Curious how Turin M. Itil shows up over such a protracted period of time , in so many bad places , working for so many bad people, on such singularly bad things. CIA's MK-Ultra drug and Electroencephalogram (EEG) trials and experiments at M.I.P are both well documented and Very Very OLD , yet here's good ol' Turin again, turning up at Tavistock with all of the usual suspects (Big Pharma , CIA , and other folks in the "people control" business.) That's not coincidence. What it IS, in my opinion, is a DAMNED GOOD PLACE TO START LOOKING.

Hah - no I misunderstood you first time. We are agreed :)

Yes, MK-ULTRA is fascinating. It is the key to everything.

No posts from him since 2014. Any chance he's still alive?

Dear LurkingDude,

I'll take you at your word ( that you are "definitely interested in the topic" of MK-Ultra) and invite you to read how it all started. By "it" I mean the expose' of the CIA program, not the program itself.

It has remained an "untold" story because less than a handful of people ever knew it in the first place, AND most of them are now long dead of natural old age (where I will soon join them), AND no one has ever been very interested .

Still curious ? Start here. It's an essay I wrote and put on my small blog so that I could put a link to it on Gab.ai . There is ABSOLUTELY nothing "woo woo" ufo alieny spooky shit about any of it. But it's still pretty interesting, and maybe even valuable to pizzagate investigators, if they know how to pull a string Basically the essay explains how we STUMBLED onto the trail that led us to MK-Ultra and from there to the expose' and scandal & Church Committee)

https://dbentonsmith.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/the-untold-story-of-mkultra/

One of first clues that there was more to M.I.P. than simple dirty dealing was that an M.I.P. researcher named Dr. Amedeo Marrazzi was giving LSD to mental patients at the Institute and taking kickbacks from Sandoz Pharmaceuticals. No way was LSD related to any legitimate psychiatric treatment for the mentally ill , so we knew it had to be something ELSE. Another early clue was the EXTREMELY shady and suspicious international connections of another researcher, Turan M. Itil , who wasn't just FROM Turkey, he kept going BACK, and it wasn't to visit family. Here is some interesting stuff about Dr Itil. Note that it leads to Tavistock ( and thus Soros and thus PizzaGate.) http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v39/n13/full/npp2014253a.html

The CLINCHER, however, and the first thing that pointed us directly at CIA was that the living breathing Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (Jesse Helms at the time) flew into Saint Louis, personally, for 2 days of closed meetings with the Globe Democrat daily newspaper . . . followed a day later by the most massive newspaper attack you can even imagine. It was fucking NUCLEAR !

So, hope you enjoy the read and that SOMEONE reading this stuff will get a burr under their blanket and pick up the trail where we had to leave it. P.S. Don't go all "woo woo" alien spooky shit on this stuff. The Psychopaths behind MK-Ultra and PizzaGate are just flesh and blood psychopaths . . . regardless of their pathology and penchant for perverted theatrics . They are as jail-able as any other criminal, and that's where they belong.

http://www.turkiyeningercekleri.com/1w2o3r4d5p6r7e8s9s0/?p=3200 (links turan m. itil to both mk-ultra and tavistock )

Either that or he knows that there's more than one alter.

Author was tired of being the catcher fir that team

?!?!?!what the actual f*ck?!?!?!?!?

Is this the son of one of the Stratfor executives? He's schizophrenic, iirc.

Jenna=Jenna Bush

I kind of just reads like traumatic experiences triggering a kind of schizotypal disorder or s/t.

Anyone else think we should email him and maybe ask some questions about what he's been through?? [email protected]

Or just hit him up on FB..

Has anyone tried to put every "x" number of letters to see if simple codes were used by these weirdos?

This honestly looks to me like the ramblings of someone either on LSD or suffering from schizophrenia. The nonsense imagery reeks of psychosis. Could even be sleep deprivation. I've had experiences with people who went through psychotic episodes as a result of multiple days of being unable to sleep, and they were hallucinating things left and right. One actually ripped his cell phone apart and pulverized it because they thought it was the problem. I had to go through two days straight with one and it was a real-life horror movie from their perspective.

What in the fuck did I just read?

Schizophrenic by the looks of it. Interesting he should reference Rosemary's Baby though.

