The issue is about control and power and exploitation.

Teen pregnancy stats show big age differences with girls as prey of much older males (not same age boys fooling around).

**NOTE **- I made a thread on /v/pizzagate2 about age of consent items (people trying to lower it and their apologists)

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate2/1603642

It was low because families were stronger. In a strong family the father was actually caring for the daughter and she wasn't out slutting around at ten years old. And if someone had sex with someone's daughter without the father's consent there would be big problems. Of course, this still allowed marriages to be arranged at a young age for the benefits of the family at the expense of the daughter.
In short age of consent was low because women were property and subject to the protection of whatever man they belonged to.

Can you imagine how young the age of consent must have been in caveman days?

MANY horrific things were legal hundreds of years ago. Our ancestors were generally European outcasts and were batshit crazy. People married (and died) at much younger ages back then. 7 is very young but typically, they were marrying other young boys (the girl's age is generally what is being referenced by these minimum ages) often for economic reasons, particularly if you were poor, which nearly everyone was back then. That meant fewer kids for the parents to feed. They also almost all had jobs. ETA: another post below mentioned ownership - yes, females were property and had few rights - certainly no rights to their own property.

There were certainly older men taking advantage of this - no doubt about that. I've come across a few stories like that. One really difficult read is an account of a pedo abuse ring in France from the 1800s - a group of 3 men married each other's young daughters and used them for their ring and acquired 30 or so other very young kids: 120 Days of Sodom https://www.odaha.com/sites/default/files/120_days_of_sodom.pdf

you've tapped into something here.

consider for a moment that this has been going on for thousands of years.

i am not an investigator. i am just a goat here.

There's a sociologist that lived with a native tribe and took a 12 year old wife, had kids and the whole bit. When his grown half native sone went to visit the tribe, the son was offered two 14 year olds as wives. The tribe was very disappointed when he adinamty refused. The two girls did their best to have him marry and impregnate them. Every culture especially native has different ideology on sex.

Women who are young and fertile are offers to the strongest male to produce as many offspring as possible.

The issue with pedos is the rape, seduction infliction of pain for pure selfish reasons. It's about power. even the term pedophilia is too mild for what these freaks do

Abe Lincoln left school in sixth grade and went to work. Kids worked in factories and had different responsibilities. So ideology was different.

This is predatory rape, physical and mental abuse covers under man boy love bullshit. If these pedos did his shit with adult women it's called rape and abuse. A child can't give consent to this shit. Abuse of power and trust.

If you listen to Jay Parker, who grew up in Arden, Delaware, you will discover some things about the area that are sinister. You only have to watch the first minute to find out what he grew up in. https://youtu.be/3AOrbi6uukM

Pre-marital Sex in general was taboo back then, so age off consent laws were less relevant than they are today, because if you were fucking somebody then they were your spouse anyway.

The waters are muddied a little when marriage was also a trading of goods.

I read that in Japan the age of consent is 13. I think in France it might still be 14 or 15 also I think spain might be 14 but I'm not sure.

Someone get a Wikipedia article on it. If I'm correct those are still very young to be having sex. Far too young. It's 16 here in the UK.

In 1896 my great-grand parents got married at 15. So I guess it would depend on how old the other person was. If the male was 13 (which was basically considered an adult back then) then 10 would not be as out of line as it seems now.

Yeah it seems it was. Even 50 yrs ago you were just considered a dirty old perv if you liked school girls, now you go yo jail and its the most heinous thing on earth.

Up until 2001 Hawaii's age of consent was only 14. Than it got raised to 16. In fact, there's alot of states in the U.S. who have their ages set to 16 instead of 18 like most people think

I didn't know this. Helps me understand my ancestry a little better although the family story is still a bit sick and twisted.

My Great Great Grandmother, Julia Howerton, was traded at 10 yrs old for 40 acres to an older man named Elijah (Lige) David Robinson. Julia married at 10 and had her first child at 12. There were 3 children in total, one named Sarah, died young.

When Julia was 17/18 she tied my Great Grandmother (Ethel Robinson) and Great Uncle (Lonny Robinson) to a tree and told them to take care of each other and ran off. I can't imagine living back then and being treated as property. Julia had no rights to her children and her only escape was to leave them behind.

My Great Grandmother Ethel and Great Uncle Lonny were taken care of by the Robinson family. Elijah Lige Robinson remarried. I have found my Great Uncle living with Elijah Robinson's brother working on a farm at 16, but nothing else in the census.

Flash forward to many years later and my Great Grandmother Ethel decides to hunt her real mother down. (Lonny never saw his mother again) She ends up visiting in South Dakota where Julia now lives and had remarried to a George Anderson. She says that Julia is very cold toward her (she stayed a week-her and her husband) and that she was dark complexion (possibly 1/2 Native American?) and how she found out she was traded to an older man for 40 acres.

So far, I have had no luck finding Julia's real parents or lineage yet or figuring out what 40 acres she was traded for. They say Elijah worked on the railroad but that's all the info I have. Sad family history...

Right? It kind of freaked me out, because what was going on in society so that they would set the age that low? I'm starting to think things were a lot different than what we've been told. The other day I was watching an interview of Shelby Foote, a noted Lincoln scholar/writer. He was asked about the well known fact that Lincoln shared a bed in Springfield with his business partner, of course, another man.

He answered this question with a strange story. He talked about a young homosexual man who asked him about the same thing who stated to him "The idea that Lincoln might have been gay is very important for many people in my community." Foote just told him, "If you want to think he was gay, then you should." The young man pressed him for a definite answer and all foote would give him was "back then it wouldn't* seem strange to anyone that 2 men slept together".

I used to have this notion that the 1800s were, morally, like the 50s but on steroids or something like that. I'm not so sure anymore.

EDIT: Misspelled a word

CERN

Wow, that's crazy. I knew it was lower back then, but not that low.