ads1241

Sadly this is how it will go:

  1. Register charity

  2. Russian hackers plant CP on charity computers

  3. We get arrested for meddling in the US elections cuz CP

crystalclearme

very interesting and good to know thanks

e-traiu

Its a good idea to use more mainstream aknowledged handles like #humatrafficking and simmilar. And instead use #pizzagate as a secondary #. So that we dont scare away normies.

pmichel

I think we need a way to unite, conect, in real time.

jonnythaiwongy9

Have to agree, charities are immediatley target for co-option by the very movements they are against.

SavingGrace

Too bad charities now have such a shockingly bad name, thanks to the criminal Clinton Foundation et al...

momojaja

We dont need no charity and we dont need more money as there is a risk of someone misusing any resources we may acquire.

Votescam

Don't know where to put these concerns, so I'll try it here -- One of the first things I thought of re CF was about its ties to UN, especially because they've had pedophile problems with troops. But also we've had the barbell death of John Ashe who was believed to be going to testify against HRC. http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/death-by-barbell-sparks-questions-about-hillary-silencing-people/

John Ashe, UN official It’s because Ashe was scheduled to testify in just days with Chinese businessman and co-defendant Ng Lap Seng, who was accused of smuggling $4.5 million into the U.S. and lying that it was to buy casino chips and more.

The New York Post said Ng earlier was identified in a 1998 Senate document “as the source of hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally funneled through an Arkansas restaurant owner, Charlie Trie, to the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration.”

“One source told me,” Johnson wrote, “‘During the trial, the prosecutors would have linked Ashe to the Clinton bagman Ng. It would have been very embarrassing. His death was conveniently timed.” The Post said Ashe formerly was the head of the U.N. General Assembly and was facing criminal charges in a federal bribery case.

He was from the Caribbean nation of Antigua and Barbuda, and was accused of taking kickbacks in exchange for promises for real-estate deals and more, the report said.

And this video I tried to absorb last night -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCTzFNrsKns Think they found Eric Braverman at Yale -- but a lot of connections mentioned, money laundering drugs/guns the constant connection. It's BS "Regime Change" for profit that is also driving the refugee situation. Catastrophe capitalism. It all looks like a package deal.

Also someone mentioned "The Finder's Cult" and read a good bit about it last night -- comes back to CIA. Finders Cult http://www.thepeopleshistory.net/2014/03/the-finders-cult.html

The Story of the CIA's "Finder's Abduction Operation" The CIA Traffics in Drugs, Child Ritual Sexual Abuse, and Global Murder http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusemurder.shtml

doubletake

ditto

reasonedandinformed

#SaveTheKids

Pizza-related-sap

Very smart.

crystalclearme

Or here's an org I just happened upon (not endorsing just looking at myself) a bit from their about page "a nonpartisan, independent media organization comprised of individuals and groups working to expose corruption worldwide. Founded by Luke Rudkowski, We Are Change is comprised of independent journalists, concerned citizens, activists, and anyone who wants to shape the direction our world is going in. We seek to expose the lies of governments and the corporate elite who constantly trash our humanity...." http://wearechange.org/about/

WhyDo

You need to stop letting mods control the narrative..

http://sli.mg/T8aNLY

(SCREENSHOTS) /Pizzagate is censoring and banning any mention of Jewish Khaballism, which is Satanism. IT'S A SUBVERSE TO INVESTIGATE SATANISM, yet any mention of the Jewish role in it is CENSORED.

SpikyAube

There's nothing useful about pointing out that some people involved in this are Jewish, because there are loads of people involved in it who are not Jewish, and loads of Jewish people that are not involved in it. So it just isn't at all helpful or relevant to the investigation.

WhyDo

Pizzagate is Judaism. Jewish Khaballism is Satanism and pedophila.

This is an organized group that engages in acts of Satanism and pedophila.

Pedophila is part of Judaism and so is Satanism.

