING ARTISTS!!!
Please join area artists and arts supporters for a night of pizza and ping pong, with special guest DJ Ian Svenonius of Weird War, and DJs Yellow Fever.
Admission is free. Proceeds of pizza and drink sales to benefit Transformers 2006/2007 Exhibition Series.
I still maintain Comet has its own basement, but that ONLY people directly involved in the alleged abuse know about its existence. It would make no sense to make it common knowledge, and I doubt the employees that work there have any sort of clue as to what is going on. The same can be said for most of the customers. They go there for pizza and entertainment. Meanwhile, a small underbelly knows about the sordid side of things. Because of this, it's going to make proving there's a basement difficult to do. Yes, there are real estate records, but there's an anomaly with those records that I haven't posted about yet, but maybe I will. But this on its own is huge. Mad props to the OP for catching this.
Both premises have a rear entry into the same car park - they probably had a big outdoor area setup. They are physically seperate buildings, there 1600 square foot of little red fox in between them.
if besta has a entrance to tunnel under, why wouldn't comet?
what is in the gap between the front room and the back room seen in construction pictures? seen as dark gap between back room and staurs up to front of CPP at right of picture. stairs down? broom closet?
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https://archive.is/TS5mj/3a036116a15b0ce17ecd9415d0f8da9be2feae4a/scr.png)
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Because that's a picture of the pig farm they worked on not Comet ( which has its own set of questions ), look at the iron girder slanted roof, bit misplaced for a flat roof 1930's building.
No. That is the rear of comet, details match many other pictures, other threads.
I believe it appears in IG same time as other comet renovations etc.
A pig barn does not have slab floor and same layout as comet.
By the way, notice the folded blue pingpong table against the wall by the door to the Comet parking lot. The beam you protest is fairly typical for such an early to mid 20th C building as a matter of fact. Could also be part of a prior renovation, if not this one. In fact you can see newer looking lighter colored wood blocking between it and the rafters. One more lesson for you, "flat" roofs are rarely flat, or else they leak. Usually in this type of construction they have a parapet incorporating guttering at the edges to give the building the look of a uniform wall height. Typical slope 1:12 or so. Cheers.
At this point only the possibility of disinformation from you versus maybe you didn't think it through, bringing this up to the same level. nothing personal though.
I am always open to being wrong and happy to correct, this is a search for the truth. I have reasonably good evidence based on the instagram photos in that time line and the information gathered on the pig farm they volunteer at that they are one and the same. I have seen nothing to say that's one of the 1930's or 1950's era constructions which constitute all the buildings on conneticut avenue. Please let me know if you have other information
look at the picture again, go over all the threads, look at the locations of doors from other pictures, the brickwork, the topography of the CPP lot, etc. The evidence is in the picture itself. Learn about architecture and construction. Recognize what you see in pictures. Ever been in a livestock barn? Farmhouse? Pole building? equipment garage? Nothing like the picture of CPP you are claiming is from farm. Not a farm building by any stretch of imagination. and putting pigs in there would ruin the pigs and ruin the building.
Still feel stubborn? There is contextual evidence you can learn about also. Maybe you need to dig up an archive of JA's insta before it went private and get the context, the post was about comet and the picture is of comet, don't be stubborn about your point, it's mistaken.
I'm perfectly willing to change my mind, if you can provide something other than your word. Or simply show me part of those buildings that's got the same pitch on the roof pretty straight forward and I don't know 100% it's farm so I am open to new ideas.
It has been pointed out by others here that that type of tile, and definitely the tile in those awful images of children tied to the walls, exactly matches the tiles in those tunnels underneath the area. I mean exactly.
Can someone get this 99luftbalons a Breakthrough! sticker. This is positively amazing. It is direct contradictions like this, that investigators look for in witness statements to know something is up. All of the case I have ever read about, have element like this, where the person of interest puts on a front, and lies about something they would not need to lie about, unless hiding something, and the case is blown wide open. Even if tunnels have been filled in, it will be easy to tell. This is gold! ...have you seen the video on youtube today by pod awful, where they find stairs leading down, at Besta?
