So mutilation of the "female" is fine? The mutilation of the "male" body needs psycho therapy, or something? (trying to use your terminology) Hermaphrodites have both sex organs. Are they male or female? Do chromosomes some into play in this conversation for you, because there are many variants besides XX XY? What about how the brain develops. is this a factor you've considered? What about the endocrine system? All of these are factors into a person and their gender. Having a vagina and a penis are just the external elements?
I agree that at 9 they might not "fully" understand, What I was saying is let them grow and develop who they are on their own. The chances of adult LGBT activist having a child that is trans is quite improbable but not impossible. I'm not talking about them taking meds at 9, or having procedures done. I also agree that they need to develop more mentally. I would never refute that issue. The one thing I'm not sure on is waiting for hormones till they are 15-16. By that time I was in a D cup, and looked like I was out of high school. But girls as young as 13 can get on the pill and that's okay? Because that's how it is.
That's what NOBODY wants to touch about Pizzagate. The politically activist Jimmy Comet and Brock are involved in this. Gays adopting kids. Gay Boy Scout leaders.
Seems obvious what they want: men to have access to young boys.
It's not a mental illness. Hyperbole! Letting a child figure out who they are and not pushing them to fit societal norms I feel is perfectly okay. Plastic surgery for woman to get breast implants is okay though? What is wrong with homosexuals? All of these issues have been around since the beginning of humanity, are you just now being made aware of them?
IDK treating them as kids and not making a big deal that boys play sports and girls learn to clean and cook and take care of baby dolls. It's not 1950 anymore. Playing baseball with a child that wants to play baseball and tea party with a child that wants to have a tea party. If a "boy" wants to grow out his hair and wear pink where is the harm in that?
I would say that there is no harm in what you mention at all. It's just life and we should all be allowed to gravitate towards that in which we drawn to.
But to me transgender at 9 is completely different.
There have been many studies and brain scans on gender. And they are all different. 9 year olds know what they like, don't like. They know that they don't see themselves as assigned to their birth sex identification. If the parent lets the child grow in accepting themselves for who they feel they are and don't push those social standards that others have made I think that it seems perfectly normal. I mean you don't make a child play with a toy they don't like do you? You don't make your daughters take home ec. because she needs to learn to sew right?
I hear you - at least I think I do. Your brother is gay - but was born as a boy.
Gender fluidity freaks the fuck out of people when, in reality it matter so little.
If it matter so little - then why are they making such extreme decisions? I just feel that a an adult and making these decisions is different than as a child - your still coming to understand yourself.
Perhaps i'm being ignorant - I don't know for sure.
The next goal for the sexual deviants it to allow men/boy 'love' to be legalized. This is their stated goal and if you oppose it you are a "PEDOPHOBE."
Sexual confusion, sexualizing children, and sex abuse is being promoted by the MSM in this country as part of a coordinated effort.
If you want to destroy a country, destroy the family and destroy gender roles. Survival of the fittest means the "fit" cultures will destroy the weak ones. This weakens our culture and reduces our population.
What has Europe done in response? Turned to immigration of Muslims to replace the non-breeding population of Europeans. Exactly what the globalists want.
Pizzagate is just a symptom of the larger disease.
Pizzagate isn't the real problem. Pizzagate's garnered so much hostility from the MSM because we dare to question if using kids for sex is an evil thing.
Consider these dozens of stories and 'fake news' hysteria. Why?
Because we are fighting against turning kids into sex objects, which is precisely their end game here.
Yes sexualizing children is completely wrong. I guess you and I are just going to not agree on gender roles, and what transgender is. Sorry for my outburst earlier.
you wish I were a CTR shill then you could blame this on them too bad. I hate pedosexualism with a passion. But I also know a lot of transgender people. There is science behind gender identity, and as I would never say no trans person would be a pedosexual. I will not say that all trans people are. I just happen to disagree with you on this.XX and XY are sexual identifiers. Not Gender identifiers. Look in a science book. How is transgender sexuallizing exactly?
OTTAWA, January 11, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A prominent Toronto psychiatrist has severely criticized the assumptions underlying what has been dubbed by critics as the Canadian federal government's "bathroom bill," that is, Bill C-279, a private member’s bill that would afford special protection to so-called "transgender" men and women.
Dr. Joseph Berger has issued a statement saying that from a medical and scientific perspective there is no such thing as a "transgendered" person, and that terms such as “gender expression” and “gender identity" used in the bill are at the very least ambiguous, and are more an emotional appeal than a statement of scientific fact.
