MAGABoomer

I was just making fun. Look, Obama is not a smart man. He's a conditioned man, but he's not smart. Neither was Bush. There's a reason those two wouldn't release their grades. Obama was a fucking puppet and smart people are never stupid enough to be puppets. His gay shit made him completely blackmailable, and that's just puredee stupid.

MAGABoomer

He is a horrible speaker without the teleprompter.

EndThePizza

Oh, no, I know. I won't be arguing with you on that. Perhaps I should've said political philosophy instead of party. I've only been paying attention to the party for a few months, and I can tell it's full of a bunch of idiots and shitheads. I like the Chairman, but everything below that seems to be a complete mess.

But, I want to get involved because voters deserve better than what they're getting from democrats or republicans. I believe in (moderate) libertarian philosophy. The party currently may be full of useless jerks, but the only way to change that is to have normal and motivated people join and shape the party going forward. The Republican an Democratic Parties are too big to actually make a difference in, but the Libertarian Party is small enough that a few reasonable people could actually do a lot to make it more successful and less crazy. That's my reasoning at least. I hope it works.

cdglow

What credible and quality individual is out there to hire who doesn't have some level of success in the corporate world?

Serious question. What other avenues are there for Trump to search for some of the best and brightest people who have experience with international negotiations/running a big organization with a high-level of proven success?

You might find a handful of really smart conservatives in academia for example, but would they have the track record of running a big organization and navigating internal politics and dealing with high level negotiations? Where should Trump be looking? I'm not being facetious, I'm seriously wondering.

I totally agree with the skepticism. I also hear the words "big oil" and "Goldman Sachs" and my mind instantly thinks about possible corruption. But Trump has experience hiring tons of people in the business world and if anybody is good at judging character I think it would be him. I'm not saying not to be cautious. If corruption occurs, we need to strongly call it out, I'm just wondering where else should Trump be looking if not the business world?

VictorDaniels777

Is it the Saudi family or Saudi Arabia or Muslims in general? Not quite sure what is being stated here.

faissaloo

Trump is the establishment, he's just a different establishment.

r3dtr1x

Don't forget that Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal bin Abdulaziz al Saud owns a huge chunk of Fox News. He is the second largest shareholder, Rupert Murdoch being the largest. http://bigthink.com/Resurgence/sharia-prince-owns-stake-in-fox-news-parent

ZarkovskyTheHunter

the same Prince that gave Hillary 25,000,000???? WT Hang???? Fox is meant to be Pro Humpy Trumpty

glugglug

Hope you're right but I very much doubt it.

MAGABoomer

Well...ok average. But from where Trump's standing at 180...it's pretty bad.

EllenPaosEgo

Actually Trump is at 156 which puts him in the to 1% IQ wise, if obongo did have 100 IQ that would make him well above average for a nigger. Blacks in America have an average IQ of only 85, it is whites who have an average of 100

pizzagatewillnotdie

“Just listen for a minute, learn a little something. Elections and politicians are in place in order to give Americans the illusion that they have freedom of choice. You don’t really have choice in this country. Good honest hard-working people continue – these are people of modest means – continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about you . . . they don’t give a fuck about you . . . they don’t give a FUCK about you. They don’t care about you at all . . . at all . . . AT ALL. The table has tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream; because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

– GEORGE CARLIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5dBZDSSky0

Atlantean120

Carlin is the man.

oresd

The greatest piece of social commentary I have ever heard.

chrimony

It’s called the American Dream; because you have to be asleep to believe it.

And yet George Carlin was living it. Probably worth millions. He was part of the 1%.

Atlantean120

just because someone is successful, doesn't make them corrupt.

chrimony

just because someone is successful, doesn't make them corrupt.

Never said he was. Just that he lived the dream and became successful.

Sui_Juris

Carlin got in deep shit with the IRS, which forced him to go back on the nightclub circuit. He never made the big $ b/c he never hit it big in film like other comedians.

His treatment from the IRS opened his eyes and massively informed his comedy.

Definitely not part of the 1% (elite).

chrimony

His treatment from the IRS opened his eyes and massively informed his comedy.

" Because of my abuse of drugs, I neglected my business affairs and had large arrears with the IRS, and that took me 18 to 20 years to dig out of," he said. "I did it honorably, and I don't begrudge them. I don't hate paying taxes, and I'm not angry at anyone, because I was complicit in it. But I'll tell you what it did for me: It made me a way better comedian. Because I had to stay out on the road and I couldn't pursue that movie career, which would have gone nowhere, and I became a really good comic and a really good writer."

Definitely not part of the 1% (elite).