And the others, about dupont tunnels? ..Also a Dupont was charged with crimes aginst his own children ,and let off. i am guessing there is a connection there. Joe biden's son, Beau, got Dupont off a major charge somehow. Biden's house, is near comet pizza.
I wouldn't give too much credence to PodAwful, it seems to be a mock/parody channel. The video itself was suspicious too in that it had many cuts and did not show us how they got from A to B.
I agree this is a big breakthrough. It shows how internet searching can really pay off, despite the immense disadvantages of not being able to be on site.
This also may shed light on the so-called secret doors at Comet that people have spoken about in the past. One is just a door leading to the bathroom. But there would have to be a real secret door to the tunnel connecting Comet and Buck's.
I think that it's somewhere in the back room, because it feels so unexplored.
Did you recall that story about the bar tender at the back? I think that he might be a gate keeper...hey! That back room might be an easyspeak. Maybe they have to give the right code phrase and identify themselves, and then be able enter through behind the bar. Then again, the bar is adjacent to the opposite wall that separates CPP and Buck's.
yes, I would love to go there, and lift some nearby manhole covers. there is one out front of comet below the sign. i would practice on some nearby ones first...sadly I live overseas.
"Otherwise, Greenwood has been operating what she calls a “rogue restaurant” named Orange Arrow, which conducts private pop-up-style dinners in random places: church basements, art galleries, a rural Maryland farm. It’s just the sort of pseudo-secret supper club that has become one of the biggest trends in D.C. dining in recent years."
"Greenwood’s operation was among the first in the District to popularize the concept of creating a vibe of super-exclusivity by limiting the circle of people who even knew a chef was serving meals. Initially, Greenwood even tried to keep her own involvement a secret. In a 2010 Washington Post article on the underground dining trend, she is described only as “a James Beard award-nominated chef…who requested anonymity.”
"Greenwood, who declines to divulge her age, was the creative force behind the eponymous Greenwood restaurant, which during the mid-’90s through early ’00s, was a local haute cuisine favorite. The restaurant, originally located downtown, moved to Cleveland Park before eventually settling in Chevy Chase. In 2003, she changed the concept to comfort food, brought in a new partner, and renamed the place Buck’s. Five years later, Greenwood’s efforts earned her a nomination for Best Chef Mid-Atlantic at the prestigious Beard Awards."
My mom found Carole Greenwood. A fairly well-connected chef friend of ours says she won the award that she was nominated for, but that doesn't show up in these articles. He claims it's the most prestigious honor money can buy.
There was a post on GLP by somebody who said they knew Carole and she supposedly quit the business due to "personal reasons" when she walked in on Alefantis fucking her teenage son...this is all speculative but if this place is such a success to afford Alefantis all these other connections and money...why would Carole Greenwood walk away from it so suddenly and unexplained when she was half of the equation?
Whoa. I'd read about "family issues" in a WCP article. There is a comment from "Carole Fan" on this article admonishing the "culture" for how she was treated.
Edit: "Working with artists is always an intense experience and there is always two sides to every story. I happen to know Carole's side and it would make those dining on the new food choke and feel nauseous. I will only say that if they knew what really happened, they like me would no longer dine at either establishment."
Oh man, thats so brutal, think about how Alefantis said she left to persue a bunch of other stuff, but she says she left for urgent family issues....thank you, other people had said they scrubbed the comments having that (in 2009) is interesting to say the least
Wow, this is a good find! It's certainly correct, because you wouldn't tell people to enter Comet through Buck's if you couldn't. It's not as if it could be a typo.
It wouldn't surprise me because these buildings were (according to another Voat thread) built in 1932, during Prohibition. The possibility has to be considered that they were places where illegal alcohol was distilled and sold. A speakeasy could have been connected to the place the alcohol was being made. You'd want to do that through a tunnel.
Washington's premiere speakeasy was located as 1223 Connecticut Avenue. By February 1932, the police had already raided 1,155 speakeasies in Washington. Imagine how many more there must have been that hadn't been raided!
