CandyPanda

The whole thing was a show. There was a vid I found from a reporter who took it on the other side from the camera pics. It's a complete staged event. None of it was real. Event the testimony has changed dramatically with bogus new witnesses. Two actual people in the restaurant told an entire different story. I did a short vid that figures it all out and highlights the two different staging areas, one photo op, one local event.

Here's the vid of the actual customers. Just listen to what they say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDn1ziFeeto Here's mine if you're interested (I humor it up because it's f'ing ridiculous what a joke it is): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9La9zlKWo_A

Highly recommend everyone avoid anyone screaming about children and saying we gotta get this guy. Any emotional appeals are suspect until we get past this next vote on the 19th.

comeonpeople

Read the police report. The charges state he had an AR-15 and discharged the weapon in a public place.

jonnythaiwongy9

Defo, that crime was leveraged for sure

thicktail1730947

Bastard should be locked up, not let to go free. The feds shouldn't be allowed to terrorize people into compliance.

Dsonophorus

Yeah, I missed that. I suppose that is additional negative indicator. His backstory doesn't imply that he should be well off enough to wander around the globe helping people either - putting him as a moral zealot or possibly connected to the corruption.

DaemonHaustier

Anyone else think it's a good idea to flood these people with corrections and comments about this story to their inboxes? [email protected]

Yates

Sibel was an FBI agent, she became a whistleblower because of things she heard as a translator. Corbett is an independent reporter, super smart guy and good at presenting fact and reason based content.

Sibel Edmonds has a story to tell. She went to work as a Turkish and Farsi translator for the FBI five days after 9/11. Part of her job was to translate and transcribe recordings of conversations between suspected Turkish intelligence agents and their American contacts. She was fired from the FBI in April 2002 after she raised concerns that one of the translators in her section was a member of a Turkish organization that was under investigation for bribing senior government officials and members of Congress, drug trafficking, illegal weapons sales, money laundering, and nuclear proliferation. She appealed her termination, but was more alarmed that no effort was being made to address the corruption that she had been monitoring.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whos-afraid-of-sibel-edmonds/

Their youtube channels: https://www.youtube.com/user/corbettreport https://www.youtube.com/user/boilingfrogspost

We_The_People

Bet he will be released.

HarveyKlinger

Of course he will. Look how many mothers kill their children, go with an insanity plea, go to a mental hospital for a few months, and get out with no charges on their record. This guy didn't hurt anybody and it was a "crime of passion." He's probably going to walk away with charges dropped on hitting the child and a big fat bank account.

HarveyKlinger

What's interesting about that charge is his lawyers can probably prove that he legally transported the firearm and then the government would have to prove that he left home with INTENT to commit a crime. He already stated that when he left home, he didn't intend to do anything but look around, thus making it a tossup if they could get a conviction. A little lawyer wrangling back and forth and this is an easy misdemeanor with time already served as the punishment. It could be expunged from his record without anybody knowing in just a matter of days or weeks. End result would be that it looked like he was charged and his record would be clean. Pretty good deal.

comeonpeople

You didn't read the article. They have text messages from him to his friends asking if they want to come along and "do some good" or some bullshit. He also says that it's possible a few lives will have to be sacrificed for the good of the many.

Dsonophorus

I see how this guy can damage the cause. If the kid accident, Haiti helping and bible verses are legit, it is compelling to me that his intentions were legit. I will point out that if a system is corrupt, attempts to solve something from within that system will fail unless that corruption is particularly weak. That should be obvious to you. He might be one of the good guys, even if ineffective, and I for one am not comfortable pretending otherwise until I am certain about his true role and intentions. It seems to me that there is one way of looking at this that amounts to 'throwing a patriot under the bus' because you fear that someone will have a bad opinion of you by association. I will be quiet now, because I don't know this guy's true motives.

HarveyKlinger

I'm surprised they didn't call the student a Trump supporter and die-hard Republican.

