Why don't we crowdfund an investigative journalist? ( pizzagate )

submitted by justhereforpizzagate

Obviously the work everyone is doing here is great - but after a while, the leads will dry up and nothing can be conclusively proven.

I think we need to hire a serious journalist, someone with unimpeachable credentials and trustworthiness, a willingness to work full time on this and contacts in government/politics. Based on some quick Googling a campaign would cost around 500k, but we could perhaps start with a 100k target and keep funding. The journalist would send out a monthly update which would hopefully gather attention.

Having a crowdfunded professional would be useful because it is a different aspect to what we are doing. We are throwing a huge net, searching into all sorts of corners and finding interesting links. The professional will be able to sort the wheat from the chaff and can focus deeply on certain elements. They could infiltrate and video record suspects or use their contacts to do in-depth digging.

Anyway, what do you guys think? I'm thinking independent investigative journo because the MSM seem to be totally avoiding this. If we want to find the truth and get it out - we have to find the information, but it needs to be backed by a credible source. I'm happy to put in $200 to get the ball rolling.

jc2017

If you start this crowd fund can we do a second one to pay for his funeral

justhereforpizzagate

Yeah good point. I mean there are probably journals out there who have done work on similar pedo rings before but are currently just working in house on some PR guff. I mean investigative journalism doesn't pay well at all any more, and I'm not sure this is something you could do in your spare time (Mother Jones' investigation of private prisons cost $350k).

LawofTruth

I agree this is the next logical step. There's a bit of synchronicity here as well because I had the same exact idea yesterday.

MAGA_OR_GTFO

That was my thought. I don't know who particularly to hire, but I think hiring somebody is a good idea.

WillinglyFallible

We need fletch

Brinecat

Lisa ling Chris Hansen(lol) Dave Rubin Jon Stewart

while we were at it i was thinking we buy that Documentary about Child Protective services / Fostercare from the guy who never released it ( that Georgia senator that was murdered )

At any rate we must be careful because we don't want whomever to take the money and run....

search4truth

I suggest Sibel Edmonds who is creating a new News org ' Newsbud', or Nafiz Ahmed.

justhereforpizzagate

Yep just looked into her - she would be perfect!

witch_doctor1

David Seaman is already doing it...why not crowd fund him? I sent him a private message on youtube and invited him here. Don't know if he made it. Maybe if some more of us reached out to him and supported him?

Brinecat

i am not a fan of david seaman, to be honest he isn't that smart... also his videos where he peddles gold.... and bit coin ?? that joint is owned in part by Alefantis ex Boyfriend David Brock, right ??

witch_doctor1

I like him....I think he is definitely brave and makes some good points. You don't have to be a genius to be a good reporter, know what I mean. Brave with a B average and a good moral compass would be enough to make me happy. As far as gold and bitcoin...he explained about the bitcoin and it did not sound like it has anything to do with Brock at this point, and there are a lot of people talking gold and silver right now because they could be set to move big here shortly. Seaman's focus of interest prior to pizzagate was financial, so it makes sense.

if_i_die_investigate

Second that

SpikyAube

What kind of evidence is needed? Video evidence, DNA evidence, witness/victim testimonies, things like that. Having some way of allowing victims to come forward and speak out would be very useful, but I've no idea how that could work without it being risky.

I've been looking into the UK side of things and found some interesting stuff. There's some established establishment paedos there so making connections between them and US establishment paedos could help establish that the US establishment is also full of paedos.

justhereforpizzagate

Honestly I'm not sure but if you look at James Risen's stuff he manages to do it - although the scale of Pizzagate is pretty huge.

I'm actually from the UK and that's whats so interesting about Pizzagate - something of similar scale happened here (Elm House) but it was hugely covered up and is still being investigated (muzzled) by the government 30 years on. I originally thought that FBIanon was lying when he said the Saudis and all governments are involved in it - however I'm starting to think that this conspiracy could actually be huge.

The other thing is - Elm House probably implicated 2 prime ministers (Heath, Thatcher) and is still being covered up 30 years on. I think that a similar thing could happen in the US. That's why the testimonies are important.

