SHILLS ARE HERE - Brief Guide On How To Handle Them ( pizzagate )

submitted by l4l1lul3l0

Introduction

Okay, we've hit a huge nerve with the elites. The shills are here to stay, this thread will attract a bunch of them but you can see them on the other threads. They are going to multiply and spread discord to try to confuse us. Get this thread to the top and stay vigilant. SIMPLY PUT, OTHER THAN FOR CALLING THEM OUT, DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THEM.

The CTR example

http://sli.mg/ZCCPbB

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/4vm0iu/ctr_admits_plans_go_takeover_rpolitics/

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4w6i9o/information_about_ctr_from_an_exctr_shill/

http://archive.is/3VZ8C

Take a look at some of this stuff. It shows exactly how the shills operate. From it we can predict their responses on our subverse or any other platform.

By the way, CTR just means 'Correct The Record' which was designed during the election to defend the Clinton narrative from counter-narratives (Trump, the alt-right). It was used heavily on reddit and fortunately we've documented their behaviours from it.

If you read the first link then you can ascertain that their prime tactic is to incite an emotional response from us in order to discredit us or make us appear dangerous to the undecided mainstream audience .

This is the key. They will say all sorts of irrelevant but potentially sensitive things in order to take us off-topic and make us engage with them logically . By doing so they will try to control the narrative and damage our efforts.

RESIST THE TEMPTATION TO TAKE THEM HEAD-ON . Don't have a logical discussion. It's not worth your time, you can focus on more productive efforts then have your energy drained by these people.

Voat Example

Can't confirm for certain if this guy is a shill or not. However, his behaviour was definitely suspicious. Lots of off-topic conversations and rhetoric.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1476442/7159768

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1476442

https://voat.co/user/1202017/comments

If you check out all of this conversation and then the rest of the thread and then his comments, you'll get a good idea of what to expect from them.

Note how he will use emotional rhetoric by 'supporting violence' and using angry-mob language. Then out of nowhere, he'll come out with a calm, understanding response apologising for his 'anger'. Then later on he suddenly starts flaming about Jews.

https://sli.mg/tIKF35

This erratic behaviour is designed to destabilise our efforts. They'll pose as 'us' one minute and then say things completely nonsensical, emotional and off-topic, all to confuse you and make you slip up.

As soon as you get frustrated and write back emotionally (in their frame), the MSM will look at it as a weakness and use it in their stack of 'evidence' to discredit us. The investigation will be disrupted. They want us to veer off-course from productive conversation. That is their main agenda.

Avoid this at all costs!

How to deal with them

Check out this guy's comment at the bottom.

https://sli.mg/M8FyBq

That's it. It's as simple as that. Call them out or upvote someone who already has and downvote the shill. DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THEM LOGICALLY OR ACKNOWLEDGE ANY IN/VALIDITY OF THEIR ARGUMENTS!

Pizzagate is NOT a political movement. We have NO ideology. We have NO philosophy. We DO NOT support anyone or anything. If someone says we do then they are a shill, EXPOSE THEM!

REMEMBER:

Our sole purpose is to end the evils of child rape and murder carried out by our elites. That is all. Our scope does not extend to anything else. We just want the kids to be safe and get these disgusting animals jailed.

Conclusion

As long we keep calm and continue our progress, we nullify their effect. Call them out and then ignore them. They're the internet version of mosquitoes, just get under a net and they can't do anything.

Yes, they may buy upvotes but don't let that discourage you. Their money will dry out if their work is ineffective. They can't sustain an attack like this for a long time, it ends up becoming very costly. So, do not fear them!

Their individual goal is to post as much bullshit as possible in order to get paid . Their livelihoods are based on this and if they don't get results quickly then they get fired. Unlike us, they do not operate under a collective vision. They have more to lose out of this than us, which puts us immediately at an advantage.

I'll leave you with a quote from the Art of War by Chinese general, Sun Tzu.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

We know ourselves and we know them. We know what they are capable of and we know what we can do to stop them. Don't let them discourage you, we've come so far already! Keep moving forward!

EDIT: Thanks to /u/Sui_Juris via - Cryptome for this excellent guide on shills

CJJacobs

Awesome post/reminders!

catslovejustice

I thought that guy was suspicious when I read his "crazy" comments. Thanks for pointing this out.

smokratez

Here's your taura.

http://rense.com/general86/talmd.htm

PizzaGateExpress

Guess who largely funds Correct the Record? .... George Soros

Thakiddds

This guy is going to the worst part of hell

fvckh1m_up

you know there's no serious opposition when the enemy can infiltrate without having to crack a single code or password.

