Lynnwiod

I could do it on Spokeo, that's the paid account I have. I actually think I could be of more use by compiling all the information into a web site. I love VOAT and want to support VOAT but the information is spread out over so many threads it's difficult to find your way around, and get back to places.. What I am saying is, if this was MY PROJECT, and I was in charge, I would immediately organize all the information.

It would be a substantial amount of time though, and I have a work project to finish first --a few days. I also don't want to go to the trouble if no one wants it all compiled and organized, so my question to the community is, do you want the information organized?

IF SO, I will create the architecture and an overview on the home page, and create sections, then start taking input for content order for clarity, etc.

EDIT TO ADD: I would use Google Sites so as to easily be able to give editing access by email address to specific pages, so it does not have to be all "My" project.

The advantage to a web site is the information is static, and there is a visible [left] menu to easily navigate the information. I would create sections. No Trolls or Shills. It would be super easy for people to come and grab information to disburse.

================================================

What do you all say? Is there a way to do a poll? I am so new here I don't even know how to start a post to ask the group. I can only reply so far...

GrislyAddams

Got it. Sorry for derailing.
That is the answer, by the way.

October 1974.

Lynnwiod

The F is a typo. Sometimes people mess up entering their name and then the Bots pick it up and it gets remember as an alternate name when it's just a typo.

Case in point: ME. I signed up late at night in bed and I meant to type Lynnwood, but I typed Lynnwiod instead!

Lynnwiod

---James Alefantis is his real name.

---Achilles Alefantis, Father ?, Lives in New York, Age 71 Born March 1945. Mother: Possible Susan, Age 70, different NY address than Achilles.

---This article / Interview has a LOT of info re Alefantis: http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/ , This is a great start to a "Biography". He mentions old jobs, growing up, schools, and more.

---The Spokeo page has a lot of info as well.

---That article / Interview above, --James says there IS a basement in Comet PP. Do a Control F on the page to see it. He buys 10 tons of organic tomatoes every year, cans them, and stores them in the basement at CPP.

---Has anyone started a web site to house and organize all the info? It would be a lot easier.

Stukov

Well I think all 21 are from the past week or so. I made an account forever ago and didn't really have a reason to talk about something here till they shut down pizzagate on reddit.

RumplestiltskiaAT

There is a searchable database for the court system if this helps in any way.

Here is the D.C. Link but you can also search maryland and virginia.

Just google <state name> Judiciary Case Search.

http://www.dccourts.gov/internet/CCO.jsf

RumplestiltskiaAT

Someone did reply with an Obituary for Achilles Alefanetis so this cannot be the James Alefanetis we know from CPP. Interesting that James Alefantis middle initial is 'A' though.

GrislyAddams

My post is only at the top because people upvoated it. When I wrote it it was in the context of other people discussing the same thing.

I went to your link. It appears to be the OP of this thread.
The OP which does not, in fact have anything useful to say, but rather, asks us to find the information.

How about a link to the post you believe to be legit info?

reasonedandinformed

I was making a joke. My gosh.

pizzahthrowaway

I had been wanting to establish some clear history links (schools this guy went to) as well so they could be checked out.

I've battled the shilling since they showed up in force after the false flag, have an upvote.

remedy4reality

I offered a sensible and enlightening theory ( prefaced with 'going out on a limb' ) of why Alafante lacks a credible history and used Gannon as an example. In no way was I attempting to derail the conversation. I would guess that his background gets very muddled prior to his opening of Comet and I am currently searching for his activities prior to that. If this pedo ring is real, and I believe 100% that it is, it's roots lie in the Franklin Scandal and the methods that were employed to transform victims into pliable accomplices. I am not a shill. I am not here to stir shit up.

charmeuse

That is not an unreasonable theory. I am thinking the whole Alefantis family might be CIA. People do not realize how deeply the agency has infiltrated every level of American society. No one has any idea exactly how many people are employed by them, and they fund themselves any way they see fit, with laughable 'oversight' (none).