That's fascinating. Higher up in the discussion, I mentioned that the back room bar might be the speakeasy entrance, and that the gate keeper is the bartender.
Because this is before Comet officially opened ("PREVIEW THE NEW COMET PIZZA", and because it's a short walk (30-40 feet?) across the back parking lot from Bucks, it seems most plausible that people were walking through bucks and out the back door to the parking lot entrance of Comet. Maybe the front area was still under construction? I dunno, but you'd need more evidence before you could say this really proves anything.
I see where you are coming from. however this could also be argued another way. This was a preview for insiders, not the public opening, to give them a sense of what was ahead.
Possibly. It is just good evidence that there is a POSSIBLE connection, which is not even a major requirement that the gist of what we have found is true. It does not hang on tunnels...just a theory by some.
I don't think it's the Little Red Fox in-between, is it? I thought it was the construction company. I'll check the street views when I get a free minute.
red fox has a flower symbol, that was brought up ages ago. it is like the flower on bidens friendship bracelet, a bit. it is in the stonework at the front where the sign is. there is more about red fox, that does not bode well. it was one of the first things that i was convinced by, in looking into this...
Red Fox owned by longtime speechwriter of Hillary Clinton- female, married. You can look that up probably on here someone did all the ownership research.
▼ quantokitty
Not understanding the comment. I'm seeing this n my Comment Replies section and not the thread.
▼ Truthseeker77
Is there any way to find out if there are any registered sex offenders employed at these restaurants? Someone on a Facebook page brought up that there were over 1000 registered sex offenders within a ten mile radius of cpp. I've been thinking about the whole employee situation and perhaps these two restaurants were known as pedo friendly work environments on the down low.
▼ alliecapone
Might be some really good twitter leads from just that. Social groups and stuff. It's never too little, sometimes the big guys gotta deal with the "little" guys. They may look little, but they might not be. One's logo resembles a domino and a ping pong table. Just finetoothing it if it's been glanced through. Little innocuous things don't look so innocent to me any more. I realize why cops are so jaded, especially detectives.
▼ VieBleu
I'd like to say, we can't be DEFINITIVE with this news, but gee, it sure adds to the picture doesn't it.
lol Alefantis claims innocence. If that guy is innocent, HE IS THE DAM UNLUCKIEST GUY IN THE WORLD! Almost everything he says or does leads to a picture of nefarious activity - so unlucky!
▼ VieBleu
I thought they were child's underwear. Also, people shouldn't forget that the checkered pattern is considered mind programming symbolism. The red check instead of black and white would indicate something - ugh looked it up and red indicates fisting. sick now.
▼ VieBleu
Honesty, this could be big.
Such a great catch.
▼ Wage_Slave217
Archive.is !!! paste the URL, thankfully someone already archived this, but it's best to archive in the description. https://archive.is/nTyt9
▼ Mrs_Ogynist01
I am digging into the property records and just ran across this: https://sli.mg/lRMeZs
"Lot 5 in Square 1986 in the subdivision made by Blumenthal and Parsons " Could this be Hillary's BFF Syndey Blumenthal? (Lot 5 is Red Fox)
EDIT: I think it may have been a woman named Ethel Blumenthal
▼ VieBleu
Do you have any access to the kind of records that would show inspection dates for when construction was completed before opening?
▼ Mrs_Ogynist01
I went to this site https://gov.propertyinfo.com/DC-Washington/
You have to set up an account. I don't see where you you search permits tho
▼ VieBleu
thanks I'll save the info tho. I'm building a "Skillz Class" page https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1461382
▼ Stukov
Has anyone Archived this yet? I feel like this blogspot will be changes ASAP.
▼ AreWeSure
He obviously walks back and forth between Bucks and Comet. This is not unusual for people who own multiple storefronts on the same block. There is truly nothing odd about that whatsoever. You are alleging he does that walking indoors.
▼ AreWeSure
Regarding bold claims, I very much believe in the principle of Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. There's a lot of rushing to judgement on here.
▼ AreWeSure
When looking up that phrase I came across this "toolkit" to help you from falling into fallacious arguments.