Berger, who is a consulting psychiatrist in Toronto and whose list of credentials establishes him as an expert in the field of mental illness, stated that people who identify themselves as "transgendered" are mentally ill or simply unhappy, and pointed out that hormone therapy and surgery are not appropriate treatments for psychosis or unhappiness.
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"From a scientific perspective, let me clarify what ‘transgendered’ actually means," Dr. Berger said, adding, "I am speaking now about the scientific perspective – and not any political lobbying position that may be proposed by any group, medical or non-medical."
"‘Transgendered’ are people who claim that they really are or wish to be people of the sex opposite to which they were born, or to which their chromosomal configuration attests," Dr. Berger stated.
"Some times, some of these people have claimed that they are ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’ or alternatively ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’."
"The medical treatment of delusions, psychosis or emotional happiness is not surgery," Dr. Berger stated.
"On the other hand," Dr. Berger continued, "if these people are asked to clarify exactly what they believe, that is to say do they truly believe whichever of those above propositions applies to them and they say ‘no’, then they know that such a proposition is not true, but that they ‘feel’ it, then what we are talking about scientifically, is just unhappiness, and that unhappiness is being accompanied by a wish – that leads some people into taking hormones that predominate in the other sex, and even having cosmetic surgery designed to make them ‘appear’ as if they are a person of the opposite sex."
He explained that cosmetic surgery will not change the chromosomes of a human being in that it will not make a man become a woman, capable of menstruating, ovulating, and having children, nor will it make a woman into a man, capable of generating sperm that can unite with an egg or ovum from a woman and fertilize that egg to produce a human child.
XX and XY determine sex not gender. also what about XXY, XXX? Not everyone is made the same with the same genetic blue prints. A lot of this stuff has to do with how the brain develops.
God gave them (homosexuals) over to their own lusts. Pizzagate is a homosexual (Jimmy and Brock are just two) attempt by grown men to rape boys to create the next generation of perverts.
Not all homosexuals are pedosexual, and not all pedosexuals are homosexual. And you think I'm deluded. What is it with grouping everyone together because of some? So I can assume by how you think of this issue you are in the KKK as well? Did you just read how dumb that was? I mean come on.
It has been scientifically proven that gay/lesbian, and trans peoples brains differ. Just like mens and womans brains differ. Thinking that a child doesn't know what he/she wants to wear, or play with is ridiculous. So their parents let their little "boys" play with dolls and dress in dressed and wear pink, and let "girls" wear short hair, play with GI Joes and wear pants and blue is somehow doing something to them? OMG!
Gender and sex aren't the same thing. Gender is how you feel about and see yourself. Sex is what your identified as at birth. I was called a tomboy my hole life because I hated dresses, pink, and played in mud and climbed trees. Believe it or not my genitalia doesn't define who I am. I DO! And from a very early age. Nothing in that cover photo normalizes underage sex, or sex with children. It's child with long hair sitting down. Shit even her shoulders are covered. There is no indecency in that photo unless you consider the word gender sexualized. And that is just nonsense.
They aren't in my world either. Being Transgender isn't sexualizing. Letting a person develop who they feel they are isn't sexualizing. It is allowing them to learn who they are in their own way in their own time. Not yours.
Can you agree that these type of decisions should be left until the brain is fully developed and can understand the complete implication of surgically altering ones gender?
Here is the photographer btw. Full lgbt activist
http://instagram.com/hammond_robin
So it's okay and go off to war at 18, and make that decision, but not this one? no one under the age of 18 has ever had gender reassignment surgery. Do you see something inappropriate with his pictures?
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Transgender surgery is an option for adults who are diagnosed by a mental health care provider as having gender identity disorder. In actuality, very few transgender patients undergo sexual reassignment surgery.
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Legal age of majority (age 18 in the United States)
12 months of prior continuous hormone therapy (HT), unless medically contraindicated
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I'm sorry that's a reality in other countries. It truly is a travesty. If other countries are doing things like this to children then I find total disgust in it. I'm sorry I don't look into other nations for their information (I should start) So I apologize for my ignorance on the issue, and thank you for bringing it to my attention.
I was just pointing out the history of lgbt activism since you said it wasn't the same, albeit I agree with that point in a way, I do believe it is connected in certain aspects
LGB is sexual orientation. T is gender identity. I think they put them together, because T is such a small population w/o LGB they would not get heard.
I'm confused. Are you arguing that transgender people abuse children? Or that the only reason that transgender people identify as such is to give them a pretext to abuse children?