remedy4reality

He is CIA... and so is John Podesta

wizlord

Yes. It's legal. Can you believe this?

remedy4reality

This just in, dipshit: This movement is going nowhere. You clowns are rummaging through the trash at Comet looking for clues while people like me, who have been on board since the Franklin Scandal ( over 30 years ), see things far more clearly. In case you have not noticed, the entire MSM along with the CIA are in the process of undermining this story and the President Elect, no doubt out of fear of the exposure of the largest conspiracy in history. You can flop around micromanaging this site all day long, but this event is accelerating at speeds you obviously cannot comprehend. I have First Amendment rights and I will continue to exercise them.

reasonedandinformed

I personally am in no position to think any such claim is crazy as stuff that I thought was insane keeps turning out to be true. I am sorry that some just will not have an open mind about some ideas that could be very relevant. I have not seen anyone make this specific link to the Franklin Scandal, but that is a plausible possibility. I agree that this thing is far bigger than CPP and am getting very concerned about what comes next as they are cornered.

Investigate1999

I saved it at archive.is for us.

Big_Willy_Wallace

Who is the host? I like him a lot.

Blacksmith21

My theory is that the name was changed 2 or 3 generations to go when the family immigrated from Greece or wherever they came from. It may have been someone's clever idea to again, hide in plain sight. Pedos begat pedos. It's a family affair. Achilles Alefantis = I love children, they are my weak spot.

GodBlessAmerica24_7

Also found this saying JA's birthday is Oct 24 1974. Not sure how accurate it is

https://www.docdroid.net/IRO6ywJ/ancestors-of-james-a-alefantis.pdf.html

GodBlessAmerica24_7

Not sure if this would be of any help or if they have already been put out there but I found these pics with JA, Susan Alefantis and LJ Alefantis. Thought maybe they might help

http://washingtonlife.smugmug.com/keyword/susan%20alefantis/

MaryWolf

James Alefantis went to high school in DC, near comet. He stated that in a video. Look for his educational records....high school year book...etc. Hint: Georgetown Day School. I think he's 41 years old. Also, look into the original owner of the comet sign. The sign was owned by Comet Liquor & Deli.

CrackerJacks

Spend your money you tight git.

h2d

I know for a fact that I saw someone commenting on a website that had initially reported on the comet fiasco, this was old school early days of pizzagate. On twitter, someone who'd written an article defending CPP as an upstanding place and the whole thing as 'fake news' (I wanna say it was in Washington Post or some other garbage page), I believe it was the writers' twitter (may have been the daily beast, actually, I'm going to look thru my browser history to try and find it, will take a whiiiiiile) - but on the twitter feed, and this was before this news had really broke or had anyone who wasn't "in the know" researching it, someone had mentioned to the writer on twitter that "This is so crazy, (Alefantis) went to our high school didn't he?" - some girl saying it to the writer, they both were DC locals. That may help us.

kekistocrat

This pedophilia is a lifelong virus we're dealing with. Once a person is victimized repeatedly, chances are they will grow up to embrace it. I wouldn't be surprised if Alefantis was an orphan and was indoctrinated into this parasitical cult to perpetuate it.

MrWaldeck

Here more family info: Legacy.com

Lynnwiod

I would like to add here, I am a highly trained Internet Researcher, worked for Google as a paid researcher for 4 years. Let me know what you need and if it is available, I will go get it.

Baluga

Who is his family. Is it real. Tentative lead is that Achilles Alefantis is his father, maybe in New York.

Lunari

That looks like the type of mistake that commonly happens when somewhere along the line, something on a person's record (anything from credit / bank / loan / school / legal / public records / etc, etc) is accidentally slightly misspelled. But since all other info ( Birthdate / address / etc.) matches - it recognizes and documents the misspelled version of the name as an 'alternate name'

FoxMcCloud11

Run an advanced search which includes his full name or home address with keyword that would be on tax forms (1099, W2, K1, etc.) - if we're lucky we can get birthdate, social, etc.