SpikyAube

I expect that the UK stuff is still going on. If it wasn't, I'm sure they would have just investigated, found all the paedophiles from way back when etc. But there are current members of the House of Lords who were involved back then, and I just think it's naive to think they aren't still doing it, and that others aren't now involved in doing it as well - they all help each other out and get each other into certain jobs and positions of power etc. Plus there have been police whistleblowers in the UK (not that the MSM has given them any time) who have said that child prostitution is being allowed to happen and being covered up. Police officers who try to investigate get into a world of trouble. Apparently a lot of it is to do with freemasonry and stupid secret boys societies where they all promise to protect each other no matter what, even if they're running a sadistic paedophile ring and raping and murdering innocent children. It's sick. But you can kind of see how, by recruiting similarly sociopathic people into a secret society, they can infiltrate all kinds of professions and levels of government and law enforcement and get away with it. If it started with the aristocracy and the monarchy way back, and since then they've been using their influence to recruit morally reprehensible and depraved people, or people they can control and blackmail, then you can imagine how over decades, they could take over pretty much. It seems like more recently they've begun to take full control of the media and even social media to an extent.

I'm sure most of the current cabinet and all of Cameron's previous one are up to it. You just have to look at George Osborne to know he's got a really messed up, twisted mind.

justhereforpizzagate

Yeah fucking hell I can't really believe this is a thing. I was just reading Sibel Edmonds ama ( https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3pf0qo/i_am_sibel_edmonds_ask_me_anything_on_the_real/?) ) and this all seems ridiculously dark.

If you're from the UK you can see how the media have conspired to make certain politicians rise and fall - particularly the amount and tone of coverage in regards to Farage vs Corbyn, even at the BBC.

p.s. Osbourne is one odd motherfucker

ALDO_NOVA

whatever became of this?

shortymcbossypants

Seems like Milo has taken an interest in this, maybe we could reach out and get him to watch and dig deeper into this? I was reading his Twitter last night and he said that without a doubt that Pizzagate is Real, so we got that. If a detective is needed then, I imagine he might be able to cough up the money for a good one.

cmor88

I thought twitter banned him.

shortymcbossypants

Not unless this has happened in the past 2 or 3 hours, I'm pretty sure I saw him this morning. OH Yikes! You are right. Damn go to do my dishes and a couple loads of laundry and come back to this shit!

cmor88

Milo Yiannopoulos was banned a month or so ago.. back before the elections... It was a fairly big ordeal around here and on Youtube at the time if I recall correctly.. Unless I imagined all of that.

shortymcbossypants

I hadn't heard about it, sorry my mistake.

shortymcbossypants

My Mistake then.

travistea

I think we need more than professional investigative journalist. We have done a lot of the actual intelligence gathering and compiled massive archives and leads. But we need a team of experienced intelligence analysts that know how to sort and weed through information to assemble the entire picture and write conclusive report. Along side with Anon hackers to infiltrate wherever analysts report leads. Too big a job for 1 person.

justhereforpizzagate

Where's fbi anon when you need him? :p

ProbablyHoly

There are Journalists in the Washington Times who believe the story. The Inquisitor has been publishing articles which are fair.

Someone mentioned putting together a grand jury.

carmencita

When they run a story we should push people to write in the comment sections just thanking them for running the article and when they do really great articles they should be rewarded with compliments in great journalism (and adding that that is becoming a dying profession). We have to call out people and sites that call us "conspirators" and highly praise those that recognize the truth and are not afraid to print it.

ProbablyHoly

100% with you on that.

This is amazing, what a remarkable woman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeCtG7sDKt0

comma8

Can we get Michael Moore to do it?

featheredmasks

Even if we got Anderson fucking Cooper, they would discredit him or plant CP on him and say that's why he's so obsessed with the investigation.

CrackerJacks

I wouldn't want to put all of this on one persons back......People get suicided over this sort of investigating.

The media read these board everyday, they're reading them for a reason. To try and shut us off at the pass.

justhereforpizzagate

They would obviously know that risk - and I think the right person would want to do it anyway.

I mean if this is true, this is human trafficking.

fvckh1m_up

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1483772 We need to get political, declare sovereignty of the investigation, and start using proof for pressure

redditsuckz

No one will save us but ourselves.

This is why no Law Inforcement Agency will EVER look into Pizzagate - You are now the ONLY investigators

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1483959

justhereforpizzagate

Er I just want to find a good investigatory journalist, not take down the US government.

0xFFF

A good investigative journalist knows it would be his death sentence.

fvckh1m_up

You oppose pedophilia, but also oppose prosecuting them?