Votescam

Should have been called Podesta-gate -- pizzagate is unfortunate.

doubletake

Change Pizzagate to some other name??? That’s the worse thing at this stage of the campaign. If you change it here, will they change it elsewhere? you divide, you’re conquered. Pizzagate Is Perfect! Not in describing what this is all about, but from the gut level reaction when somebody clueless first discovers what ‘pizza’ refers to. It is that shocking ripple of disgust and horror, an unforgettable moment. From Innocence To Darkness in a skipped heartbeat. Pizza will never be the same again. It’s a keeper. AND it links immediately to the “FBI decoder data,” something that has to be emphasized over and over — it is THE credibility enhancer, your million dollar “sound byte reference.” Anyway, it’s only the title for Part 1. Part 2 is coming up, and the name is so much more relevant to the real problem: Weinergate, on a thumbdrive near you, soon i hope.

What more can you do than raise a red flag? Granted the red flag for Pizzagate is about the size of Mt Everest; the amount of production that comes out of this boiler room alone is monumental! You’ve become an organized directory for one of the most horrific scandals of all time, involving just about everyone who matters among the 1%!! … That’s the target. … Royalty, Bankers, Vatican, Politicians, ex-Secretary of States, their traffickers and all their enabling minions, including the MSM who is covering for them (esp thompson)… You are shotgunning them from 10,000 directions at once. Pretty fuquing awesome. The Mission is not a choice: save children from monsters. Period. No bullshit. No memory hole. Distilling the best evidence. Maybe Interpol could use your help, if they’re not already here.

LawofTruth

Can others upVOAT this comment as I did. We need to stick to #pizzagate because it's the direct trail to our movement and specifically John Podesta's emails where are movement was born. No matter how cheesy it sounds (no pun intended) #pizzagate will help newcomers find and uncover the trail we've already digged into. We can't change from #pizzagate.

BerksResident

Very well put. Pizzagate encapsulates the moment when decent normal people realise that celebrities/CIA/politicians etc have OPENLY bragged about their love of paedophilia.

dogeminho

This seems like a good idea.

Rigg5

Let's get Melania Trump in on this!

SpikyAube

I am willing to help! Are you going to set it up?

I think it would be good to have some kind of slogan, one that people could wear as a little badge or something, to get people asking about it. That's what the abolitionists did I believe, they had a slogan which was 'Am I not a man and a brother?' and it was put on a round blue badge with a picture of a slave under it. Maybe we could come up with something similar, to sort of draw attention to the parallels - that slavery really is still going on, it's still being perpetuated by rich elites who profit from it, but this time it's done in secret and involves also making children into sex slaves.

Not sure what the slogan for this could be. Maybe something like ' Could it be true? INVESTIGATE' to try to point out to people that if there's even a tiny chance it could be true that children are being abused and trafficked horribly in this way by people in our own governments, even the tiniest chance , then it's worth investigating, surely? If there's nothing going on, no harm done, right? But if there IS, then thank God we did bring it to light so it could be stopped and children could be saved... Also 'Could it be true? INVESTIGATE' could include a relevant picture, perhaps one of those horrible paintings Podesta has of a kid looking really abused, so that when asked, people can also point out where that picture actually comes from, making people more likely to realise that indeed it could be true.

Forgetmenot

I have had the same idea except I am not really creative. A badge of some sort would make this cause visual and start conversations. During the children's labor movement the activists used brooms as their symbols. Breast cancer awareness wears a pink ribbon. I am so glad people are thinking about how to grow this movement. This would really help.

SpikyAube

This is why an organisation would be good, cos we need something that will sort things out, like finding someone to design a badge, making sure the badges get made, selling and distributing the badges etc.

Forgetmenot

I am willing to help too. Maybe a magnifying glass signifying how we are investigating the pedofiles?

dookiehowzer

good idea, organize it establish it and ill donate

samhara

I think it's a bad idea. Especially from someone only 3 days on.

Most charities go very bad

If you have a charity, you have to have people watching it.