Lynnwiod

I edited above to provide a link to the first page, but without a pay account you won't see the info on the second page. I can crop out the PII, but my iPad is messed up and the page crashes when I go to upload images anywhere right now...

popezandy

Or you know, I love weak children

Baluga

Achilles was invincible, the opposite of weak. Except for his heel.

WhatNowFred

Check the archived 8ch.net threads (in the sidebar.) I believe there were images of two documents there showing the Alefantis family coming to America.

Fifthestateknows

I've never seen a post even asking who he really was. Where was he born, who is his family, where he went to school, etc., Unless he was born right into this ring, it is a mystery.

Investigate1999

I think that his sister lives in DC, and she has the same last name. Try plugging her name into those search sites. I can't remember who she is, though.

I looked up the last name, and it seems that only about 30 people in the US have the last name, and all are in the DC area and/or surrounding area. I can't remember my sources, but I encourage you to keep looking. An interesting thing that I discovered is that the last name has very little history to it.

I personally believe that he would be the military equivalent of a high ranking soldier, who isn't an officer. In Christianity terminology, he would be the highest ranking deacon [i.e.: a leader who is not an elder]. In another thread, I mentioned that he is probably in charge of the logistics of the human trafficking, and in charge of setting up the events. I think that when you have logistical skills, then you become a real asset, and it becomes really hard to kill you off.

If I recall correctly, FBI anon said that Hillary only likes to order people around, but has no real leadership skills, so it is reasonable to assume that her orders eventually get passed down to James A, who happens to run a speakeasy called, Comet Ping Pong.

These ideas are just my speculations.

IDONTWANTOTBEHERE

Christopher Achilles was a name that came up when you search property records of comet pingpong.

Fifthestateknows

There is also another thread here linking that name to a Canadian company, I vaguely recall the name as Kids Worldz, something like this, but it's has a FB for kids, allegedly a safe place for them to talk to other kids;however, a parent said his daughter went on there and was contacted quickly for pictures of her legs. Anyone finds the thread....share it here too

GodBlessAmerica24_7

I think this was the thread you are talking about

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1474718

Fifthestateknows

Yup. Good find. I havw trouble finding things here now. Thanks

Ronnilynn31

I looked into that guy with Kidz World quite a bit last night and I couldn't find any connections. They're based out of Vancouver anyway and our public records search is only available in the US from what I've found.

I searched on that guy - Achilles along with other associates on the kidz world site and came up blank.

AFriend

https://www.intelius.com/people-search/James-A-Alefantis/Fairfax-VA

Someone may want to Archive that; I couldn't get it to work.

But it shows a new person of interest, a relative: Darrin Bodner

https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrinbodner

Works for Media Matters...

GumShoe

Also shows that he worked previously at Ping Pong Productions? wtaf

AFriend

I looked into that.

Ping Pong Productions is a foreign exchange program with China.

One of the executives in charge of it is also in charge of Burning Man. Take that for what it's worth.

Investigate1999

The first link didn't work for me.

abortionburger

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5epohd/james_alefantis_used_to_use_a_different_middle

"james a. strand" was a restauranteur (dont feel like looking up spelling) in the resort town of edinborough, pa called "nick's place" coincidentally there is a chain of pizza restaurants called "nick's place" whose websites seem laid out similarly to the other suspect pizza places. i'm likely grasping at straws here, but these days who the fuck knows.

Mrs_Ogynist01

He use to own an art gallery - strand on volta

AFriend

LOOK!

https://www.mylife.com/james-alefantis/e6423190512#reviews-section

James Alefantis Relatives/Associates (2) - Susan Alefantis & Achilles Alefantis (Both from McLean VA) - Looks to be Mother and Father.