The next step in the agenda is to allow sex with children. This is the portraying of a 9 year old as a transvestite. Sexualizing kids. Now that kids are trannies, adults can have sex with them. That is precisely what they want. Pelosi marched with NAMBLA (man-boy love group).
What the hell are you talking about. Little kid transvestite? A child not meeting social standards doesn't mean they anyone is prepping them for sex. Where the hell did you come up with that from?
I understand that psych trauma by sexual abuse, but not all people that are molested become pervs, and not all pervs were molested. They also like access to little girls so I don't understand why you are only focusing on the boy aspect. There is no gay gene. so that is nonsense. As far as the next two comments I'll paste you comment here so I don't have to anser them individually.
"BOY or GIRL. There are two genders. The rest is the result of sex abuse and cultural degeneration."
There are two sexes. Please try to distinguish between sex and gender.
"XX or XY. Those are the two genders. The rest is spin. Mental gymnastics to create gender confusion and allow for child sex abuse."
There are also sex markers XXX and XXY. Oh and lets not forget about hermaphrodites, which are born with both sexual organs. So how should they gender identify?
"The entire purpose of the MSM is to normalize sex with children by presenting children as capable of making decisions about what their gender is. They want to deconstruct gender identity to cause gender confusion. Normalize pedophilia is the ultimate goal. They are fighting Pizzagate so much because this exposes the agenda of the leftists who want to have sex as children acceptable behavior. Why else, really, would they care about a pizza joint in D.C.? Seriously. Why do they care?"
I know that MSM is propaganda I would never refute that. But are you telling me that a child can't distinguish between liking to play with truck or dolls? Or they like pink instead of blue? The whole gender issue I believe could be solved if we let kids grow up to be who they are and not what people push on them, Hence societal norms. **"Exactly. But that's the goal of NAMBLA and other such groups." **I know the groups like NAMBLA are perverted, and I believe sex with children is completely revolting, but that has little to nothing to do with gender issues.
The next step in the agenda is to allow sex with children. This is the portraying of a 9 year old as a transvestite. Sexualizing kids. Now that kids are trannies, adults can have sex with them. That is precisely what they want. Pelosi marched with NAMBLA (man-boy love group).
She isn't a transvestite, nothing in that photo is sexually inappropriate, and their parent is not saying please come sexualize my child. If it didn't have the word gender on it would you have thought anything about that picture?
The entire purpose of the MSM is to normalize sex with children by presenting children as capable of making decisions about what their gender is. They want to deconstruct gender identity to cause gender confusion. Normalize pedophilia is the ultimate goal.
They are fighting Pizzagate so much because this exposes the agenda of the leftists who want to have sex as children acceptable behavior.
Why else, really, would they care about a pizza joint in D.C.? Seriously. Why do they care?
Human intellectual and psychological development requires integrating vast arrays of internal and external information and experiences, alongside a body that takes ~20 years to become adult.
Much of what is integrated is contradictory, and much else is so contradictory that it is discarded, left behind as part of some developmental stage, biological process, psychological phase or social setting that changes over time.
Some children who are different from the so-called norm sense their difference or otherness earlier than others, but few if any of them have the ability, emotional or intellectual, to leap ahead to determine how they are meant to be years or decades into the future.
Encouraging children, especially unhappy or "different" omes, to focus on adult concepts of gender and sexuality before they even hit puberty does them a disservice. Their bodies are not yet giving them a clue what is going on, and their minds can't truly grasp it. At 5 you might think you are a boy or girl, but lack even an understanding of what a boy or girl is.
Letting children, even difficult, confused or unhappy ones, grow up as children, naturally, however uncomfortable that might be in some ways, lets them develop into healthier adults who have at least a chance to know who they are. And some will always feel miserable, whether they choose to claim a made up gender or a biologically determined one.
Blurring all the lines, anything goes restrooms, full time living as opposite gender, etc., is not good for children, whatever their sex or gender.
Letting a "tomboy" girl be so, or letting a boy who identifies with girly things, be that way, is another thing. That is just common sense, letting them have space to grow into themselves.
Bending, breaking or rewriting all the rules and social expectations of society regarding sexuality especially that of young people who have no idea yet how to express sexuality, is just plain bad.
A 9 year old "trans-activist" is a symptom of a sick culture. Letting a 9 year old be an activist of any kind is not good (for the child).
Great for advancing someone else's agenda though.
Should the public really focus a lot on a 9 year old's idea of gender and sexuality?
After all, if anything goes, anything goes, right?
That is the problem.
That is why it's relevant, that is why that child's parents are doing him (her if you prefer) a disservice.