Fateswebb

So many lies in this article too bad nobody tried to ask the witnesses.

kekistocrat

Case in point. The crisis actor 'shooter' (who didn't self-investigate anything) was a smear. Look up CrisisCast http://crisiscast.com/ or simply crisis actors for hire. Numerous craigslist ads for crisis actors can be found easily. The Smith Mundt Act in the NDAA allows the government to use propaganda on US citizens. This guy and his connections will not be prosecuted. Although he's a patsy, they will protect their own unless the individual does something stupid or says something stupid. The Crisis Acting portion of the program is a continuation of the media. It is used like reality TV. This is 'technology' to TPTB.

kekistocrat

I'm having trouble replying because of this particular link about Omar Mateen being connected to G4S which uses the acting firm CrisisCast which was previously mentioned. It won't let me post the address so I'll break it up. You combine it. Take out the $s. https:$//lockerdome.com/$whatreallyhappened/$8834840942359060$

kekistocrat

I've seen crisis actor ads for political events (designed to make a certain group 'appear' hostile, etc -- think agent provocateurs in BlackLivesMatter), staged shootings, etc.

thicktail1730947

It's "technology" to the powers that shouldn't be, just as Scientology's brainwashing apparati were "technology" to L. Ron Hubbard.

Forgetmenot

Thanks for posting this very interesting website....have an upvoat.

FuckReddit69

holy shit at that website dude. That's insane.

kekistocrat

Omar mateen of the fake shooting in Orlando at Pulse nightclub. And then we have the occasional fake bombing to convince Congress to go to war http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8d0_1478018838 Living in a world of 'spin.'

kekistocrat

OK. I'll try it this way. One way you can tell if it's coming to a neighborhood near you https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=craigslist+crisis+actors&ia=web

kekistocrat

Not letting me reply here, I keep getting a message that says I have to wait 30 seconds because I'm doing it too fast. Is this normal? I have some good links. This is a test anyway to see if I can reply...

kekistocrat

Exactly and moving forward logically, it makes the government (the people with families and such in those positions of power) are, in fact, an occupying force. If they are using propaganda against their own people, then logically, they don't feel as though we are all the same nation of people. Therefore, they are an alen occupying force, is what I get out of it. Not to mention a large portion of the people in these government positions are from this democratic multi-culturalist agenda. Furthering the occupying force theory. Cultural hegemony and cultural marxism.

HarveyKlinger

VERY good point!

nomorepizza

Whatever happened, it would be on the CCTV from CPP. Every business has CCTV, even restaurants. Somewhere there has to be footage of what happened. Either way though, in my mind it was an obvious false flag to discredit the whole investigation. The good news is that pizzagate might already be too big to contain, and there's too much fishy stuff going on to dismiss it.

Chance903

did anyone ever see this kids mugshots , booking charges or court dates ?? they publisize that foe everyone.....That type of News goes in the Daily log of every news agency.

PYSAR

damn

HarveyKlinger

Here's the screen grabs of the two different versions of the article:

https://i.sli.mg/1CARIn.jpg

quantokitty

No, it's that they want more control over what he says and his narrative.

123dsfsaf

why oh why would state drop charges on something like this... himmmmmmmm makes a guy wonder

Xwing

he's been debunked already

G-ma

He may know more than we realize! From ABC News: Maddison Welch's parents said their son is loving and responsible, an affectionate father to two young girls. "He's a dad first," Terri Welch said. He is deeply religious, with two Bible verses, Isaiah 40:30-31, tattooed across his back, they said.

And after an earthquake devastated Haiti in 2010, killing hundreds of thousands, Maddison Welch traveled to the impoverished island and spent weeks there building houses with a church.

Luxxy

Are we SERIOUSLY STILL on this gunman?? WE ALREADY KNOW IT WAS RIGGED. Get off of it already, this shill just keeps posting shit to distract us.

HarveyKlinger

Ummmm... keeping an eye on how they handle/charge him helps determine evidence of false flag or legitimate event dumbass. We don't KNOW anything yet. Some ASSUME with no evidence.

ZalesMcMuffin

I'm considering the possibility that he never even had a gun, and just went in there to try to investigate. Then Alefantis freaked out and the whole network of complicit entities jumped into action.

Why not? (serious question)

The facts that the number of guns keeps going up and the number of shots keeps going up too are reasons to be suspicious of the narrative. Well, we already have several other reasons too, but those are reasons within the case itself.