They look to have lived in McLean VA for their entire life.

There is a start.

Susan is his mother.

Alefantis & Associates https://www.yelp.com/biz/alefantis-and-associates-mc-lean?adjust_creative=dWJMtmYxpd5N5yoyzSuhtA&utm_campaign=yelp_api&utm_medium=api_v2_search&utm_source=dWJMtmYxpd5N5yoyzSuhtA

Susan is a master at bringing a home together. Classic design in the taste of the homeowner, which is very hard to find. Often designers force their own design on everyone, not with Sue! Here you will find a person who makes your home a masterpiece, YOUR masterpiece. All I can say is Sue is the most gracious of designers, her spaces reflect the residents, and are the most comfortable spaces to live in!

Lynnwiod

Hi I'm new. I have a paid Spokeo account. James Alefantis' birthday is in October 1974. The date can be found in DC's Voter Rolls. I'm in WA State and they are public records here...

Hope this helps

EDIT: Here is the first page: http://www.spokeo.com/James-Alefantis How do you upload here? IPad messing up but I can try it... For the click through, I can crop out the addresses and phone numbers and just show "October 1974" if you want...

laura0714

https://sli.mg/RrL4jO places he's lived, relatives, schools

pizzahthrowaway

Uhh...Yale? This guy went to Yale, is that accurate...?

laura0714

quick google search on James Alifantis yale alumni turns up references to his Yale connection https://sli.mg/CqDVXh

laura0714

I wouldn't doubt it. It's not like he's just a pizza place owner. He's didn't make one of Washington's to 49 most influential people selling pizza. He has construction companies, other restaurants art galleries.ect. Brock of media matters is or was his boyfriend.. He's in all the Washington publications, rubbing elbows with top people.

xeemee

source links and screen-caps would be helpful

Lynnwiod

Screen caps?

xeemee

Screen caps?

screen capture - screen-shot - it's what the 'print screen' button does (or other software such as a graphics editing program)

Baluga

img.sl and archive.is are two websites you should learn.

pizzainvestigator

If we can get to some sort of point of origin on him I think it will tell a lot. Keep in mind if he was a victim and this is his name given, why does his family also have the same last name? (I don't have a source on last names matching but it is what I have heard in comments before) If they have the same last name they would have to be "in" on the whole ring too.

SavingGrace

He clearly travels abroad and therefore must have a US passport and within that surely his real name is contained. Just a thought. Old school records may be another source to check.

RumplestiltskiaAT

Lurker here. I have access to maryland real estate records if it will help. I have no idea how to place screen shots in here btw.

Here's what is on record (legal instrument) in western maryland vacation area.

Some of my information may be wrong but my screen shot is 100% accurate.

https://twitter.com/Rumpelstiltskia/status/804850017366380544?lang=en

Mrs_Ogynist01

I use the "snippet" tool & save to my desktop. Then make a free account at https://i.sli.mg/ - upload the png file made from snippet then post the link here. Let me know if you have any problems & I'll try to explain better.

RumplestiltskiaAT

ok, thank you. I appreciate the tip and i'll use it (or at least try) ext time!

Tnx

xeemee

I have no idea how to place screen shots in here btw.

assuming you know how to capture, just go to postimage.org > upload it > copy and paste the link here (preferably the direct image link)

RumplestiltskiaAT

Ok, Yes, I do know how to capture and crop an image (prt sc). I'll try it next time.

Thanks for the tip, Much appreciated.

xeemee

yes, when you save your image (preferably as a PNG), just upload it to one or more of the sites suggested

take care

CrackerJacks

Is Achilles Alefantis a different person? Or is there a family called Achilles? .....So many names and not enough brain capacity.

RumplestiltskiaAT

I'm not sure. All I can say is this is a legal instrument documenting a $950,000 real estate transaction. About 2 years later they sold it and made over $500,000 profit.