It mentions nothing of the child's sexuality you did. Maybe she wants people to be aware of the struggles in their life. If a 9 year old was an advocate on human rights, would you still be apposed?
i agree when my kid was 4 he asked mommy where do babies come from ...i frose for a minute ... the stork birds and bees no ...phiillopion tubes mommie and daddie HELL NO ... quick fix... honey you were born in the hospital! <--- truth and it satisfied he was 4 always truth your child its degrees and the savey to understand appropo in the moment......
Well put. Gender confusion and sexualizing of children is the goal.
The movie DOUBT featured a mother who was okay with her son (12) being molested by a Priest. These children have confused gender identities because they are sex abuse victims.
LGB and T are two very, very different groups and should be treated as such. LGB are sexual orientations, while T has nothing to do with orientation. T is about gender, nothing more. I believe that by dropping the T from LGBT will benefit the transgender community.
anyhow lets just see where the investigation leads
I know. Maybe I miss understood your point to the "gut feeling" post. "Anyhow lets just see where the investigation leads" investigation into what? Transgender people? or something else? I'm a little confused.
That would be very interesting. I have a lot of trans friends I know would be appalled if there is a connection to transgender anything and pedosexuals.
▼ noreturn4me
So mutilation of the "female" is fine? The mutilation of the "male" body needs psycho therapy, or something? (trying to use your terminology) Hermaphrodites have both sex organs. Are they male or female? Do chromosomes some into play in this conversation for you, because there are many variants besides XX XY? What about how the brain develops. is this a factor you've considered? What about the endocrine system? All of these are factors into a person and their gender. Having a vagina and a penis are just the external elements?
▼ noreturn4me
You still didn't say anything about the boob job. That's mutilating yourself. Stop splitting hairs. Go learn something.
▼ noreturn4me
I agree that at 9 they might not "fully" understand, What I was saying is let them grow and develop who they are on their own. The chances of adult LGBT activist having a child that is trans is quite improbable but not impossible. I'm not talking about them taking meds at 9, or having procedures done. I also agree that they need to develop more mentally. I would never refute that issue. The one thing I'm not sure on is waiting for hormones till they are 15-16. By that time I was in a D cup, and looked like I was out of high school. But girls as young as 13 can get on the pill and that's okay? Because that's how it is.
▼ noreturn4me
Do you believe the same thing about how the brain develops? That there are differences in the brain between men and women?
▼ noreturn4me
Sex genes okay so explain. If XX is female, and XY is male, what are XXX and XXY, and what sex genes do hermaphrodites have???
▼ Thakiddds
Here's the photogs insragram. Full LGBT activist http://instagram.com/hammond_robin
▼ MeatballPizza
That's what NOBODY wants to touch about Pizzagate. The politically activist Jimmy Comet and Brock are involved in this. Gays adopting kids. Gay Boy Scout leaders.
Seems obvious what they want: men to have access to young boys.
▼ Thakiddds
Polygamy
▼ noreturn4me
It's not a mental illness. Hyperbole! Letting a child figure out who they are and not pushing them to fit societal norms I feel is perfectly okay. Plastic surgery for woman to get breast implants is okay though? What is wrong with homosexuals? All of these issues have been around since the beginning of humanity, are you just now being made aware of them?
▼ logjam
How would that look?
▼ noreturn4me
IDK treating them as kids and not making a big deal that boys play sports and girls learn to clean and cook and take care of baby dolls. It's not 1950 anymore. Playing baseball with a child that wants to play baseball and tea party with a child that wants to have a tea party. If a "boy" wants to grow out his hair and wear pink where is the harm in that?
▼ logjam
I would say that there is no harm in what you mention at all. It's just life and we should all be allowed to gravitate towards that in which we drawn to.
But to me transgender at 9 is completely different.
▼ noreturn4me
There have been many studies and brain scans on gender. And they are all different. 9 year olds know what they like, don't like. They know that they don't see themselves as assigned to their birth sex identification. If the parent lets the child grow in accepting themselves for who they feel they are and don't push those social standards that others have made I think that it seems perfectly normal. I mean you don't make a child play with a toy they don't like do you? You don't make your daughters take home ec. because she needs to learn to sew right?
▼ noreturn4me
grabbed mine to, but ooops I don't have one! What is your point?
▼ noreturn4me
so to wonder why people put them in the category of boy or girl is somehow something they aren't capable of without having been abused?
▼ logjam
I hear you - at least I think I do. Your brother is gay - but was born as a boy.
If it matter so little - then why are they making such extreme decisions? I just feel that a an adult and making these decisions is different than as a child - your still coming to understand yourself.