" I did something in a previous life that must have been spectacularly good, because I'm getting paid in this life just magnificently, more than one would dare imagine or hope for."

It actually doesn't take that much income to be part of the 1%. I checked, and it's around $450K per yer. Now the elite of the elite, that's a whole 'nother ballgame.

Commonwombat

Yes!!

Whaaaaat

If there's anything we've learned from this, it's that no one should ever put their faith in big government again.

EndThePizza

Welcome to the Libertarian Party

apparatchik1488

Heil Trump!

ZarkovskyTheHunter

Trump Yes! Hitler No! Jesus Christ Yes! Self Righteous No! :)

mysecretidentity

everything you've been told about Hitler and Germany is a lie. "The Greatest Story Never Told" should be mandatory viewing for all people.

Hitler created 6 million jobs in his first 2 years. Let's see Trump do that.

Selnee

Seriously?

garretthates12

I think the very unreasonable downvotes indicate you're more than on to something.

zlomsocz

I just found more old evidence of the saudis buying up dc, https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478189

DarkMath

VoatIsPeople is a known shill. And evidently off his medication by the looks of it. So sad.

PeopleIsVoat

He who farts always speaks first, and the real shill's always call sincere people shills. Boring, fucking hasbara bots R boring.

DarkMath

Ok guy who set up his account 2 hours ago.

Selnee

Something very interesting is going on with him. All morning today cnn reporters were bitching that he was only getting one intelligence briefing per week. He doesn't trust them! I Love It! http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/10/politics/donald-trump-response-russian-hacking/index.html This article is very interesting if you guys haven't heard about this.

Pwning4Ever

I was at a resturaunt a few days ago, CNN happened to be on. They were saying that Trump will still be on his apprentice show, its fake news

PeopleIsVoat

Just 4 words ... to Quote Hillary ...

"RUSSIA ATE MY HOMEWORK"

Another BIG miss and I think we should all cover as pizzagate unfolds is that two days ago HILLARY came out of the darkness to condemn the evil alt-right internet. Not a peep since, I think her ability to gather the MSM is toast. Most likely that qatar,dubai,saudi are already forfeiting her accounts. She must be freaking fucking out.

MAGABoomer

But a complete picture of Trump's finances is unclear, given that he broke with decades of presidential precedent by not releasing his tax returns during the campaign.

this is such bullshit. Trump corporate taxes are separate from his personal. The "fake news" journalists must think we're stupid.

blind_sypher

He's playing them for fools. He made some annoucements about it but publically hes backing off and telling everyone hes not pursuing them anymore. They know hes making moves on them by shit like this and his choice of appointees so far and hes playing it cool but they know its just an act and they keep freaking the fuck out. The public smells their fear and sees this contradiction in behaviour and knows some shits up. All this international fuss over what? Some stupid internet conspiracy? Its a grotesquely disproportionate response to something that supposedly doesnt have a leg to stand on. Let alone interest by the president right? Hes got them doing exactly what he wants them to do. Panic.

EndThePizza

Has any presidential nominee ever released their tax returns? I don't ever recall having heard of it before.

MAGABoomer

I never thought it was much of an issue. Obama and Bush both refused to release their school records because..well, they're both incredibly stupid. Obama's IQ is only 102, and I bet Bush tops out at 97. They effectively hid Obama's three sexual harassment complaints..by other men, the complaints were "settled" and seems to be that would have been slightly more important than tax returns. Public information, and not a peep about it.

Sui_Juris

Would MUCH rather the Clinton Foundation opened it's books than Trump. Wikileaks, we need you more than ever!

PeopleIsVoat

Maga-Bot/voat brigade have put this on TOP. Let's cover the back-story here.

FBIanon said that US-GOV(CLINTON FOUNDATION) was sending children to be fucked in SAUDI, and in turn SAUDI fills the CLINTON-ACCOUNTS in Saudi,Qatar, and Dubai with $5Billion US dollar cash equivalent.

Trump knows the FBI is going to bust this open, SAUDI is so fucked; Trump get's his business & cash out of SAUDI before they can seize.

Well what about the saudi angle?

Remember FOX is 'real news' we have been told by CIA and Obama.

Nine Saudi Company's KAPUT

President-elect Donald Trump shut down some of his companies in the days after the election, including four that appeared connected to a possible Saudi Arabia business venture, according to corporate registrations in Delaware.

News of the move comes days before Trump was expected to describe changes he is making to his businesses to avoid potential conflicts of interest as the U.S. president.

The Trump Organization's general counsel, Alan Garten, described shutting down the four companies as routine "housecleaning," and said there was no existing Trump business venture in Saudi Arabia.