Lunari

Achilles is JA's middle name, and i have read numerous times that people mentioned Achilles is his fathers name (thus why it is JA's middle name - named after his father). I never got around to looking it up to verify quite yet, so don't take my word as fact.

DawnofTruth

............I'm still waiting for Barack Obama's information so, good luck with Alefantis! Washington DC needs a direct strike from something, somewhere, some time soon!!!

wizlord

James Alefantis is probably a pseudonym. As most have already pinpointed and although it is very weak circumstantial evidence, his name does sound like the french rendition of the sentence "I love kids" which would read "J'aime les enfants" (I am french canadian so I got that one right). Did you know that politicians can enter politics under a pseudonym? I'm not even joking. The joke is the system...rigged in the favor of these peso lords who like to kidnap, sacrifice and then eat kids. Like in the old days you know.

laura0714

No, his father's name is Archilles Alifantis. It is his given name. Just coincidence. Like Weiner happened to like to send pic of his hot dog LOL

wizlord

If you are to correct me, can you at least get it right? You say his father's name was Alifantis when all reports we have seen so far tell us that the last name of the comet guy is Alefantis with an 'E'. How can we believe you when you fuck it up in the only word that matters.

laura0714

If you bothered to look at the link, for an example; you would see the name spelled correctly. There are other sources of his father's name as well.

laura0714

ALEFANTIS , god I made a spelling error when when typing. Wasn't writing a book, didn't pass it through editing. Doesn't change point His father had same last name.

zeebo

I agree that it is a pseudonym. Let us not forget about the neighborhood itself, where Comet Ping Pong is located, was designed by a civil engineer by the name of Pierre Charles L'Enfant . His plan was called the L'Enfant Plan . Now, if I was particularly conspiracy minded, I would make the connection that our dear James chose his moniker based not only on the neighborhood's architect, but also how strikingly similar it is to a particular, deviant pastime he may or may not be prone to.

Fateswebb

So James means one who follows..

One who follows a weaknes for love of children.

Baluga

Middle name Achilles, the Trojan warrior whose mother dunked him in Styx the river of hell to give him complete invulnerability, except for his heel, where a wound is fatal. If OP is right, wonder which parts of the myth apply to Jimmy.

spez_dispenser

"Also in Georgetown -- home to galleries like Addison-Ripley, Govinda, District Fine Arts and M.O.C.A. -- a gallery called Strand on Volta started the fall season with transplanted Vancouverite Lucy Hoggs oval and rectangular canvases spinning off the imagery of 18th century capriccio paintings from Venice. This newish gallery wins the Picturesque Prize for its Nantucket-esque exterior and very select Volta Place address in Georgetowns terribly attractive "West Village." The gallery is run by restauranteur James Strand Alefantis , whose Bucks Fishing and Camping in another part of town -- upper Connecticut Avenue near the Birkenstocker-preferred Politics and Prose bookstore/coffeehouse -- is the local art worlds ne-plus-ultra dining spot these days."

http://www.artnet.com/magazine/reviews/lawrence/lawrence11-16-04.asp

spez_dispenser

For the record, I do not believe James A. Strand and James Alefantis are the same guy.

Rather, my theory is simpler: James A. Strand is the name of the teacher who stopped the Parker Middle School Shooting.

If your name was James Alefantis Strand, you'd probably want to change your name to avoid being associated with the shooting.

Ie:

https://www.nap.edu/read/10370/chapter/6#92

Seeming confused, Andrew left the banquet hall and went to a grassy area in back. Nick’s Place owner James A. Strand , who lives next door, heard the gunshots, grabbed his 12-gauge shotgun, and ran over to confront the shooter. He spotted Andrew about 40 yards in back of the building. In his statement to police, Strand said that Andrew pointed the pistol at him. He drew a bead on Andrew with his shotgun and twice yelled for the boy to drop the gun. Andrew hesitated but did not drop his weapon immediately. Strand then heard someone else yell for Andrew to drop the gun, and he did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting

The shooting ended when the owner of Nick's Place, James Strand , intervened and confronted Wurst with his shotgun, ordering him to drop his weapon and later holding him at bay for eleven minutes. Strand later got Wurst on the ground and searched him for weapons, finding a dinner fork in his sock

rangerkozak

This.