Perhaps i'm being ignorant - I don't know for sure.
▼ MeatballPizza
The next goal for the sexual deviants it to allow men/boy 'love' to be legalized. This is their stated goal and if you oppose it you are a "PEDOPHOBE."
Sexual confusion, sexualizing children, and sex abuse is being promoted by the MSM in this country as part of a coordinated effort.
If you want to destroy a country, destroy the family and destroy gender roles. Survival of the fittest means the "fit" cultures will destroy the weak ones. This weakens our culture and reduces our population.
What has Europe done in response? Turned to immigration of Muslims to replace the non-breeding population of Europeans. Exactly what the globalists want.
Pizzagate is just a symptom of the larger disease.
Pizzagate isn't the real problem. Pizzagate's garnered so much hostility from the MSM because we dare to question if using kids for sex is an evil thing.
Consider these dozens of stories and 'fake news' hysteria. Why?
Because we are fighting against turning kids into sex objects, which is precisely their end game here.
▼ noreturn4me
Yes sexualizing children is completely wrong. I guess you and I are just going to not agree on gender roles, and what transgender is. Sorry for my outburst earlier.
▼ MeatballPizza
BOY or GIRL.
There are two genders.
The rest is the result of sex abuse and cultural degeneration.
▼ noreturn4me
Fuck you and your gender role bull shit. I might be a woman but it is not my fucking job to cook and do dishes.
▼ MeatballPizza
CTR shill?
I'm talking XX and XY gender differences.
This is to normalize pedophilia by sexualizing grade school kids.
▼ noreturn4me
you wish I were a CTR shill then you could blame this on them too bad. I hate pedosexualism with a passion. But I also know a lot of transgender people. There is science behind gender identity, and as I would never say no trans person would be a pedosexual. I will not say that all trans people are. I just happen to disagree with you on this.XX and XY are sexual identifiers. Not Gender identifiers. Look in a science book. How is transgender sexuallizing exactly?
▼ MeatballPizza
Psychiatry expert: ‘scientifically there is no such thing as transgender’
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/psychiatry-expert-scientifically-there-is-no-such-thing-as-transgender
OTTAWA, January 11, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A prominent Toronto psychiatrist has severely criticized the assumptions underlying what has been dubbed by critics as the Canadian federal government's "bathroom bill," that is, Bill C-279, a private member’s bill that would afford special protection to so-called "transgender" men and women.
Dr. Joseph Berger has issued a statement saying that from a medical and scientific perspective there is no such thing as a "transgendered" person, and that terms such as “gender expression” and “gender identity" used in the bill are at the very least ambiguous, and are more an emotional appeal than a statement of scientific fact.
Berger, who is a consulting psychiatrist in Toronto and whose list of credentials establishes him as an expert in the field of mental illness, stated that people who identify themselves as "transgendered" are mentally ill or simply unhappy, and pointed out that hormone therapy and surgery are not appropriate treatments for psychosis or unhappiness.
Image "From a scientific perspective, let me clarify what ‘transgendered’ actually means," Dr. Berger said, adding, "I am speaking now about the scientific perspective – and not any political lobbying position that may be proposed by any group, medical or non-medical."
"‘Transgendered’ are people who claim that they really are or wish to be people of the sex opposite to which they were born, or to which their chromosomal configuration attests," Dr. Berger stated.
"Some times, some of these people have claimed that they are ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’ or alternatively ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’."
"The medical treatment of delusions, psychosis or emotional happiness is not surgery," Dr. Berger stated.
"On the other hand," Dr. Berger continued, "if these people are asked to clarify exactly what they believe, that is to say do they truly believe whichever of those above propositions applies to them and they say ‘no’, then they know that such a proposition is not true, but that they ‘feel’ it, then what we are talking about scientifically, is just unhappiness, and that unhappiness is being accompanied by a wish – that leads some people into taking hormones that predominate in the other sex, and even having cosmetic surgery designed to make them ‘appear’ as if they are a person of the opposite sex."
He explained that cosmetic surgery will not change the chromosomes of a human being in that it will not make a man become a woman, capable of menstruating, ovulating, and having children, nor will it make a woman into a man, capable of generating sperm that can unite with an egg or ovum from a woman and fertilize that egg to produce a human child.
▼ noreturn4me
I call bullshit!!!
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan
▼ MeatballPizza
Just like the "gay gene" that turned out to be total horse crap.
Gender is determined by chromosomes. XX or XY.
The goal is to normalize pedophilia. That's what the MSM is pushing.