▼ ZalesMcMuffin
OK where's a layout of the buildings on this block? (I shoulda saved that when I saw it earlier.) I've got a couple basic hypotheses to check out.
▼ alanna
Good find!
▼ AreWeSure
And in fact, the possibility of going from Bucks to Comet via something other than physical connection means the thread title is an unproven assertion.
▼ looking4truth
First of all archive it. Second, you genius mfucker nice find.
▼ reasonedandinformed
This was at the start of Comet Ping Pong. It is very believable that this could have happened, not thinking that this would later be found. The MSM has done all they can to keep those who "love CPP" from even seeing what we have found, so it is much easier to not have somebody who visited in 2007 realize that their walking underground from Buck's to CPP is actually relevant.
▼ quantokitty
Here's another posting of the same info to validate what is being said.
http://forartandajob.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_archive.html
It's interesting that when Comet first opens in 2006, there's this "access" to Bucks readily available and publicly spoken about, but now? Now there is no access and no basement.
▼ VieBleu
yes
▼ crazimal
"oh go stick a candle in your pink donut, you must be kidding!"
NOT
imagery is seriously too wack for its own good.
▼ Freemasonsrus
Here's a good explanation of the block and specifically of Little Red Fox https://youtu.be/GsWVkKiDzoA
They apparently serve "blood orange" tea. Cause that sounds appetizing.
Edit: I actually meant to post this link, although the one above also has some good info at beginning. Some later on in video has been seemingly debunked, like the Kline/Besta thing.
https://youtu.be/hDGQLxJ_lhw
▼ crazimal
I'd try it. blood oranges are delicious. just sayin.
▼ Freemasonsrus
Haha! They may be. Drink may be awesome too.
▼ HarveyKlinger
Nothing much to add here except GREAT FIND, 99.
▼ quantokitty
Stellar!
So after all the speculation, there it is! They'd have to be connected, but how?
▼ Sephel
https://artzeeeye.blogspot.com/2006/06/transformer.html
▼ JSchoolDropout
Good sleuthing!
▼ YouaremeandIamyou
Who downvoated this? This is the Mona Lisa of finds!
▼ thezodiac
"He doesn't even have a basement, this is totally FAKE NEWS". LOL MSM you're fucked now!
▼ ALDO_NOVA
fake news - debunked
great find
▼ SIMONBARROW
That's why I was thinking. Alefantis's tomatoes are as accessible as if Comet had its own basement.
▼ quantokitty
I still maintain Comet has its own basement, but that ONLY people directly involved in the alleged abuse know about its existence. It would make no sense to make it common knowledge, and I doubt the employees that work there have any sort of clue as to what is going on. The same can be said for most of the customers. They go there for pizza and entertainment. Meanwhile, a small underbelly knows about the sordid side of things. Because of this, it's going to make proving there's a basement difficult to do. Yes, there are real estate records, but there's an anomaly with those records that I haven't posted about yet, but maybe I will. But this on its own is huge. Mad props to the OP for catching this.
▼ drunk420
::posts in potentially EPIC thread::
▼ LookingGlass
Well, this is certainly interesting.... Thank you for this find, OP.
▼ LostandFound
Both premises have a rear entry into the same car park - they probably had a big outdoor area setup. They are physically seperate buildings, there 1600 square foot of little red fox in between them.
▼ crazimal
if besta has a entrance to tunnel under, why wouldn't comet? what is in the gap between the front room and the back room seen in construction pictures? seen as dark gap between back room and staurs up to front of CPP at right of picture. stairs down? broom closet? ( https://archive.is/TS5mj/3a036116a15b0ce17ecd9415d0f8da9be2feae4a/scr.png) )
▼ LostandFound
Because that's a picture of the pig farm they worked on not Comet ( which has its own set of questions ), look at the iron girder slanted roof, bit misplaced for a flat roof 1930's building.