HarveyKlinger

Agreed.

featheredmasks

Rigging or not, it's still important to know what potential threats face us. Like Mylon said in this thread, they may start pointing fingers at voat.

Luxxy

Save it.

Luxxy

Downvote more why dont you. This is CONTENT we have already covered. NEXT.

featheredmasks

I don't even have downvoting abilities yet lol.

whatonearth

I'm intensely curious about what state you guys think Comet Ping Pong is located in.

dittohead

Thinking intensifies

featheredmasks

This comment made me laugh heartily, thank you.

HarveyKlinger

FYI, those weren't my words, they were the words in the article. I see they recently updated the article and changed the word "state" to "local."

But if I had to answer what state Comet is in or what state DC is in, I'd have to either say a state of denial or a state of confusion. It all depends on how is president.

Screen Grabs: https://i.sli.mg/1CARIn.jpg

Original Article:

POSTED:DEC 13 2016 06:19AM EST UPDATED:DEC 13 2016 09:52AM EST WASHINGTON - A North Carolina man who fired an assault rifle multiple times inside a D.C. pizza restaurant while investigating claims related to an internet conspiracy theory will face more serious federal charges.

FOX 5's Bob Barnard said that prosecutors dropped state charges against Edgar Maddison Welch during his appearance in Superior Court on Tuesday.

The investigation will now be taken over by federal authorities who are expected to pursue more serious charges.

Welch, who has been in custody since the December 4th incident at Comet Ping Pong, will remain in custody.

Current Article:

POSTED:DEC 13 2016 06:19AM EST UPDATED:DEC 13 2016 10:41AM EST WASHINGTON - A North Carolina man who fired an assault rifle multiple times inside a pizza restaurant in the nation's capital while investigating the internet conspiracy theory known as "pizzagate" will face federal charges.

Edgar Maddison Welch of Salisbury, North Carolina, appeared briefly in Superior Court in the District of Columbia on Tuesday.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Sonali Patel told a judge that prosecutors are dismissing the local charges because they have obtained a federal arrest warrant. Patel didn't detail the federal charges. It's not clear when Welch will appear in federal court.

The 28-year-old Welch has been in jail since the Dec. 4 shooting at Comet Ping Pong, which has been falsely rumored to be the site of a child sex trafficking ring run by prominent Democrats.

Welch's parents were in court, but declined to speak to a reporter.

© 2016 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

catslovejustice

Deep state?

Psalm100

I did happen to see recently that there is a court of appeals in D.C. that gets confused with - what is it - the federal appeals court in D.C. The District must have its own justice system and perhaps that is considered a "state" court. It does have some of the characteristics of a state.

LightlyToasted

Correct, DC has it's own metro police and court system. This kind of incident would normally be handled by metro. Editing my comment: they are focusing on interstate transport of the weapon, that's how they're ginning the inside job on the prosecution. In my experience, the Feds are so lazy, they would't bother with this HOWEVER, #Pizzagate interests and false flag issues converge.

FPSFairy

That's my thought as well. The article states the incident happened in DC, which is not in a state. Do feds have jurisdiction over DC? I'm honestly not familiar with how the DC criminal system works, but I doubt there'd have been any state charges to be dropped, given that DC is not in a state.

whatonearth

DC has a court system that is run by the federal government specifically for local cases. The judges are appointed by the president but they apply laws passed by the DC Council and mayor. The equivalent of the local prosecutor's office is run by a federal prosecutor. This probably makes it especially easy to turn crimes committed in DC into federal cases. (Up until the 1970s, crimes in DC were automatically federal cases, and in a sense they still are since DC local courts are overseen by the federal government, but the court system doesn't consider cases in DC Superior Court to be federal cases in the usual sense of the term.)

As the article actually says, "prosecutors are dismissing the local charges" (i.e., charges on laws passed by DC's local government). Not state charges, obviously, since there is no state.

See more general discussion of this topic at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_home_rule

HarveyKlinger

Original article said state charges.

