If FindingAssange does deliver tomorrow, think twice before downloading. ( pizzagate )

submitted by dafacts

Hey guys,

So I hope they do deliver and I hope it is legit.

But.. I won't be downloading anything. Not until the contents have been verified properly.

The last thing you want is to have downloaded actual CP (we don't know what's in there) and then it's on your computer, they've got your IP address, probably some tracking cookies too.

Probably the safest option would be to sit back and let other people download it first. There will be hundreds or thousands of people doing it. It won't be long until the smoking gun is found, if there is one. And you don't really want to be the one to find it, if you can help it. It may put you at risk in some way or another.

If they are in fact emails, they need to be verified somehow. I have little faith that this will have been done already.

Keep in mind also, that if we are not 100% sure of the source of the emails, they may have been tampered with by CIA etc. Even if they seem to include incriminating words, images or video - they would be happy to throw someone under the bus if it gets the reaction they want. They might fabricate an email that makes Podesta look 100% guilty, with evidence, and we don't know their motives for doing so. It may turn out later that they prove that email was faked, and then since we believed it, it renders all previous emails as useless (probable fakes).

Basically what I'm saying is keep an open mind, and tread carefully. Nothing is as it seems. They've had 48 hours to prepare for this, I find it hard to believe that they will allow the leak to happen if it is genuine.

SIMONBARROW

Findingassange.com seems to be a domain hosted by Enom.com

This company has a bad history in relation to Wikileaks:

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/WIKILEAKS.INFO_censored_by_eNom_and_Demand_Media

Indeed, on this page, Wikileaks calls for a boycott of Enom.com:

"Wikileaks calls for a global boycott of eNom and its parent Demand Media, its owners, executives and all affiliated companies, interests and holdings, including .... [etc.]"

This is not at all promising.

dafacts

well, if they want to come to Australia and raid my home because I use a VPN, they are more than welcome to try. I'll put the kettle on.

dafacts

I can no longer find the Facebook group that the website mentions, it's either been removed by FB or removed by the group members.

jbooba

Well, assuming it´s possible get an (cleaned) oldschool notebook with an old pcmcia wifi adapter. Definitly not the buildin ones. Doubt you can mess with that kind of old tech, since it doesnt have any 3G/4G at all. Hopefully it can connect to the wifi used.

bodthedog

Firstly what they release should be codes for the files that have been available via torrent. It is an 88GB file and is available to download via torrent:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/wikileaks-unleashes-new-88gb-insurance-file-onto-web-whats-inside-them-1566702

Wikileaks always tell people to download the insurance file in case anything happens.

All this website should be providing is the code to open the files. Not the actual files themselves.

bodthedog

Secondly, the files were released before wikileaks possibly because comprimised (which isn't fact yet, he could still well be alive, lets hope). Meaning that they could not of been faked.

We_The_People

Agreed. If they are codes from some earlier files good but if they are codes from the last bunch.. we don't know if JA was in control at the time they were dropped.

jbooba

If you want to risk and download it.

Grab a new cheap phone not connected to you. Get on a public wifi (without any cams around you). TAPE the 2 phone cams. THEN activate it and download the stuff (do not activate it before, it can be tracked). Check the content on the phone (have zip downloader ready etc) and when it´s cp or worst destroy it immediately: throw it in water (still on), after that remove the battery, clear fingerprints. Destroy it as good as you can. DO NOT keep it.

Oh yeah get there with a friend. Looks less suspicious then a lonesome guy/girl fiddeling nervous with a phone. And leave your phones at HOME.

My 2 cents.

dafacts

another note, I wouldn't trust TOR if you're thinking it'll make you anonymous. Not worth the risk really.

reasonedandinformed

Yes. Did not they pass a law that took effect on 12/1/16 that allows them to essentially tap into TOR/VPN connections with the assumption of criminality (that is, no search warrant needed)? They put this under the auspices of stopping illegal activities, but it is really meant to shut down these kinds of investigations.

sixgorillion

In the past, tor was awesome.

Today, all you're doing is routing all your traffic through a three-letter organization.

jbooba

Agree pls don´t be so naive and think you cant be tracked with some fancy addons.

dafacts

Mods can we perhaps create a sticky "discussion thread" for this leak? Otherwise we are going to have dozens of posts about every little part of it, clogging up the whole sub (and it might all be bollocks). One discussion thread to post all findings would be much better and it would also allow a mod to summarise it properly and list the key findings.

@knowthyself @phobos_mothership @victorsteinerdavion

kingkongwaswrong

shit man I was just about to delete this post since it didn't have sources etc (rule 3) then I realised it was you... Can you please include more context for your audience? Some people won't know what you're talking about. Link to an archive of the findingassange discussion or something.

We can only have one sticky (limitation of voat) so it depends on whether you think this is more important than current sticky.

@millennial_falcon

also we SHOULD have some intelligent techies downloading this and reporting back if poss...

dafacts

it probably doesn't need a sticky until it looks substantial i'd say, it may be a massive load of crap. And it will go straight to the top and be very visible regardless.

dafacts

sorry i'll add some more backstory I guess.. cheers