From Google translate, "I love children" = "J'aime des enfants".

So the theory to investigate is whether he changed his name at some point, seemingly deciding to dedicate his life to pedophilia. Just a theory, obviously. We need to be careful about distinguishing what we KNOW from what we THINK.

remedy4reality

Ok... So I'm going out on a limb just a bit here.

I believe James Alefantis is cut from the same cloth as Jeff Gannon/Johnny Gosh. That is, his real identity is hidden because he was originally a kidnapping victim of this ring/cult.

Perhaps one will be found, but the lack of a birth record is a huge red flag, especially when we consider his closeness to those in power. Really, how does someone with a completely vague background get near the President of the United States, anyway ?

GrislyAddams

That is an interesting idea

jonnythaiwongy9

Jesus, i'd say your right, I had never thought of it but it makes so much sense...

reasonedandinformed

...or BECOME President of the US??

Baluga

Maybe he really was an emperor's 13-yr-old lover. (Who would that emperor be?) Explains how this low-brow person is so connected to government-class people.

saltminetimes

Reagan? Bush? would tie in with the Franklin case...

jhwh

its just us who get a vague background. agencies will know more for sure.

bikergang_accountant

Reminds me of the Joel Gilbert research on Obama. Likely though any name he has would be a name he's had the majority of his life even if the number of names that could qualify as such can be many.

The problem is only one gets birth records.

LostandFound

There be $hills in them hills. Advice I can offer is that the level of shilling drops of during US night time, you can work around them by posting at odd hours ;) remember they are not as dedicated as we are. Sorry no more info on this but have my upvoat and I have saved this post for later

Hangdempedos

I read earlier he legally changed his middle name.

YungRu

The fact his origin is that difficult to place, sure does makes his name all that odd once translated.

(I realise this can be interpreted as speculation and conjecture)

GrislyAddams

ETA https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1476399/7159514

October 1974

I have gotten immediate down voats on mine too. Like faster than a person could even read what I've said or linked to. At this rate I'll never be able to downvoat anything myself.

safetythrowaway1234

(accurately) call out the shills and reap those CCP's.

Stukov

That's ok I comment a lot and I have only 8 points lol.

DawnofTruth

I'm new here and tried to down vote a few misleading threads and I get an error message of sorts stating I need 100 posts first. So my question is, how long has this forum been in existence? And are the shills by-passing the parameters/guidelines/rules here somehow?

Ever since this election, my world got very scary and ugly very fast. Here I thought 9-11 would be the worse (staged) event in my life but what's going on now makes Sept 11th feel like a day at the beach. I love my life. I hate this world.

DirtyDancingRedShoes

Same here... This is a new forum with lots of info coming in. Some really need to be down voted, but I cannot.

kekistocrat

Just go around and ask for upvotes on a substantial comment. For the most part, people will begin to give upvotes that will enable you to get to 100 and thus downvote. Took me about a week or more, just today did I get my downvoting wings. Have one on me good sir. or m'am...

safetythrowaway1234

v/pizzagate is 28 days old. needing 100 CCP is a site wide requirement before you can downvoat I believe.

Stukov

Pretty sure shills can post anywhere all upvote each other, then downvoat what they want.

trotfox

I love my life. I hate this world.

Well said. To me it sums up the last year or so in the alternative news circles.

Mrs_Ogynist01

I've wondered this too. Why would someone down vote this submission?

CrackerJacks

If people don't like the subject of the sub and it's nothing to debunk....Just leave the sub and don't read it?

Have no idea why the down vote.