Dr. Steve Pieczenic : THEY ARE GOING DOWN SCREAMING LIKE DYING ALEPHANTS! ( pizzagate )

submitted by samhara

They are going down. Screaming like dying Alephants .

""This is a fact. This is de facto. They can't change anything. What your seeing. If they want to attempt anything what you are seeing is the screaming and the outcry of dying people. It's like elephants in a graveyard. They are screaming. They are yelling. They are ineffectual. They are eunuchs. We've done what we had to do and no one is going to change that. I can assure you. No one will change that. "

Pieczenic says they are going to fire people. Go to minute 14 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25XFMRr74rA -"

He just uses "Alex Jones" show as a mouth piece. He represents the people who released the emails, who made sure Hillary didn't win etc. -

tudda

You have my attention in regards to Pieczenik's role. Care to elaborate for me? Was not an alex jones or Steve P listener until just recently.

LawofTruth

I hope, but will not feel satisfied unless some high level people not only get laid off, but are also punished for their crimes. Podesta and family locked up, Hillary locked away, Alefantis and Brock locked up. Obama probably should be.

Also, here's a link to the full Alex Jones show that this interview with Steve P. aired. If you got to 2:24 minutes in AJ talks about pizzagate specifically but this time isn't back-pedaling.

ScientiaPotentia

OH MY GOD SHUT UP JONES!!!! Let the guy talk and don't direct the conversation!

DeathToMasons

Pieczenic is misleading here. I see what he is doing. Most of what he is saying is outstanding. But remember, he is an ex spook. There are no ex spooks IMO. His role here, is to say we won, the fight is over, the new day is starting. There is no proof of this. He says the dollar Is strong and the stock market is great. I won't get into this here in detail, but Central Banks are buying 100's of billions in US stocks. Investors mostly left and it is a phony market that they will intentionally pull the plug on. He doesn't mention that the corporate elites and the globalist Masons still control the media, politicians, state police, intelligence agencies etc etc. This game of lies, deception and murder and possibly war and collapse are not stopped IMO. Steve would have you think Trump is in, they are out. I don't buy it. Back to Pizzagate....

BethesdaDC

Drain CIA SWAMP!

0xFFF

He is always preaching "do your own research and don't believe me"

dustyr

I hope you're correct.

ejd4500

Steve Pieczenik knows his sh!t. #biggerthanpizzagate

AdamSKestle

Show me a head so I can crack open my victory gin

crystalclearme

Mine is a bottle of bubbly

Infopractical

Do not be overconfident at all. There are many people who don't know how to work through details about politics and simply must dedicate themselves to a direction. Others are too scared to follow the story. Some don't know where to go from the Democratic Party because they really never imagined all this.

Keep working. Respect the challenge of good investigation and persuasion. Do not assume everyone who doesn't see it is an enemy. Do your best to reevaluate what you understand. Do your best.

grlldcheese

Dude, Pieczenik is not directly connected, but he's claiming to be representing the insiders. That means the leakers and imo, FBIanon. Trump's straight joking about trafficking in Haiti. It's not exactly concrete documented connections, but it is what it is. And it's the kind of nonsense that has kept this entire thing going throughout the election and into now. Denying that at this point is silly.

When some anon promised big things at 11am back at the end of October, 2 things actually happened that day between 11 and 12. One was the FBI vault Twitter account which verified their 4chan awareness and shouted out to Trump, then dropped the CF documents and old cases.

The other was Pieczenik claiming the insider coup and predicting the election dynamic.

It's a small stretch, but I think Pieczenik deserves a permanent pass if only for political context. I suppose it fits a bit better in TD, but i believe this sub will regret barring Pieczeniks insanity when everything's said and done. We are getting most of the evidence on a platter at someone's discretion. I hate to admit it, but he's the most credible representative. Even though he's a Kissinger era CFR fuck.

Edit: oct not aug

FR33D0M

Anyone else start laughing when the person helping Pieczenic put stuff all over the camera in an attempt to cut glare? XD

shaboyi999

Likely his wife, "I am so used to old man talking crap."

pizzaequalspedo

And then proceeded to fumble around with the blinds for 2 minutes

samhara

Not the most professional news, as most are accustomed. More like a Internets News, which is what I am used to anyway. "Content not Form", just as , "Principles before Personalities"

cdglow

I think some of the weirdness around his behavior is a deliberate kind of assassination insurance. As long as the mainstream can successfully portray Jones as unhinged, then there's no reason for him to ever be suicided even if he somehow gets 100% of his news right because he can easily be portrayed as crazy to normals.

If Jones mellowed out and developed a calmer temperament and worked on his mainstream appeal then he might actually be taken out somehow.