He's definitely well read. Check out his book list with odd posts with connections to occult/mysticism/Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn....-

How to Summon And Command Spirits, Angels, Demons, Afrit Djinns https://www.facebook.com/pages/How-to-Summon-And-Command-Spirits-Angels-Demons-Afrit-Djinns/440518969467554 Vibrational Medicine: The #1 Handbook for Subtle-Energy Therapies https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vibrational-Medicine-The-1-Handbook-for-Subtle-Energy-Therapies/120262961479912 Moonchild https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moonchild/109645935721392 The Manual of Harmonics of Nicomachus the Pythagorean https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Manual-of-Harmonics-of-Nicomachus-the-Pythagorean/320076764769209 The Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Complete-Golden-Dawn-System-of-Magic/464829316912928 Masks of the Illuminati https://www.facebook.com/pages/Masks-of-the-Illuminati/109670875726589 Enochian World of Aleister Crowley: Enochian Sex Magick https://www.facebook.com/pages/Enochian-World-of-Aleister-Crowley-Enochian-Sex-Magick/299057900197837

This is some poor bastard who's been through Monarch programming and has been discarded for whatever reason by his handlers. This is my take on some of his complaints:

"hypnotic strategists" - because that's what Monarch handlers are.

"I got manually masturbated by night stalkers" - early childhood memory.

"I am LIKE an orphan, KIND of," - his parents abused him? He might not see them as his parents any more.

"I know who I am. I only am, but some are too" - possible sign of DID. He knows who he is now but there are other personalities.

"but we are both desensitized by rape and jihad and porn so that we don't lust for each other as much as we do feel bipolar sexually for other individuals we can abuse or submit ourselves to?" - relationships between members are like this sadly. They torture and abuse each other under orders.

"and demonstrating respect to the Stewards (Martha's family) while at Casis and living in Pemberton" - he moves in elite circles, surprise surprise.

Never forget - The CIA uses LSD and other psychotropics. MK Ultra style ops employs LSD and other psychotropics along with heavy psychotropic music and images - this stuff programs people, can be used to split and close off personalities, yes, but also messes with their brain structure, probably permanently.

Read "Acid Dreams" and understand that THAT history is about when the CIA was still in its babyhood regarding psychotropics. They've obviously only continued the hidden drug culture and may have gone somewhat batshit since.

"I would never put my neck on the line to actively pander for street drugs on the scene of the seedy underbelly of the artisan and bohemian criminal network"

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/34/348460_re-gray-if-you-ever-so-much-as-criticize-me-again-i-will.html

JIMMY COME_ playing head games with Reddit again? "Give me your brain," the machine says, "Let me rewire it for you." None of you are going to want to see the Indian mound after this, I can assure you. Devils in the details.

It could be code, or it could be some inside thing.

What does his other emails look like? Dude sounds like a fucking nutjob.

Just a repost of something I said in a reply to someone else: (please upvoat so people can see this)

"maybe of combination of things going on there, he even mentions "schizo bipolar" I'm not a doctor, but I do believe that Bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia are "cousins" as far as mental disorders go, and doctors usually prescribe a combination of medications, basically the "throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks" methodology. Kind of the same thing with PTSD; there's no sure-fire way to treat it, but they do the best with different meds for schizophrenia, bi-polar and anti-depressants.

I really believe that this guy has mental problems, and there's no darker issue at play here.

Please no one harass this guy or his family online . That only takes away from the real investigation and also puts a target on all of our backs. Plus, he doesn't deserve it, he apparently was already dealt a shit hand by life."

This guys says he has hallucinations and is a schizo on his fb profile

https://www.facebook.com/american.autocracy/photos?pnref=lhc

" I am LIKE an orphan, KIND of, and for that I am asking for sympathy from you, as you still have your mother's presence, and I am "know, YO". Catch those codewords. "

Any connection to pixar pizza planet? that truck has "yo" on the tailgate. http://archive.is/SP7Gc

https://www.instagram.com/pizzaplanettruck/

I just found this on Facebook. If someone else has found it I'm sorry to repost. I'm not sure how to load it other than this way but if someone can put it on here a different way, that would be great. I haven't finished watching it but it appears to be relevant!

https://www.facebook.com/militantchristianmedia/videos/vb.256201888085205/339341689771224/?type=2&theater

Here is a link to this David McCullar's soundcloud page: https://soundcloud.com/lightworker-512 Some kind of rudimentary noise-industrial stuff. The guy apparently knows how to use pro tools and drum machines to some extent at least. lol I'm not particularly fond of his stuff or this type of "music" in general. He is basically living on neptune or something. I wouldn't say this guy is involved in an conspiratorial stuff, unless he was/will be being used as some agent provocateur by others, and even then I don't think he will fully understand what is going on.