IAmBenAffleck

What a bunch of fucking pussies. Can you imagine a shill going to "Career Day" to explain to their daughter's class what they do?

"Hey, everyone! My name is [Dipshit], and I work for George Soros. He pays me to blatantly try and suppress the truth by attempting to make people thing that what I post online is relevant and important, but in the end... I'm actually just a sad, sad man looking for a job. Pays well though. It's tax free with a side of pizza!"

anonymousj

Good advice.

anonymousj

It would help if people new here, i.e. who came from Reddit or other are not automatically suspect when they comment or participate, then are put on a "known shill" list. It is counterproductive. Edited to add: GREAT post.

octopi

Yes. Someone called me a shill because my account was made 1.5 years ago and pizzagate is the first time I'm interacting. With all the investigation~ skills~ in here, can no one put together that 1.5 years ago (june 10) was the time reddit banned a ton of subreddits? So yeah, I made an account that day but never used it until pizzagate got moved to voat. So suspicious.

BestRolledAgent

Yes. Replying to the BOTS just makes them stronger. Ignore. Don't be mislead. Trust nobody. Triple verify everything!

Sui_Juris

You can also feed them BS. Note Microsoft's chatbot that got turned into a Nazi dope fiend in 3 days. GIGO.

Oh yeah, Jesus Pizza Baal etc. fuck you bots

herbsmoke

The jews have a long, long history of being both involved in pedophilia and child sacrifice. This has been a major reason for them being expelled from so many countries. Google sabbatai zevi and yakob frank. The satanism involved in pizzagate is run by khazars aka "those who say they are jews but are not" asthe bible so eloquently puts it. Also a lot of these shills are israeli intelligence operatives. You can tell because they cant grasp english like a native speaker would, and they always flame whenever anything critical of jews is posted.

DuffBeer4Me

Dunno, the OP said something about Jesus so i was suspicious.

Investigate1999

I feel very flattered that they think so highly of us.

Sui_Juris

You are welcome, keep up the good work!

smokratez

Again, I am not asking pizzagate to solve all the problems. All I want is that everything is on the table to be investigated at least.

DuffBeer4Me

Do you think they will ban me? I'm really worried... Just look at my other thread.

DuffBeer4Me

Which thread would that be? What TV show is my username from?

Vastator

I'd downvoat them but I haven't enough Voat comment reputation yet.

Werwer12

Same. I'm almost there though. Only about 20 to go.

DuffBeer4Me

Which guy?

smokratez

I am talking about people wanting to ban talking about it all together. Epstein, lolita express, Clintons. There you go. You want to act like there's nothing there?

DuffBeer4Me

Maybe Jesus can help us.

Sui_Juris

Yep! How else to explain how my recent OP got downvoted? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478604

Jesus, save us!

Chistock

Remember, Correct the Record is David Brock, boyfriend of James Alefantis.

smokratez

This investigation has nothing to do with Jews, period.

Dismissing investigation because it could involve jews seems counterproductive though. They see us as cattle, use our women and children as sex slaves. Harvest us for organs. Want to wipe us all out eventually. You don't want to hurt their feelings?

HarveyKlinger

PROOF OF SHILLS: https://voat.co/user/RicardoFeynman vs https://voat.co/user/RickFeynman

Created just a short time apart and comment on each other's posts.

DuffBeer4Me

Oh yes I think I played dominoes on it one time. Do you like to ride with your airship to work everyday? I do.

HarveyKlinger

He created 2 accounts this morning: RicardoFeynman vs RickFeynman

He uses one to comment and upvote the other. How do we get BOTH banned?

DuffBeer4Me

What is Metal Gear Solid? Is it a game?

DuffBeer4Me

Replying 1 minute after you... you must still be there.

REPLY TO ME OR YOU ARE A SCRIPTED CONVERSATION!!!

ThePuppetShow

Haha holy shit. I think you might be on to something.

DuffBeer4Me

Are you a bot? Reply and prove you are not.

cantsleepawink

It's what happens when they decide to shut something down. And they usually succeed. But this time too many researchers are wise to their tactics and too many people are really, really pissed.