Infowars isn't perfect, but it's a lot closer to the truth than the traditional media.

shillcrusher13

This is probably right-on... I met him years ago (when he was showing "9/11: The Road To Tyranny" in Katy, TX) and he was super-rational, calm, and collected. A very nice guy actually. And then you see him flipping out on TV, and it's like, who is this other person? The idea of it being a deliberate act seems certain, but I never thought of that as a reason... makes sense really. I think Jones is on the right track for the most part.

snr2snt2000

Alex is top dog. Simple.

samhara

done.

samhara

Dr. P, in this interview, claims a lot of these people are going to be laid off.

doubletake

i hear that hemp jobs might be opening up pretty soon. that other stuff, too.

samhara

From your keyboard to g-d's ear.

asdfghjkl123456789

there will be very serious consequences that he won't specify.

Violence, I'm assuming.

samhara

I didn't hear him imply that. We will see.

NotOfIt

This guy appears to know what he is talking about. My concern, he is not an elected person. Is democracy going to be restored? Free speech? There is an important place for an independent media. Reverse on protesting restrictions? What about extensive Clinton Foundation crimes & #pizzagate atrocities? Will this just be a different sort of oppression?

User890020

He has a great youtube channel...

samhara

There won't be need to censor. Why censor? Even when it's right in front of people they can't figure it out. He did imply the people behind all this, he described them, were pissed over the 9/11, which BTW was an occult ritual.

NotOfIt

The disinfo thru MSM is criminal if what is reported in alt media is true (9/11, moon landing, Sandy Hook, etc). We can't assume until there are official investigations and findings reported. All we know now is that we don't know what really happened. Need to censer would happen if Trump retaliates against unfavorably reporting news companies. It would be abuse of his power and wrong, but could happen.

samhara

You don't need the State News to approve what you think or know. Yes, they are big perps. It's already proved right in front of anyone who bothers to look . Any one with a computer and the ability to read, has no excuse. And in this case, the public also colludes. "We don't know what really happened" just is not true. Write for yourself.

They use persuasion and mind control They study hypnosis and NLP. All those things go into why no one will accept the evidence.. And has to be told what is true by the Propaganda authority.

NotOfIt

An independent media is exactly *not state news. Investigative reporters have certain professional standards for reporting that public can trust is true. Like 2 corroborating sources. Sure I can read on line amateur reports but cannot trust them entirely. Esp. when rest of country still zombies!

samhara

I see. But all investigative reporters that I know of, who are paid professionals. are corrupt. And also, they will be the first to tell you "Investigative Journalism is dead." That is why the amateurs have taken over the field. There is a vacuum, filled by something we experience here "Crowd Sourced Investigation';" and other amateurs. The main problem for researchers is not the research itself, but it is the fact, if you have good research, you are banned from all the Forums.

samhara

He said that what I call "State News" and others call "Mainstream Media" is going the way of the dinosaur and that what we call the Alt. Media now, will be the Media.

NotOfIt

The fact that MSM outlets are owned by about 6 corporations is not going to change. Trump has been somewhat antagonistic against news sources that weren't favorable. Is he going to control the media too? Is he going to break up the media monopolies? Not clear how he will respect free speech.

pizzaequalspedo

He will bypass them. They're very fearful of that as well.

samhara

It's like after the Soviet Republic fell they got rid of PRAVDA.. right?

samhara

Trump is not somewhat antagonistic. He called them all liars to their faces.

NotOfIt

Well he sure has that right, but he does not have right to do what HC did-- censoring of all data that would be unfavorable to her. He can sue for libel, etc. but I think I read he was refusing access to certain publications that had been unfavorable.

samhara

They need to have their licenses revoked. New people can come forward to get licenses. But Dr. P said what we now call the "Alt Media" would become the Media.

SpikyAube

Why does Alex Jones interrupt people all the time, it's so annoying!! It makes me cringe. Especially when he repeats what his guest has said but in a different way. Argh.

doubletake

AJ's an asshole who loves his own voice. and he's an asshole. he's not alone, by any means, he's just the worst. he was sure quiet for that arab guy from Comet, though.

TokyoJoe

Can't listen to him anymore because of it, quite a few times it seemed intentional because he didn't want certain truths to get out.

0xFFF

Can you elaborate? An example?

mvrak

People are slow and not necessarily clear with their own thoughts.

--> watch some PhDs argue about scientific research some time. It is that x100 and everyone stays friends.

MeeestaTraumaLlama

I love the guy. But he ALWAYS interrupts right at the very key punchline.

User890020

He's still acting like before he was this big.

whitehand

Some people think it is some disinfo strategy so the people who get interviewed can't talk. Honestly I think he is legit. He is totally ADD and can't control all the simultaneous thoughts he has going on at once so he blurts them out and interrupts. I do the same thing accidentally. It is just part of my personality. I know people like to hate on him because he is getting so popular but he has gotten popular because of his accuracy.