▼ crazimal
No. That is the rear of comet, details match many other pictures, other threads. I believe it appears in IG same time as other comet renovations etc. A pig barn does not have slab floor and same layout as comet. By the way, notice the folded blue pingpong table against the wall by the door to the Comet parking lot. The beam you protest is fairly typical for such an early to mid 20th C building as a matter of fact. Could also be part of a prior renovation, if not this one. In fact you can see newer looking lighter colored wood blocking between it and the rafters. One more lesson for you, "flat" roofs are rarely flat, or else they leak. Usually in this type of construction they have a parapet incorporating guttering at the edges to give the building the look of a uniform wall height. Typical slope 1:12 or so. Cheers.
▼ crazimal
@ lostand..
At this point only the possibility of disinformation from you versus maybe you didn't think it through, bringing this up to the same level. nothing personal though.
▼ LostandFound
? any particular point you want to discuss
▼ crazimal
on second though maybe you should delete your assertion it's the pig farm, since it's not.... no offense.
▼ LostandFound
I am always open to being wrong and happy to correct, this is a search for the truth. I have reasonably good evidence based on the instagram photos in that time line and the information gathered on the pig farm they volunteer at that they are one and the same. I have seen nothing to say that's one of the 1930's or 1950's era constructions which constitute all the buildings on conneticut avenue. Please let me know if you have other information
▼ crazimal
look at the picture again, go over all the threads, look at the locations of doors from other pictures, the brickwork, the topography of the CPP lot, etc. The evidence is in the picture itself. Learn about architecture and construction. Recognize what you see in pictures. Ever been in a livestock barn? Farmhouse? Pole building? equipment garage? Nothing like the picture of CPP you are claiming is from farm. Not a farm building by any stretch of imagination. and putting pigs in there would ruin the pigs and ruin the building.
Still feel stubborn? There is contextual evidence you can learn about also. Maybe you need to dig up an archive of JA's insta before it went private and get the context, the post was about comet and the picture is of comet, don't be stubborn about your point, it's mistaken.
▼ LostandFound
I'm perfectly willing to change my mind, if you can provide something other than your word. Or simply show me part of those buildings that's got the same pitch on the roof pretty straight forward and I don't know 100% it's farm so I am open to new ideas.
▼ Infopractical
Did you notice that Victoria Reis https://www.instagram.com/victorialynnreis/ is a cofounder of Transformer? That doesn't mean much in itself, but it keeps the circle tight.
▼ 99luftballons
I dug a little further into the Transformer BOD and found an image by Vesna Pavlovic that contains tiles similar to the Biljana Djurdjevic images:
https://sli.mg/rw7V0I
▼ VieBleu
It has been pointed out by others here that that type of tile, and definitely the tile in those awful images of children tied to the walls, exactly matches the tiles in those tunnels underneath the area. I mean exactly.
▼ Selnee
I don't know how to do it but has anybody archived this?
▼ Selnee
nevermind just saw someone did it already!
▼ Selnee
Nice find!
▼ amCassandraAMA
Somehow Im proud of our autistic honey badgers
▼ pizzahthrowaway
Good find! I kept thinking that Art Gallery connection would pay off sooner or later!
Upvote this heavy guys, I think this constitutes a new lead/line of questioning.
▼ YouaremeandIamyou
Can someone get this 99luftbalons a Breakthrough! sticker. This is positively amazing. It is direct contradictions like this, that investigators look for in witness statements to know something is up. All of the case I have ever read about, have element like this, where the person of interest puts on a front, and lies about something they would not need to lie about, unless hiding something, and the case is blown wide open. Even if tunnels have been filled in, it will be easy to tell. This is gold! ...have you seen the video on youtube today by pod awful, where they find stairs leading down, at Besta? And the others, about dupont tunnels? ..Also a Dupont was charged with crimes aginst his own children ,and let off. i am guessing there is a connection there. Joe biden's son, Beau, got Dupont off a major charge somehow. Biden's house, is near comet pizza.
▼ Sephel
I wouldn't give too much credence to PodAwful, it seems to be a mock/parody channel. The video itself was suspicious too in that it had many cuts and did not show us how they got from A to B.