Original Article:

POSTED:DEC 13 2016 06:19AM EST UPDATED:DEC 13 2016 09:52AM EST WASHINGTON - A North Carolina man who fired an assault rifle multiple times inside a D.C. pizza restaurant while investigating claims related to an internet conspiracy theory will face more serious federal charges.

FOX 5's Bob Barnard said that prosecutors dropped state charges against Edgar Maddison Welch during his appearance in Superior Court on Tuesday.

The investigation will now be taken over by federal authorities who are expected to pursue more serious charges. Welch, who has been in custody since the December 4th incident at Comet Ping Pong, will remain in custody.

Mylon

This guy is going to point at voat as his motivation for the incident and the feds will come by to collect the servers and shut the site down. State government wouldn't have that kind of power.

nomorepizza

Yeah no...

WellSetTable

Since Black Lives Matter can get people to murder cops in cold blood and have been allowed to riot, maim, and murder in cold blood. Well they literally say to do it their followers due to " injustices" fuck the Feds they don't have a case.

It's been pretty clear on here not to condone violence. We care about this not just because of the sick corruption but there's children involved. Wanna shut this site down? Shut down BLM . Be ready to throw that out. The hypocrisy of worrying about PIZZAGATE searchers verses BLM is actually no contest . BLM are domestic terrorists sticking up for fucking thugs, PIZZAGATE is about looking out for children and worrying about pedos running the country. Should any thing happen to this site, save all info on BLM .

THEIR the ones that should be shut down.

Eight cops in Dallas shot in cold blood is only one example of BLMs terror.

Seiferus

We should have a backup plan in case this happens.

Edit: I believe the Corbett Report has an investigation going on: https://www.corbettreport.com/reddit-bans-pizzagate-investigation-the-corbett-report-continues-it/

Yates

Corbett and Sibel Edmunds have been battling this same group of pedos for many years. Just a reminder so people don't go accusing them of jumping on the bandwagon. They have exhausted themselves trying to get the word out about the pedo gang. Some dork on a livestream recently asked Edmunds if she's ever heard of pizzagate and she became quite angry. http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2015/10/19/the-peoples-campaign-the-real-hastert-case-all-in-one-place/

Seiferus

Just to further clarify this point, Corbett had wanted to start another open sourced investigation and asked for people to suggest a topic and he specifically said not to suggest Pizzagate because there was already an investigation happening on the Pizzagate subreddit and he didn't want to steal their thunder. Then when the r/pizzagate was shutdown days later he decided to let that be the topic of their open sourced investigation. So as you said, he was not jumping on the bandwagon.

HarveyKlinger

Well, considering their changing narrative, that wouldn't surprise me at all. Remember, he was fully aware of #pizzagate before he even had internet. They also CONFIRMED it had nothing to do with #pizzagate and no shots were fired. And now look where we are.

jonnythaiwongy9

We need to start #chargeCPP"gunman"

thicktail1730947

Definitely! He should go to jail for a long time. Give him a cell with a window so we can wave hello to the idiotic terrorist.

HarveyKlinger

Oooooh... I like this for two reasons. It shows we don't support his actions and are only interested in following the law while also making it SEEMINGLY more difficult to let him get away with it. I'd love to make that a separate post and a sticky as a "public" statement from the VOAT community.

Stellarjay

Ya right, Handied over to the Feds. Should I roll my eyes and laugh now (sarcasm). The Feds, whoever they are, need to be inundated with complaints and phone calls and reports. Oh but then, you might be put on a hit list by the cia.

HarveyKlinger

Well, as we've very recently seen with the CIA, they're not the most credible... or accurate... or thorough... or threatening organization out there. I'm not afraid of their hit list. It's the Clinton hit list I'm afraid of.

LostandFound

By dropped state charges I assume that also includes the child he ran over.....

....to pursue more serious charges? hmmm wonder what that is ..... or will his case be disappeared out of view

HarveyKlinger

Once it becomes Federal, it's just a matter of time before it's "out of sight, out of mind." Don't be surprised if we don't hear anything about this again.

LostandFound

For sure - just another useful patsy. Notice he was not arrested at the scene of the accident ... would have had to give them nasty blood samples. That was all quite handy for them.