Do you realize all the ringers, shills and trolls just on this Forum, with no money involved? Alex Jones did this. He made himself the receptacle for the 9/11 Truth money. And look what he did with that.

Also the anti -FED movement "Occupy Wall St. " guess what happened to all that money?

.. "CHARITY": It's almost a bad word once you learn enough.

Such a monied org is a very bad idea at this point in time ; Everyone will give to this cause.. It's a money generator for sure.. Just as the money poured in for "Sandy Hook" and all that. Since children are involved , who could be against it.

I just had a nightmare: We could accidently have some pedos running the anti - Pedo charity. Isn't that what they do? Get themselves in the right spot... ? Phew. bad idea.

Raising money for a particular expense , such as hiring a PI [guess what most of them are owned and corrupted] Or just financing someone known here to do some research - Now that's an Idea. But any money raised should be attached to an actual expenditure, that can be tested for accomplishment; And should not be open ended.

Most money given to "Charity" just finances an administration. We should be specific goal orientated.

asdfghjkl123456789

I think private investigators are probably the most important thing to focus on right now. People that can travel, conduct interviews, and get beyond just internet sources.

Picard

The shills tried hard to do this back during Gamergate. This is a very bad idea as part of the power is anonymity and a charity or real organization removes that safeguard. Not only that allows for the shills to subvert control and use that the shut down dicussion.

So yeah lets a single organization that these people can then sue for slander. Sounds like a great idea. Won't just be another atheism+!

TruthTrumps

Good post. Made me delete my previous one agreeing with the suggestion.

Pizza-related-sap

Agreed, a big one-time thing would be best, as charities reek of corruption, to me anyway.

SpikyAube

Yeah absolutely, there shouldn't be just a receptacle for money, if there is an organisation it should be more about putting donors in touch with investigators or lawyers or viral marketing specialists or whoever with the skills to actually carry out a piece of work, or set up a dedicated website for pulling all the information together, or to produce pins/t-shirts/hats or whatever for people to wear to spread the message, or buy ad space in a paper or on a billboard or on TV or something, but not actually take any money 'for the organisation.'

samhara

Yes, it should always be for a particular purpose / job. Doing an ad campaign for something totally outside the normal frame / context of how people see things is not easy. It's a long study to know how to do it correctly.

SpikyAube

How would you do it do you think? What kind of thing?

tjarco

First thought after reading title: brilliant, let's go!

Second thought: I think this is about much more than just childtrafficking.

Final thought: It is too early and there has been too little conscencus on what Pizzagate really is, or what everyone is 'hunting' here. If we start a charity I'm not sure if I would be satisfied if only stopping child-abuse (how great that would be) is the greatest goal. Pizzagate is exposing the top of the pyramid. The elite that seems to be up to some wicked shit and is getting away with. So in short Charity: YES!. The labels: NO! Let Pizzagate be Pizzagate untill it's clear what the mess exactly is.

*The tagline of v/pizzagte = investigating corruption

webofslime

"The White March" was when 250,000 Belgians protested in front of the palace in Belgium after the Dutroux Affair exposed a massive cover up.

A sustained "White March" movement would be a very powerful thing.

InfiltratingAuditing

This

crystalclearme

Yes Yes Yes THIS. I mentioned it to someone else when we were somehow talking about if this gets swept away when Trump takes office. I also know I have been looking at diff orgs to volunteer with regards to human trafficking and I have to say a sad part of Pizzagate is realizing the people looking to help are possibly truly organized danger and should be exposed themselves. I wonder if perhaps more locally organized groups where we know one another and can vet one another might be useful. Although Pizzagate has been useful .. I have to agree I think we have outgrown it and need to change it somehow. No great ideas except yes I firmly believe in "The White March" idea. I also find myself now using #eyeswideopen . I don't know if it is associated with any other "cause" but it certainly seems to cover a lot of bases when it comes to the money laundering, corruption, blackmaril, satanism/occult, power elite circles, and not being blind to the trafficking and atrocities that have occurred in my lifetime.