▼ YouaremeandIamyou
Ok. thanks! I have not seen their work before. The stairs going down at besta looked unmistakably real to me. it will be good to get confirmation.
▼ SIMONBARROW
I agree this is a big breakthrough. It shows how internet searching can really pay off, despite the immense disadvantages of not being able to be on site.
This also may shed light on the so-called secret doors at Comet that people have spoken about in the past. One is just a door leading to the bathroom. But there would have to be a real secret door to the tunnel connecting Comet and Buck's.
▼ Investigate1999
I think that it's somewhere in the back room, because it feels so unexplored.
Did you recall that story about the bar tender at the back? I think that he might be a gate keeper...hey! That back room might be an easyspeak. Maybe they have to give the right code phrase and identify themselves, and then be able enter through behind the bar. Then again, the bar is adjacent to the opposite wall that separates CPP and Buck's.
Would somebody confirm, please?
▼ YouaremeandIamyou
yes, I would love to go there, and lift some nearby manhole covers. there is one out front of comet below the sign. i would practice on some nearby ones first...sadly I live overseas.
▼ srayzie
Good job!
▼ MrWaldeck
Or they used the back doors.
▼ fartyshorts
And the lady in the "special thanks" rescued a 3-year-old from drowning: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-custody-suspicion-murdering-daughter-4057601
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/food/blog/13128890/carole-greenwood-pops-up-the-nomadic-dinner-party-pioneer-is-itching-to-get-back-in-a-real-kitchen
"Otherwise, Greenwood has been operating what she calls a “rogue restaurant” named Orange Arrow, which conducts private pop-up-style dinners in random places: church basements, art galleries, a rural Maryland farm. It’s just the sort of pseudo-secret supper club that has become one of the biggest trends in D.C. dining in recent years."
"Greenwood’s operation was among the first in the District to popularize the concept of creating a vibe of super-exclusivity by limiting the circle of people who even knew a chef was serving meals. Initially, Greenwood even tried to keep her own involvement a secret. In a 2010 Washington Post article on the underground dining trend, she is described only as “a James Beard award-nominated chef…who requested anonymity.”
"Greenwood, who declines to divulge her age, was the creative force behind the eponymous Greenwood restaurant, which during the mid-’90s through early ’00s, was a local haute cuisine favorite. The restaurant, originally located downtown, moved to Cleveland Park before eventually settling in Chevy Chase. In 2003, she changed the concept to comfort food, brought in a new partner, and renamed the place Buck’s. Five years later, Greenwood’s efforts earned her a nomination for Best Chef Mid-Atlantic at the prestigious Beard Awards."
Her Twitter: https://twitter.com/carolegreenwood
Dig!
▼ 99luftballons
My mom found Carole Greenwood. A fairly well-connected chef friend of ours says she won the award that she was nominated for, but that doesn't show up in these articles. He claims it's the most prestigious honor money can buy.
▼ pizzahthrowaway
There was a post on GLP by somebody who said they knew Carole and she supposedly quit the business due to "personal reasons" when she walked in on Alefantis fucking her teenage son...this is all speculative but if this place is such a success to afford Alefantis all these other connections and money...why would Carole Greenwood walk away from it so suddenly and unexplained when she was half of the equation?
▼ 99luftballons
Whoa. I'd read about "family issues" in a WCP article. There is a comment from "Carole Fan" on this article admonishing the "culture" for how she was treated.
Edit: "Working with artists is always an intense experience and there is always two sides to every story. I happen to know Carole's side and it would make those dining on the new food choke and feel nauseous. I will only say that if they knew what really happened, they like me would no longer dine at either establishment."
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/food/article/13037971/how-are-bucks-fishing-camping-and-comet-ping-pong-faring
▼ SIMONBARROW
This is a big find in itself that deserves a separate thread!!!
The article dates from 2009, so about 2 or 3 years after Comet opened.
▼ pizzahthrowaway
Not seeing that comment on mine? Can you screen shot it? A partial corroboration of this, that far back, could be juicy.