I honestly think this guy is a paranoid schizophrenic. I would wager a bet that this is his facebook: https://www.facebook.com/american.autocracy . Tons of selfies, which usually is a sign of some kind of mental disorder (seriously).

A couple of odd things:

1) He does make a reference to DMT in that rambling mess of an email. He could have been on it when writing that message or taken it before and it completely took away his perception of reality (in a societal sense). DMT is no joke, I've never done it, but look up Joe Rogan's videos on it. It is the most powerful psychedelic substance on earth, if not the most powerful substance on earth, PERIOD. Could it be some kind of botched MK Ultra experiment? Maybe, but it's hard to draw conclusive evidence from just that email.

2) The fact that is facebook url is "american.autocracy" is disturbing, as it is directly referencing American under rule of a dictator or monarch.

That being said, I sincerely think this guy is off his rocker and maybe is some kind of relative to Mike McCullar at Stratfor. Probably son, as hinted by this this chain of emails: http://www.crazyontap.com/topic.php?TopicId=303603 I assume Emily is his estranged/ex wife.

I know a little about this kind of stuff. My uncle is paranoid schizophrenic and it has put has pretty much torn my father's relationship with his other family apart, over the stress of who is going to take care of his brother.

Not saying that everything at Stratfor is on the up an up, but keep in mind, these people are human beings too.

Check this one out: https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/34/348460_re-gray-if-you-ever-so-much-as-criticize-me-again-i-will.html He calls her Barb?

Edit: Wrong name match when I searched, but it's interesting that they tie Katrina Pierson to being a follower of Agenda 21 conspiracy. Wonder if that's true or not?

Now that I re-read that. That's to Barbara Bush (as in George's daughter). I guess that must be one of her alias emails?

Wikileaks is compromised. Stop posting links to Wikileaks based content.

Odd reference to Dimethyltryptamine, the drug Joe Rogan made famous.

On it's surface the email, obviously, looks like the rant of a textbook paranoid schizophrenic. There are a few simple cross checks to determine if it needs further investigation. Did the sender have a know and more or less sensible relationship with the recipient prior to this email (i.e. were the two individuals associates in any normal sort of way.) How about afterwards, did they become or continue to be associated with each other (work, family, socially) ? If the answer to either question is yes, then the letter should be taken very seriously indeed. What I mean by "seriously" is that if the guy is NOT simply a garden variety nutjob then the letter reveals imbedded code-like phrases and MK-Ultra references which suggest that the program was not as wacko/failed as it was assumed to be back in the day, and has both expanded and is more practically useful than we thought at that time. If ( and ONLY ONLY ONLY if ) that is the case, then the email is an extremely rare and valuable lead into things dark and dangerous enough to warrant the most intense focused investigation. Ever. If MK Ultra actually WORKED , if it matured and expanded into anything with practical application ( and was not simply the fever dream money-funnel and playground a small cadre of depraved sexual psychopaths) then I would say that rooting it out would take precedence over absolutely every other thing you might possibly have on your plate. Having said that, however, be forewarned that you tread along the fragile rim of insanity when looking into such stuff. Cold and uncompromising scientific method and hard evidence are your only lifeline.

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I couldnt help but LOL at the end of that email.

In my experience with the Stratfor documents, it seems that there are a ton of spam emails.

Maybe theres something more, or... maybe theyre just spam. Im leaning towards the spam angle.

MK Ultra short circuit?

He appears to be mentally ill, for one reason or another. I found a pdf file online documenting his emails to Stratfor and the recipients concern over his well being. Here:

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/attach/29/29522_2009-01-25_Chronology_and_E-Mails_sent_to_Patti_and_Mike.pdf

Here is the email. Now let me see how to crack this...

