trazzz

ok

LavonAffair

Another thought that occurred to me: If they censor the alternative media then millions of paid trolls will be out of a job; the trolls should be up in arms over this bill.

warrior_of_light

Rule #1 in congress: Any Bill that is named "Insert patriotic name here" does exactly opposite of that which the title implies

Citzens United= Corporations are people

Patriot Act= Allows indefinite jailing of "terrorists" and other constitutional violations

USA FREEDOM ACT= the child of the patriot act

featheredmasks

Congress.gov says it's only hit the senate not that they've passed it, unless they're not quick to update their sites.

(Sorry no screenshot, in a rush) Sponsor: Rep. Nunes, Devin [R-CA-22] (Introduced 11/22/2016) Committees: House - Intelligence (Permanent) Latest Action: 12/01/2016 Received in the Senate. (All Actions) Roll Call Votes: There has been 1 roll call vote

LavonAffair

According to senator Portman's page it passed as part of the NDAA 2017 bill. I am guessing congress.gov hasn't updated yet. Senate Passes Major Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill as Part of NDAA

featheredmasks

Ugh. I was hoping it wasn't true. Thanks for the source.

Antiseed117

"countering propaganda"??? Where was this when Obama passed the bill allowing MSM to use propaganda against the American people??

Sui_Juris

But then who will be left to pay their salaries?

LavonAffair

The majority of my acquaintances.

trazzz

I know very well how pervasive is american culture, but in recent time, as i have seen, the new SJW culture it is not very loved.

At least they are not murdering their own civlians en masse yet.

Russian now don't murder their own civilians, i don't know where this propaganda come. USA are pushing for mass immigration so strongly that they are changing they ethnical majority. ( and IMHO is even worst that murdering their own civilians cause it is an ethnical displacement )

brbomglolwtfbbq

BUNKER DOWN GENTS

Zimque

Constitution has been around for well over 200 years. First amendment now compromised because of a fake news story.

h2d

FUCK THESE MOTHERFUCKERS! IF TRUMP DOESN'T REPEAL THIS SHIT (IF OBAMA IS ABLE TO GET IT SNUCK THROUGH), THERE'S GOING TO BE BIG PROBLEMS. This is some beyond Orwellian type shit. Literally, I saw a great piece the other day about how the US and Russia are entering into some new bizarro contemporary version of the Cold War-era (at the height of the fear of mutually-assured armageddon; which coincidentally isn't so 'mutual' anymore -- Russia's nuclear capabilities/arsenal far outweigh those of the US at the present - but that's not something I want to think about at all!). It's like we are switching places with the old USSR - becoming the USSA and they are the pre-eminent anti-globalist nation and are still managing to remain powerful in the face of all of the economic sanctions our govt and the EU have imposed upon them. We're inching closer and closer, every day, to a real-life "thought police" -- I mean, for fuck's sake -- they have a motherfucking "ministry of truthiness" (maybe it's called "department" instead, if that's the official name they are settling on based on what I've read) -- this is getting scary.

THE MAIN POINT that no one is mentioning in the media to counter this insanely lazy and total BS argument that the Russians had ANYTHING to do with the election results in any way. CLEARLY if this were the case, then I think it's rather fucking obvious that they wouldn't be couching their language about it and would flat-out say it. That total SCUMFUCK of a congressman (his name is Adam Schiff, he was on Tucker Carlson's show, who was one of the only people in MSM to push back against this DC scumbag's blatant lies and called him out on it, making him look like a FOOL check it on YouTube) -- they're literally trying to allege that the Russians were responsible for "hacking and releasing John Podesta's emails" and are trotting that out as the excuse for why Hillary lost the election now. And don't forget, the few times you will see Hitlery between now and whenever she will be wearing purple or a subtle flash of purple -- have the rest of you noticed this? I predicted this as soon as she lost, and it's been scary watching it come true.

ALDO_NOVA

why would stop their friends in the Muslim Bortherhood?

CJJacobs

Get your 1984 books out kids...

LavonAffair

The NDAA 2017 Act the bill is attached to is currently in the "resolving differences" stage. I wouldn't be surprised if they make the whole thing more monstrous than it already is if that is possible.

quantokitty

It doesn't matter. They're out of office in less than 30 days and then we'll see.

If this stays in place, it's a sign we're in trouble.

LavonAffair

I'm concerned that the CIA with Obama might nullify Trump's presidency. There's also a movement to allow bound electoral college members to vote for someone other than Trump.

quantokitty

Yeah, I've heard the rumblings of this. Think it's just to stoke the libtards into bigger a*holes than they already are.

We'll see.

P.S. Let's hear it for Jill Stein who made a fortune off hate and paranoia! And they're saying we're telling whoppers?

Baluga

Maybe. They claim to be using the original law's ambulatory text to empower electors. If there is proof a foreign government has subverted the will of the people (through propaganda), that is why we have electors to counter the foreign action by switching their vote as appropriate.

quantokitty

So ridiculous since it's Saudi Arabia that tried to subvert the process by funding The Witch of Endor.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HINT HINT) It isn't the Saudi's (we killed their king 40 years ago and own the current king).))))))))))))))))))))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-K3odk0-4

Baluga

It's okay because only Russia and China can threaten US wellbeing.

quantokitty

Exactly.