▼ 99luftballons
https://sli.mg/8z8bwe
▼ pizzahthrowaway
Oh man, thats so brutal, think about how Alefantis said she left to persue a bunch of other stuff, but she says she left for urgent family issues....thank you, other people had said they scrubbed the comments having that (in 2009) is interesting to say the least
▼ YouaremeandIamyou
I knew they were. that explains why he refers to them as though they are one place , when talking about the storage of tomatoes.
▼ VieBleu
good point.
▼ SIMONBARROW
Wow, this is a good find! It's certainly correct, because you wouldn't tell people to enter Comet through Buck's if you couldn't. It's not as if it could be a typo.
It wouldn't surprise me because these buildings were (according to another Voat thread) built in 1932, during Prohibition. The possibility has to be considered that they were places where illegal alcohol was distilled and sold. A speakeasy could have been connected to the place the alcohol was being made. You'd want to do that through a tunnel.
Washington's premiere speakeasy was located as 1223 Connecticut Avenue. By February 1932, the police had already raided 1,155 speakeasies in Washington. Imagine how many more there must have been that hadn't been raided!
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▼ Investigate1999
That's fascinating. Higher up in the discussion, I mentioned that the back room bar might be the speakeasy entrance, and that the gate keeper is the bartender.
▼ VieBleu
great minds!
▼ reasonedandinformed
Excellent find!
▼ pizzathrowaway
Because this is before Comet officially opened ("PREVIEW THE NEW COMET PIZZA", and because it's a short walk (30-40 feet?) across the back parking lot from Bucks, it seems most plausible that people were walking through bucks and out the back door to the parking lot entrance of Comet. Maybe the front area was still under construction? I dunno, but you'd need more evidence before you could say this really proves anything.
▼ VieBleu
I see where you are coming from. however this could also be argued another way. This was a preview for insiders, not the public opening, to give them a sense of what was ahead.
▼ reasonedandinformed
Possibly. It is just good evidence that there is a POSSIBLE connection, which is not even a major requirement that the gist of what we have found is true. It does not hang on tunnels...just a theory by some.
▼ 99luftballons
Thank you!
▼ fvckh1m_up
saved for later.
▼ The_Awakened_One
Here's a link to a screenshot http://prntscr.com/dh7gw7
▼ 99luftballons
Thanks! This is good to have. It didn't all fit on mobile screen.
▼ Beaucephus
that Red Fox place is in between them. Weird.
▼ SIMONBARROW
I don't think it's the Little Red Fox in-between, is it? I thought it was the construction company. I'll check the street views when I get a free minute.
▼ dindonufin
nope... http://image.prntscr.com/image/a32ce88aea20479cb78fa8786cc5e8e8.png
▼ SIMONBARROW
OK, thanks. I must have seen a photo showing Comet going up the corner instead of down.
▼ dindonufin
yeah the construction company is on the other side
▼ YouaremeandIamyou
red fox has a flower symbol, that was brought up ages ago. it is like the flower on bidens friendship bracelet, a bit. it is in the stonework at the front where the sign is. there is more about red fox, that does not bode well. it was one of the first things that i was convinced by, in looking into this...
▼ VieBleu
Red Fox owned by longtime speechwriter of Hillary Clinton- female, married. You can look that up probably on here someone did all the ownership research.
▼ Stukov
You know who got the Dupont pedophile off right? Beau Biden.
▼ dindonufin
I cant find any high res images, but that flower looks like one of the infinite variations of the flower of life.
▼ reasonedandinformed
Not weird if an underground connection...a good question for the MSM to ask in one of their hard-hitting interviews. #REALNEWS is here
▼ 99luftballons
Weird, indeed. I don't know what was there in 2006; perhaps worth looking into. But there it is. I guess they really are connected in some way.
▼ peteczar
from memory it was some sort of "market" - i'll try find it again. Just set a date range in google and search for the address, you'll find it.
EDIT: "Marvelous Market" - here's the news about it: http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2006/10/23/story13.html
▼ 99luftballons
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15838 There's a Seth Shapiro in this email. Wonder if it's the same one. Time to dig.
Edit: Dead end on that. He appears to work at Georgetown and DOJ.