------------------------------------///////----------------------------------- Hell, thanks for this reproduction of Rosemary's Baby with my neighbor-DMichaelM

Nephew Mike, Hell, thanks for projecting a reproduction of Rosemary's Baby with my neighbor... NOT. I love you for shelter and food you have provided. However, you and YOUR family (I AM NOT RELATED TO KAY) are complete hypnotic strategists to dissuade mine and Senator Clinton's political platform. You hypnotic strategists have sickened me. I drank two glasses of an herbal milkshake. Had I put them in the microwave maybe I would be on dimethyltryptamine like from big b'd. I know that when I take this capsule its gonna bring me to my knees. So what made me vomit, unripened frozen strawberries, or basil and/or mint seeds? Dinner at grandmas was a Christmas affair show and tell. Is there such thing as a green speckled milkshake, because my body rejected temazepam for the first time and it tasted like banana mucus mango. This past 24 hour Christmas endurance is a big problem, Mike. I'm guessing either you or Dean got my girlfriend pregnant first, before I got manually masturbated by night stalkers. So, NO MORE of that at my nosferatu Wulff mother's ranch THAT I AM CLAIMING AS MY SANCTUARY from you. I should feel better in the morning, if I can get some sleep. The problem is, I don't respect you very much for prompting hypnotic distracting strategery, with your and Dan's goofy mum, quite plain and simple. How I respect you is that you are tough, guy. I don't want a fight. I need you to submit to me nonsexually. In fact, the reason why I hate your whore wife is because ever since you have been with her, even when I have been pacific and peaceful in you all's company, you have held a grudge for the abuse you endured in my interpretation of my mother's departure and those retribution overtures oughta be cut off at the source. I am LIKE an orphan, KIND of, and for that I am asking for sympathy from you, as you still have your mother's presence, and I am "know, YO". Catch those codewords. I know who I am. I only am, but some are too. I request love and affection, from you as my subordinant. I am NOT offering apologies that you have given thanks for and rejected. I require your submission, of this sort. Please excuse me for being so bitter. I repeat, "ever since you have been with her, even when I have been pacific and peaceful in you all's company, you have held a grudge for the abuse you endured in my interpretation of my mother's departure and those retribution overtures oughta be cut off at the source." That is our problem.

of time and space perceptively, David Frederick McCullar

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Uhhhh found the dudes fb page. He's more than a little weird.

In Podesta E-mails I think Dominoes = Dominoes Programming = MK Ultra

UHHHHHH, WHAT THE FUCK

It might be nothing, but wow, how friggin' bizarre in light of everything else we now know...

LOL. This was sent TO stratfor! Kids and shills, I'm sure you can send emails, too.

lots of all caps word...probably of some significance. Wish I knew how to break code!

Change your title so people look into this and upvote. This global intelligence Stratfor group is weird and seems like a cover for something

The book is titled the next decade

Why is this company mailing out over 1500 books A book that you can buy on amazon??

I wonder if this list has nothing to do with a book or maybe they mailed them books with something of significance placed IN the book. They need to interrogate that austyn crites.

This is a long list of people in this email?? https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/attach/17/17753_customers%20shipped%20a%20copy%20of%20TND%20thru%2001312011.xls

Austyn Crites is one of them

The guy is a loon. Seems like MK ULTRA gone wrong. He is the son of someone higher up IIRC. Here another guy is forwarding crazy email to his dad - https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/emailid/362028

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/31/313978_severe-depression-apology-not-severe-schizophrenia-actually-.html

Other nutty ones:

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/32/328597_fw-from-david-f-mccullar-.html

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/29/299751_fw-david-mccullar-.html

Looks like the sender has mental health issues..mentions Depakote, which is used to treat epilepsy and bipolar disorder. But still weird.. Email mentioning Depakote.. https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/emailid/327080

List of emails from sender.. https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?q=&mfrom=&mto=PhantomOthOpera%40aol.com&title=&notitle=&date=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0&file=&docid=&relid=0#searchresult

Also, remember the guy that looked like he was going to pull out a gun at a trump rally so the secret service took trump off the stage? That guy was in the global intelligence emails. He was on a long list of names and addresses. The list was supposedly a list to mail books to. A book about America in the future - can't recall the title. But maybe that's not what the list was about st all. Maybe it's a list of their workers or actors or abused kids that are grown now???

I'll try to find the email

Ummmmmm. If that's not code talk then I don't know what that is. Maybe someone tripping on some crazy drugs?? But the use of the words orphan, abuse, subordinate, submission, and yes, the actual use of the words code words ..... makes me think that this email is really code words

Here's another bizarre email in the global intelligence dump https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/13/1326067_testing-the-pizza-pages-your-list-.html

That is crazy!!!! It reads like russian viagra spam, but seems like it could be coded language of some sort. Have you looked for more emails from or to the sender of this email?

Uh.....

that is some messed up shit