Sui_Juris

Did it I do it right? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478604 If so, my first OP! (Sprains shoulder patting himself on back)

Sui_Juris

OK, ty (I'm a newfag).

Trying to do this, give me a little bit while I figure it out.

cantsleepawink

The shills will fail because I think that there are enough experienced internet researchers on this board who can recognize and deal with them. This post is very useful for new researchers who may be less aware about co-opting tactics.

smokratez

The guy you are calling out for his anti jew talk posted some great information though. What is it with people trying to protect jews in pizzagate?

Sui_Juris

Please oh please steal that and post it everywhere. Also, what's "OP"?

HampdenPItbull

I share this with a poster from Spain earlier today and I believe it applies to all members on Voat.

Thanks for your efforts and believe me when I tell you that most American's are sick of the criminality in governments worldwide as well. Most of the truth seeker's here on VOAT simply want to see a return to the rule of law in our democracy. Sadly, it appears that Voat has been overrun by shills. I am going to share a piece here about who is spreading the whole "fake news" and Russia meme. At this point in America I think it's important we adhere to our Democratic principles and give the properly elected next Administration the ability to finish the investigations that so many worked hard on here on Voat and Reddit. Per the FBI Anon the leaks were from good members of our government who were not in a position to prosecute. Please tell our friends in Spain and Europe that President elect Trump will be inaugurated on 20 January 2017. It's important that ALL begin to refer to Donald as PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP. After President elect Trump takes office all of us here in America will call on our congress critters to investigate the "knowns" in Pizzagate which I see as follows:

Clinton Foundation is entirely corrupt global "pay to play" operation. If Bill and Hillary turn evidence we will leave it to the proper authorities to do the follow up work. We on Voat and Reddit will demand a proper investigation and hopefully, accept the the findings. It won't be swept under the carpet.

Anthony Weiner sexted a teenage girl in another state. To my knowledge this violates many statutes in both NY and NC therefore it becomes "intrastate" and a Federal crime (I'm not a lawyer). Those concerned on Voat should write their Congress critter's to demand Weiner be investigated and if he turns evidence let's see what he turns. We should accept what is investigated and it appears that Weiner should see jail time as anyone else who did this (where I live anyways) would be imprisoned.

Tony Podesta owned and displayed nude photograph's of teenage girls in his suburban VA home. This is indeed child pornography (yes it's rather tame but it is kiddie porn). Once again to my knowledge this is illegal and should be investigated. Statutes of limitation should NOT be adhered to here (once again I am not an attorney). There is a politburo approved WAPO article which discusses this as fact and it should be investigated thoroughly. Tony Podesta should see jail time because once again anyone I know here in Virginia would see jail time for this.

What's important now is a proper transition of administration. Shill's on here should take note that all former military and current law enforcement to my knowledge back President ELECT Trump and we take our oaths very seriously.

Thanks to all who did a lot of good work here. God bless. The forces of light and logos appear to be winning right now. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-10/hard-core-clinton-fanatic-manufactured-viral-fake-news-msnbc-used-discredit-wikileak

garlicbulb

Good post thanks

Sui_Juris

Well done, can't bump this enough.

Sui_Juris

Via Cryptome - The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies Contains:

  1. COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum
  2. Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
  3. Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist
  4. How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)
  5. Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

All in a handy numbered list for your easy reference in calling out shills, trolls and disinfo agents.

Thakiddds

This is amazing. Where did this come from. It should be messaged to all known investigators.

RickFeynman

Google "Cass Sunstein, Internet Czar, Obama Plan for Internet Control 2007"

The entire plan was defined long ago to kill the conspiracy theory's on the internet.

There is too much talk about shill's here, reminds of the first guy that yells fart.

Here's the deal, if your logic is correct, if your argument is correct, then you WIN.

What I see on Voat is a ton of dumb fucking bots. There are paid hasbara-shills, but that be the mod's running sub.

All these doc's about 'shills' is right out of Cass Sunstein Hasbara-Shill, Inc.

People talk about Pizzagate, when you lower yourselves to talk about the hasbara-shills, then then PEDO's win.

HarveyKlinger

I'm confused. Is this RicardoFeynman or RickFeynman? I know the username says RickFeynman but it sure looks like the shit that RicardoFeynman posts.

Go back to MySpace.

derram

https://archive.is/xE3SU :

CTR admits plans go takeover /r/politics : Drama

https://archive.is/yHITB :

Information about CTR from an ex-CTR shill : The_Donald

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