▼ noreturn4me
XX and XY determine sex not gender. also what about XXY, XXX? Not everyone is made the same with the same genetic blue prints. A lot of this stuff has to do with how the brain develops.
▼ MeatballPizza
You are much deluded.
God gave them (homosexuals) over to their own lusts. Pizzagate is a homosexual (Jimmy and Brock are just two) attempt by grown men to rape boys to create the next generation of perverts.
▼ noreturn4me
Not all homosexuals are pedosexual, and not all pedosexuals are homosexual. And you think I'm deluded. What is it with grouping everyone together because of some? So I can assume by how you think of this issue you are in the KKK as well? Did you just read how dumb that was? I mean come on.
▼ noreturn4me
It has been scientifically proven that gay/lesbian, and trans peoples brains differ. Just like mens and womans brains differ. Thinking that a child doesn't know what he/she wants to wear, or play with is ridiculous. So their parents let their little "boys" play with dolls and dress in dressed and wear pink, and let "girls" wear short hair, play with GI Joes and wear pants and blue is somehow doing something to them? OMG!
▼ Orange_Circle
I think it's relevant since it shows the pervasive nature of the media in sexualizing children.
▼ noreturn4me
Gender and sex aren't the same thing. Gender is how you feel about and see yourself. Sex is what your identified as at birth. I was called a tomboy my hole life because I hated dresses, pink, and played in mud and climbed trees. Believe it or not my genitalia doesn't define who I am. I DO! And from a very early age. Nothing in that cover photo normalizes underage sex, or sex with children. It's child with long hair sitting down. Shit even her shoulders are covered. There is no indecency in that photo unless you consider the word gender sexualized. And that is just nonsense.
▼ Orange_Circle
In my world 9 year old little girls / boys are not sexualized. YMMV.
▼ noreturn4me
They aren't in my world either. Being Transgender isn't sexualizing. Letting a person develop who they feel they are isn't sexualizing. It is allowing them to learn who they are in their own way in their own time. Not yours.
▼ Orange_Circle
It's a mental disorder. Amputating a penis doing make anyone a email not matter what their "feelings" are.
▼ noreturn4me
So is getting a boob job, liposuction, face lift, ears pinned, belly tuck, gastric bi-pass. etc...... implicate a mental disorder as well?
▼ Orange_Circle
Amputating a penis and believing you are a female when you are not is quite different from having one's ears pinned, no?
▼ noreturn4me
What defines a female?
▼ Thakiddds
Can you agree that these type of decisions should be left until the brain is fully developed and can understand the complete implication of surgically altering ones gender? Here is the photographer btw. Full lgbt activist http://instagram.com/hammond_robin
▼ noreturn4me
So it's okay and go off to war at 18, and make that decision, but not this one? no one under the age of 18 has ever had gender reassignment surgery. Do you see something inappropriate with his pictures?
▼ Thakiddds
What are u talking about http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/09/child-4-worlds-youngest-ever-sex-change-patient/
Oh look Washington post https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/06/03/parents-of-transgender-child-our-magnetic-5-year-old-is-not-a-threat-to-anyone/?utm_term=.5ab7c63f26a7
▼ noreturn4me
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Sex Reassignment Surgical Guidelines PrintPrint Transgender Health and Surgical Guidelines
Transgender surgery is an option for adults who are diagnosed by a mental health care provider as having gender identity disorder. In actuality, very few transgender patients undergo sexual reassignment surgery.
The Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association provides the following eligibility and readiness criteria for transgender adults seeking reassignment surgery:
Eligibilty
Legal age of majority (age 18 in the United States) 12 months of prior continuous hormone therapy (HT), unless medically contraindicated 12 months of successful, continuous, full-time, real-life experience Regular, responsible participation in psychotherapy, if required by the mental health professional Demonstrable knowledge about surgical cost, length of hospitalization, complications, and rehabilitation Knowledge of different competent surgeons Readiness Patient has made demonstrable progress in consolidating gender identity. Patient has made progress in improving or continuing stable mental health (implies control of sociopathy, substance abuse, psychosis, and suicidal tendencies).
http://www.healthcommunities.com/transgender-health/surgical-guidelines.shtml
▼ Thakiddds
And you are right that's here in the states, other countries don't have that requirement.
▼ noreturn4me
I'm sorry that's a reality in other countries. It truly is a travesty. If other countries are doing things like this to children then I find total disgust in it. I'm sorry I don't look into other nations for their information (I should start) So I apologize for my ignorance on the issue, and thank you for bringing it to my attention.
▼ Thakiddds
Unless parents give them permission though a doctor recommendation.