Forgetmenot

I like it

justiceforever

Very nice idea! Perhaps we should wait until after the inauguration. There's a chance the FBI might investigate this...could be wishful thinking.. .But a charity is risky and might be better for if things aren't going our way later.

asdfghjkl123456789

I respectfully disagree. We know that all levels of law enforcement and intelligence have been compromised in various ways. We need some non-governmental organizations to engage in resistance.

justiceforever

Point noted. I guess I'm also thinking of Milo being told "not yet", and stuff like that. But I see what you mean too.

Investigate1999

We don't need a charity. This will only expose our private lives and put us in danger. It is also a lot of work.

Also, I don't trust people, who run charities. They aren't held accountable to normal people. Charities are corporations.

Pizza-related-sap

How about a compromise? Those that wish to remain anonymous, no problem, I certainly don't blame you with these murderous bastards running about. I'm already "All in", and really don't give a shit if anyone knows my real name. Fuck them.

Investigate1999

It's good that we have you to pay for your time, but I can't trust you any more than I trust the CIA.

Pizza-related-sap

Pay me? Wtf are you babbling about?

Investigate1999

Well, you offered to be in the charity, if I understand you correctly, so paying you as a charity employee seems like an expense and a challenging task.

Never mind, though. Hopefully, this charity idea won't have enough support.

Pizza-related-sap

I only meant to participate, not to be involved. The extent of my participation would be spreading it across social media, and donating.

Investigate1999

Oh, I see. In that case, that's cool.

We'd still need to find full time workers, though, and that would be a challenge to give oversight to them while remaining anonymous.

Pizza-related-sap

I thought it would be a brilliant tactic to be able to show people that we're more than just "keyboard warriors," but I wholeheartedly agree that organized charities are messy.

Investigate1999

Well, maybe there is some hybrid idea that can organize us temporarily. I can't think of anything at the moment, but if we can avoid the legal requirements of setting up a charity, then there are options there.

Picard

Shill

Pizza-related-sap

I've been commenting on Facebook, YouTube, twitter, and now voat (the only anonymous one) for weeks. I hardly give a damn at this point about anonymity, Shill!

Picard

That's fine for you, but the only reason why these gates exist is due to anonymity. What you support is a shill idea that is very old.

happy_snek

Centralization of efforts reveals identities. Revealed identities results in people vomiting up black fluid and dying, self-inflicted gunshots to the back of the head, and so forth. Decentralization, speaking with a bunch of semi-anonymous faces, is much safer for everyone.

Calls for centralization may be honeypots. Stay frosty, practice safe OPSEC.

asdfghjkl123456789

I agree. But there are ways to protect OPSEC with something like this.

Hopevoats

I posted this before (on the old PG, I think). The name I came up with was "National Organization for Child Predator Prevention" - NO CPP

wgvdl

"International Organisation..." if you would be so kind.

Hopevoats

I tried to work that in, but It looked like "10 CPP". Then I thought of Global, but that was GO CPP, which sounds like we are are their side. Still needs work...

hanknut42

Call us the Brock Blockers

Phobos_Mothership

This is actually brilliant. One thing that NEVER gets censored is the good-old-american dollar.

MenaAirport

Finally! Yes been thinking this for a while now. How would we ensure that no moles are able to join? But yes someone who knows the web inside out should create a webpage linking all the investigators together. Then fill site with organized data of investigation. If we can get some people in the judicial system to help that'd be a good start. Also any one famous would help. Lawyers as well. Bottom line is we are very limited to uniting if we just have forums like this. We need to organize a movement.

asdfghjkl123456789

I've genuinely thought about setting up some kind of formal organization. Solicit donors, and pay some staff to investigate these things full-time and report on it.

UglyTruth

There's nothing to stop you from doing this, but the main problem is trust, i,.e. how can the donors trust you to carry out your promises?