We certainly have nothing to fear from people who swear allegiance to Satan and want one big global society to make child trafficking easier.

OrwellKnew

If this Act were to truly meet it's stated name / goals, we would see the CIA abolished and members of the Mainstream Media in jail

featheredmasks

It doesn't matter. The first amendment promises freedom of speech and press. That's like saying The Onion can't operate because it's fake and could persuade people.

solar_flare

Ministry of Truth Act?

MeeestaTraumaLlama

Did it pass??

Zimque

Yup. On to being a line item in Barry's lame duck budget bill.

LavonAffair

yes, as part of the NDAA 2017 bill.

1754llp0l171c4l

Let the people be the judges.

DeadMary

Fuck man, they are about to put their jaws around our throats.

Enjoy these last few months of an open internet

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

It is mathematically impossible to shut down things they they want to censor. Look into something called "Riffle" by Albert Kwon at MIT. They either have to remove the physical optical fiber cables by which we communicate or we WILL RISE.

LavonAffair

This could put a stop to the pizzagate investigation in the near future. We need to call our congressmen and demand that they reverse this atrocity. I'm expecting that it will have to be reversed on Trump's watch; Obama isn't going to. I expect the msm to start saying that pizzagate is "russian propaganda." they are already priming us for it [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/world/europe/vladimir-putin-russia-fake-news-hacking-cybersecurity.html](Foes of Russia Say Child Pornography Is Planted to Ruin Them)

The worst section is 501 from h.r 6393 highlighted https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/12/03/threat-to-alternative-media-house-passes-hr-6393-russian-propaganda-bill

*Section 501 (a) (1)

ACTIVE MEASURES BY RUSSIA TO EXERT COVERT INFLUENCE.— The term “active measures by Russia to exert covert influence” means activities intended to influence a person or government that are carried out in coordination with, or at the behest of, political leaders or the >security services of the Russian Federation and the role of the Russian Federation has been hidden or not acknowledged publicly, including the following:

 (A) Establishment or funding of**a front group.

 (B) Covert broadcasting.

 (C) **Media manipulation.**

 (D) **Disinformation and forgeries.**

 (E)  Funding agents of influence.

 (F)  Incitement and offensive counterintelligence.

 (G)  Assassinations.

 (H) Terrorist acts.

 (e) Duties.—The duties of the committee established by subsection (b) shall be as follows:

(1) **To counter active measures by Russia to exert covert influence, including by **exposing falsehoods, agents of influence**,    corruption,      

(2) Such other duties as the President may designate for purposes of this section.

Given the timing of this and the bogus propornot list I do not expect proper judicial oversight for the actions of this committee, I expect the government to violate the 1st amendment and simply censor websites they don't like. And to violate the 14th amendment, indefinitely detaining journalists without due process. The 2012 NDAA Act made way for indefinite detention without trial. A lethal combination.

ALDO_NOVA

meanwhile CTR is getting federalized - it's beyond Bizzaro

WotTheFook

^This^. They are trying to shut down something that can't be shut down. Besides, disinformation and propaganda are Hillary's stock in trade - she can't function without them. Pizzagate isn't propaganda, it's reporting facts as they are uncovered.

grlldcheese

There is the off chance that this is groundwork to throw Brazile in prison and kick half the major news companies out of the press pool.

We think they're talking about us. But the laws they make can and should be used against them.

Naalu

Who has the majority in the senate and congress? Im not from USA.

The_Almighty_Kek

Doesn't necessarily matter. Both parties are corrupt AF. Plenty of GOP members would be happy to push bills like this.

senpaithatignoresyou

The million dollar question: Can it survive the supreme court?

warrior_of_light

If they fucking choose to take the case. Must be nice to avoid the most important rulings in current history on a "meh i dont feel like this one" basis.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

They own the supreme court. The government is done. This is all going to spread one way or another.

hedy

What are the chances that this post sees the light of day here?

stunknife

They're extremely terrified. At this point it's a race against time to find a real smoking gun

warrior_of_light

They made this legislation in june 2016. While its pretty shady they are hiding it in the NDAA, its hard to make the arguement this is directly pizzagateish. The scary reality of this passing is imminent though, regardless of its relevance to this investigation. The bill is going to be voted on in the house. You need to call your House of Representative members of YOUR districts and light a fire under their asses.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

Dude. It was going on In June 2016... it didn't have the retarded name that focues on this one aspect (Comet pingpong) But this bill is absolutely a result of the mass awakaing taking place as a result of wiki leaks....

Pizzagate has been on going for atleast year... probably more? But It got it's shit name mid November. #DCPedoElites Ok I'm not saying I have a better name, but The biggest thing that is discrediting this research. is the stupid fucking name.

trazzz

And ... i think that this kind of laws will backfire as NSA spying. The USA have founded their ideology on freedom ( of speech, religion, commerce ). If they start to manipulate media like other countries why do you prefer USA to Russia or China or Arabia? The european people already sees Russia as an example not because they are free, but because they are an european country, what USA is no more. If you leave freedom from USA, what remains? It is a Brasil like country and as Brasil the influence on Europe is ZERO. It remains Russia as the only european empire. Ok, USA are more powerful, but culturally speaking they are more and more far from europeans.