▼ noreturn4me
Not at age 9. If they did they should be sued and their license to practice taken away.
▼ Thakiddds
I was just pointing out the history of lgbt activism since you said it wasn't the same, albeit I agree with that point in a way, I do believe it is connected in certain aspects
▼ noreturn4me
LGB is sexual orientation. T is gender identity. I think they put them together, because T is such a small population w/o LGB they would not get heard.
▼ MeatballPizza
Exactly.
▼ A_Clever_User_Name
This article doesn't belong in this sub.
▼ pizzathrowaway
transgender is an adjective not a noun.
▼ MeatballPizza
Transgender is a myth. It is a creation of pedophiles attempting to normalize the sexual abuse of children.
▼ pizzathrowaway
I'm confused. Are you arguing that transgender people abuse children? Or that the only reason that transgender people identify as such is to give them a pretext to abuse children?
▼ noreturn4me
prove it? Why because we don't beat our kids to play with gender specific toys anymore?
▼ noreturn4me
1- what is your point with this post?
2- @MeatballPizza and @IgnisDraco how is this sexual abuse?
▼ MeatballPizza
The next step in the agenda is to allow sex with children. This is the portraying of a 9 year old as a transvestite. Sexualizing kids. Now that kids are trannies, adults can have sex with them. That is precisely what they want. Pelosi marched with NAMBLA (man-boy love group).
▼ noreturn4me
What the hell are you talking about. Little kid transvestite? A child not meeting social standards doesn't mean they anyone is prepping them for sex. Where the hell did you come up with that from?
▼ MeatballPizza
It precisely is the point behind these stories. They want parents "okay" with kids being gender confused and sexually exploitable.
Why do you think they care about Pizzagate? What's it really about?
▼ noreturn4me
What is gender confusion?
▼ MeatballPizza
Psychological trauma caused by child sexual abuse.
Why do these pervs want young boys?
To create the next generation of pervs.
Darwinism would destroy any 'gay gene' through breeding. Non breeding = suicide.
These men want access to boys to create the next generation of perverts.
That's what Pizzagate is really all about.
▼ noreturn4me
I understand that psych trauma by sexual abuse, but not all people that are molested become pervs, and not all pervs were molested. They also like access to little girls so I don't understand why you are only focusing on the boy aspect. There is no gay gene. so that is nonsense. As far as the next two comments I'll paste you comment here so I don't have to anser them individually. "BOY or GIRL. There are two genders. The rest is the result of sex abuse and cultural degeneration." There are two sexes. Please try to distinguish between sex and gender. "XX or XY. Those are the two genders. The rest is spin. Mental gymnastics to create gender confusion and allow for child sex abuse." There are also sex markers XXX and XXY. Oh and lets not forget about hermaphrodites, which are born with both sexual organs. So how should they gender identify? "The entire purpose of the MSM is to normalize sex with children by presenting children as capable of making decisions about what their gender is. They want to deconstruct gender identity to cause gender confusion. Normalize pedophilia is the ultimate goal. They are fighting Pizzagate so much because this exposes the agenda of the leftists who want to have sex as children acceptable behavior. Why else, really, would they care about a pizza joint in D.C.? Seriously. Why do they care?" I know that MSM is propaganda I would never refute that. But are you telling me that a child can't distinguish between liking to play with truck or dolls? Or they like pink instead of blue? The whole gender issue I believe could be solved if we let kids grow up to be who they are and not what people push on them, Hence societal norms. **"Exactly. But that's the goal of NAMBLA and other such groups." **I know the groups like NAMBLA are perverted, and I believe sex with children is completely revolting, but that has little to nothing to do with gender issues.
▼ Orange_Circle
I completely agree with you.
▼ Balour
Relevance?
▼ MeatballPizza
The next step in the agenda is to allow sex with children. This is the portraying of a 9 year old as a transvestite. Sexualizing kids. Now that kids are trannies, adults can have sex with them. That is precisely what they want. Pelosi marched with NAMBLA (man-boy love group).
▼ noreturn4me
She isn't a transvestite, nothing in that photo is sexually inappropriate, and their parent is not saying please come sexualize my child. If it didn't have the word gender on it would you have thought anything about that picture?
▼ MeatballPizza
The entire purpose of the MSM is to normalize sex with children by presenting children as capable of making decisions about what their gender is. They want to deconstruct gender identity to cause gender confusion. Normalize pedophilia is the ultimate goal.
They are fighting Pizzagate so much because this exposes the agenda of the leftists who want to have sex as children acceptable behavior.