The four Saudi-related companies were among at least nine companies that Trump filed paperwork to dissolve or cancel since the election

"I'm not aware of any deal in Saudi Arabia," Garten told The Associated Press. "I'll go further, there is no deal in Saudi Arabia."

WHAT PART OF NONE? Do U Not understand.

'Last year, Ivanka Trump singled out the Saudi Arabia as potential theme park [ decapitation & child ritual sexual abuse ] hotel locations.'

There is also a misleading bite that Ivanka is going build a suite of hotel's for saudi clients to decapitate people for western tourists, yep U got to love those Fox Readers, they all be NeoCon's and would love decapitations.

reasonedandinformed

Shut up dumb shill, PeopleIsVoat.

MAGABoomer

Why would anyone worry about Trump doing business in Saudi? I'd say 99% of all US multinationals do business in that area of the world. The article seems like concern trolling :D

PeopleIsVoat

FBIanon said that US-GOV run's children to Saudi for political gain.

TRUMP knows that if this becomes public that SAUDI will seize all TRUMP assets as payback. Just like they will seize all CLINTON assets in MENA if CLINTON doesn't shut down PizzaGate.

MAGABoomer

Well he didn't have any assets there in the first place and shut down all the corps set up to manage any business should they make any. I have serious doubts that once Ivana got into researching further, that shit didn't float. Dubai would have been an obvious investment place for Trump, which a lot was made of the source of labor that built his resort. However there is literally nothing built in Dubai that is not built with slave(ish) labor, literally nothing. So making a huge deal of that would have made 99% of all US and other world multinationals look bad. Still it is disappointing he did not have more hands on and be more aware of the labor source. VICE, a Rupert Murdoch Trump hating machine did a video on it. (Only calling Trump out) however I'd bet Murdoch also has concerns in Dubai. So as long as Dubai is run by a Moslome sheik slave labor is going to be a fact of life there. My hope is that one day...Dubai, an entirely artificial environment that by its very existence rapes the environment every, single day...someday...it will be gone.

dindonufin

I'd be all for a full scale invasion of saudi arabia... just sayin'...

solar_flare

Just an all out economic assault against foreign oil would do the trick.

dindonufin

That could work, but I'd rather see those arrogant saudi princ(ess)es hanging from a rope.

Sui_Juris

Easy, just build a slew of Thorium power plants (safe, cleaner nuclear power), and use that sweet, cheap electricity to convert coal to liquid fuel.

Then the House of Saud can drink their damn oil if it's so good.

After a few years of $ starvation, the population there will take care of the hemp neckties for us.

EndThePizza

That means you have to send out Americans to fight them though and risk their lives, too. I'd rather economically annihilate them than kill them + Americans.

dindonufin

Yeah I'm obviously for whatever as long as it ends the tyranny.

Commonwombat

There own people would hang them so it's a win without sacrificing your men.

dindonufin

Actually that would be every bit as satisfying, if not more so.

Commonwombat

It would be even more satisfying if they let the women at them first. ;)

angryindividual

Sorry, but what the fuck? What does that solve?

ris4republican

its not going to be a full scale invasion its going to be a coup for regime change.

The reason is we need to restart our economy and use our energy sector to do it. We need to raise the cost per barrel of oil to make us energy independent. Saudi Arabia has been keeping it low for years to prevent us from becoming energy independent

dindonufin

Take child fuckers out of power? Take down an oppressive dictatorship? End their funding of terrorism?

ThirteenthZodiac

Purging the world of Moslems is never a bad thing.

dindonufin

Not really. The saudis are wahabbists.

quantokitty

Oh, awesome.

I hope this is true.

PeopleIsVoat

U mean U wish you could prove it was false? RIght?

It's TRUE.

I think this is why WASH-PO went ballistic. If Trump unleashes the wolves on SAUDI, he needs to have all biz and cash moved out.

Note his other stuff he assigned to a blind trust, but his SAUDI holdings is dissolved all, why would TRUMP destroy any connection to SAUDI? Unless he knew that he needed to distance himself? His pattern.

Not unlike his Epstein divorce, where he had Epstein banished from mar-de-largo

quantokitty

I wish I could prove it false? Not sure where you're getting that from.

No, I wish it were true. At this point, I'm not believing things until they happen. Like the rumor that the NYPD found evidence on Weiner's computer to put HRC & Co. away. Let's see it happen! I'm so tired of these promises and nothing coming to fruition. The only bright spot is that TPTB are still fighting so hard for him not to make it into The Oval Office. And MSN is going crazy with the propaganda. If he sneezes, it's turned into a smear campaign calling him a racist, xenophobic, misogynist. Meanwhile kids are being raped and tortured.