SpikyAube

Yeah I get the impression he's genuine, he is just way too riled up and passionate to not actually believe in what he's saying. I just don't think a person could go on some of the long, red-faced rants he goes on if there wasn't real rage in there.

samhara

He's a vary good actor. He holds his audience in contempt.

thatguyiam

Alex Jones thinks only his conspiracy is true. He is a plant by the elite, to try to subvert the movement. His role in the future is the same as the msm role now

https://voat.co/v/Worldnews/1462899/7073176

ZalesMcMuffin

I think so too. He's being positioned by Big Media and by his guests as THE guy in the alt-media. It's certainly the case that he's put a ton of time and energy into putting himself into that position, but I don't trust him at all.

Just stay on your toes. That's the bottom line.

samhara

I know. I wrote this in comments on the vid. I turned it up to 2x's speed and then it's really obvious; and you don't have to spend all day on this.. phew.

Stop interrupting. "Jones" is so annoying. He's worse than Amy Goodman (not that she interrupts but that she holds the floor and talks so slow you lose the sense before you fall asleep - another technique to water - down info rather than deliver it]. I can't stand how "Jones" keeps interrupting him . It's not about you "Jones" Learn to take an interview. What an egoist. Everyone knows what you say because you repeat and you are a bombast.. This is the man sent out to give a report on WTFIGO so let him talk. Damn

asdfghjkl123456789

He's trying to put on a show, and make himself look good. That's his whole gameplan, drop SOME of the truth (but not all of it), and put on a clown show so new people find it "funny" to look up "conspiracy theories."

Raps1

I listened to him in the early 2000s. I followed up on some of his "documented" claims and found him mischaracterizing the wording in government documents and realized he was just sensationalizing to promote fear and draw people towards him. Once he had managed that, he had an enterprise to protect which kept him from going in certain directions.

All these guys have one major flaw, they become married to their theories. They make the mistake of tying up their credibility and ego into the integrity of their theory and will guard it all costs. At that point every new bit of information has to pass through the filter of that theory. In other words; they continue, but remain myopic and never come to a complete understanding, and neither do their audience.

If you ever want to see Alex pushed beyond his capabilities into collapse, check his interview with David Duke. Alex has some strong points, but a lightning quick intellect and verbal IQ aren't among them.

witch_doctor1

On the other hand, he has been saying that our government is being run by pedosatanists before it was cool to say that our government is being run by pedosatanists. Just reminded me..need to buy a water filter and freeze dried food.

Raps1

...and before him, William Cooper with his "Hour of the Time" broadcasts. Who also played off fear, but did it with a bit more flair and no idiocy.

Time for a vodka and Tangy Tangerine.

asdfghjkl123456789

Things like that are how I know he's not a total shill.

blind_sypher

but he's still benefitting us on the whole. He might not be perfect and some of the stuff he does is ridiculous but even if he has secretive owners or whatever he still draws the right crowd and feeds them the right things to get them rallied behind the greater good. I wouldnt complain.

Raps1

Quantitatively, I agree with you. He has brought about a general awareness with much more success than anyone before him, or since. I'm not sure about the quality of the following, but I see Infowars stickers on bumpers from time to time.

On the other hand, his over-the-top frothing doesn't appeal to the crowd who can actually make a difference. Storing food and putting your family in debt over firearm purchases does little to change government and society in general. Pro Tip: That arsenal, when barricaded in your home, is worthless against a few well-placed molotov cocktails.

I don't think Jones is compromised in any real way short of the self-censoring he does to protect his brand. I'm not really complaining, just wish someone else would arise that appealed to the more educated. His buffoonery is his own undoing.

mysecretidentity

He is a CIA shill. works for stratfor

0xFFF

Then Stratford works for us. Cause I know no one who woke more people up that heim. He was talking about the satanic cult elite back when you were shitting in your diapers...

ZalesMcMuffin

Look up "controlled opposition" and read up, including what the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" say about it (and I'm not arguing the Protocols were or weren't legit; that's a huge debate).

0xFFF

Well I stand my point, if AJ is controlled opposition it is the worst attempt of controlling your opposition ever. Cause no one I know helped growing the opposition more then him.

ZalesMcMuffin

lol you didn't read sheeeeit, dawg

0xFFF

ok let me clarify, i know no one that woke up more people form MSM dream, giving alternative viewpoints on contemporary history, while always educating people to do their own research, not to trust him.

The "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" do not disprove my claim. If you think they do, please elaborate.

Boud8814

That was a great interview, hat's off to Steve P

dickface8

Elephantis