Why else, really, would they care about a pizza joint in D.C.? Seriously. Why do they care?
Because it exposes their true agenda.
▼ crazimal
Human intellectual and psychological development requires integrating vast arrays of internal and external information and experiences, alongside a body that takes ~20 years to become adult. Much of what is integrated is contradictory, and much else is so contradictory that it is discarded, left behind as part of some developmental stage, biological process, psychological phase or social setting that changes over time.
Some children who are different from the so-called norm sense their difference or otherness earlier than others, but few if any of them have the ability, emotional or intellectual, to leap ahead to determine how they are meant to be years or decades into the future. Encouraging children, especially unhappy or "different" omes, to focus on adult concepts of gender and sexuality before they even hit puberty does them a disservice. Their bodies are not yet giving them a clue what is going on, and their minds can't truly grasp it. At 5 you might think you are a boy or girl, but lack even an understanding of what a boy or girl is.
Letting children, even difficult, confused or unhappy ones, grow up as children, naturally, however uncomfortable that might be in some ways, lets them develop into healthier adults who have at least a chance to know who they are. And some will always feel miserable, whether they choose to claim a made up gender or a biologically determined one.
Blurring all the lines, anything goes restrooms, full time living as opposite gender, etc., is not good for children, whatever their sex or gender.
Letting a "tomboy" girl be so, or letting a boy who identifies with girly things, be that way, is another thing. That is just common sense, letting them have space to grow into themselves.
Bending, breaking or rewriting all the rules and social expectations of society regarding sexuality especially that of young people who have no idea yet how to express sexuality, is just plain bad.
A 9 year old "trans-activist" is a symptom of a sick culture. Letting a 9 year old be an activist of any kind is not good (for the child). Great for advancing someone else's agenda though.
Should the public really focus a lot on a 9 year old's idea of gender and sexuality?
After all, if anything goes, anything goes, right? That is the problem. That is why it's relevant, that is why that child's parents are doing him (her if you prefer) a disservice.
▼ noreturn4me
It mentions nothing of the child's sexuality you did. Maybe she wants people to be aware of the struggles in their life. If a 9 year old was an advocate on human rights, would you still be apposed?
▼ chickyrogue
i agree when my kid was 4 he asked mommy where do babies come from ...i frose for a minute ... the stork birds and bees no ...phiillopion tubes mommie and daddie HELL NO ... quick fix... honey you were born in the hospital! <--- truth and it satisfied he was 4 always truth your child its degrees and the savey to understand appropo in the moment......
▼ MeatballPizza
Well put. Gender confusion and sexualizing of children is the goal.
The movie DOUBT featured a mother who was okay with her son (12) being molested by a Priest. These children have confused gender identities because they are sex abuse victims.
▼ noreturn4me
These are two different issues. Gender identity and sexual identity are two different things.
▼ MeatballPizza
XX or XY.
Those are the two genders.
The rest is spin. Mental gymnastics to create gender confusion and allow for child sex abuse.
▼ Madwack
gut feeling says this some how also goes into the transgender community..something something..follow the money.
time will tell....I think we have seen also a lot of men(looking like men) in some photos...but dressed as woman...mocking trans people?
▼ noreturn4me
They aren't mocking trans people, they are drag queens.
▼ Madwack
a transsexual and a drag queen are very different
LGB are sexualities, not genders!
LGB and T are two very, very different groups and should be treated as such. LGB are sexual orientations, while T has nothing to do with orientation. T is about gender, nothing more. I believe that by dropping the T from LGBT will benefit the transgender community.
anyhow lets just see where the investigation leads
▼ noreturn4me
I know. Maybe I miss understood your point to the "gut feeling" post. "Anyhow lets just see where the investigation leads" investigation into what? Transgender people? or something else? I'm a little confused.
▼ Madwack
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1498590
yes see if there are money trails that lead to community trans orginizations
so lets just see....
▼ noreturn4me
That would be very interesting. I have a lot of trans friends I know would be appalled if there is a connection to transgender anything and pedosexuals.
▼ Madwack
I understand, like your friends :)
▼ noreturn4me
Is that sarcasm?
▼ MeatballPizza
Normalizing sexual abuse of minors.
▼ pizzathrowaway
what does being transgender have to do with sexual abuse? It doesn't even have anything to do with sex!
▼ logjam
While I agree with you, I find it bizarre that you can't drink until you're 21 - but trans at 9!
▼ IgnisDraco
That's right. Parents should be held accountable for abuse.
▼ noreturn4me
What abuse? For letting their kids be who they feel they are, and not acting up to your social standard?