UglyTruth

What do you think was great about it?

GermanynamreG

Pizzagate is about a deathcult that uses satanic symbolism, soi dont get why the mod denies that

Crensch

Tell me how harping about satanism or judaism or islam will help get these particular childfuckers/traffickers caught.

@Phobos_Mothership

spookybm

So... if you were banned from PizzaGate.. how are you posting now?
An Alt account? .. I remember in the "other site" you'd get a permaban for avoiding a single ban.

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

That has nothing to do with pizzagate, and that would be considered sexual assault if I did that to a girl I didn't know.

UglyTruth

Straw man. You lose.

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

Well we'll see...

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

Disprove a single sourced fact I've presented and I'll never post this information again.

Deal?

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

Do you notice how nobody can attack the information?

They're just calling people shills... Unbelievable.

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

You are KingKong.

Cantilever

Quit spamming our board with your nonsense, faggot

Baluga

Your comments expose yourself; I agree with the words the mods gave you. The question is who does what and where. Specifically. General statements about a religion don't answer that question. So PLEASE, give up.

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

Disprove a single sourced fact I've presented and I'll never post this information again.

Deal?

Why can't anybody disprove the information?

Baluga

Because there is nothing in your thread that's even important.

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

Says who? You?

Tell me how identifying the organizational structure behind Satanism and pedophila is irrelevant to investigating Satanism and pedophila? This is the root of all of it. This is their organizational structure.

Pizzagate is Jewish Khaballism. That's all there is to man.

Tell Epstein that Jewish Khaballism has nothing to do with this shit..

Baluga

Tell me how anything you write helps us find and convict anybody.

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

It shows you the people at the core of everything. The people you're investigating are Khaballists.

How fucking stupid are you?

Baluga

the people are Khabalists. Okay. What next.

UglyTruth

No, @TrumpFUCKsIvanka is full of shit.

Baluga

(I know.)

UglyTruth

What do you think is so great about them?

UglyTruth

Judaism permits paedophilia.

No it doesn't. The verses that endorse sex with children are from the Talmud, not from the Torah.

It's no different than Islam in that sense"

The Quran doesn't permit paedophilia either. The "pedo prophet" story is from the Hadith, and is reputed by the earliest biography of Muhammad.

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

You know that Rabbis who instruct Torah Jews study the Talmud right? You know that Talmudic doctrine is Rabbinical Judaism right? Do you know that the most advanced Rabbis are selected to study Khaballism?

Why are you a fucking liar?

Thanks, because now everybody knows you're a fucking liar too.

UglyTruth

You know that Rabbis who instruct Torah Jews study the Talmud right?

Of course.

You know that Talmudic doctrine is Rabbinical Judaism right?

Yes, it's part of it.

Do you know that the most advanced Rabbis are selected to study Khaballism?

It would make sense.

Why are you a fucking liar?

I'm not lying, shit-fer-brains.

TrumpFUCKsIvanka

Who do Torah Jews listen to? Their Rabbis right? What do Rabbis study? They study Rabbinical Judaism AKA the Talmud.

What now?

UglyTruth

No, Karaite Jews reject the Talmud and they don't listen to the Rabbis.

TrumpSoldOut

@phobos_mothership

Censor this one too. You're giving me lots of ammo. I'm also going to expose you for modding under multiple alts.

UglyTruth

You haven't even shown how he was lying like you said he was.

FoxMcCloud11

Share your content on steemit, 4chan, reddit.. wherever, or post on another sub here. If what you are uncovering has weight - it'll find its way to the top. Concentrate on your search.

TrumpSoldOut

The information is being suppressed by the mods. We need to migrate to another sub where mods can't decide what we can see.

@armyseer

You're talking out your ass.

Listen, disprove a single sourced fact I've presented and I'll never post this information again. Deal?

FoxMcCloud11

I personally think there is satanism involved here. There is a "spiritual" aspect or origin to this behavior. Talk of "anti-semitism" and CTR may have them on their toes.

TrumpSoldOut

Well the mod said we aren't allowed to talk about Satanism.. You know why? Because it leads to Jewish Khaballism.

John_The_Watchman

I think you should focus on the aspects of Khaballism which tie into ritual sacrifice, child abuse and sexual deviancy (as these all relate to Pizzagate) and forget the J word. Just my 2 cents. Aleister Crowley is a good start in "liber 777".

UglyTruth

In what way do you think that Crowley's stuff related to Jewish esoterica?

John_The_Watchman

The most 'in your face' example is Crowley's repeated referencing of the 10 Sephirot, a Kabbalistic idea. Then if you look at some of the rituals he draws out it becomes obvious rather quickly that Hebrew symbols are being used extensively. There is much, much more, but I suspect you may have already read Crowleys works and know this...

UglyTruth

OK, how do you think the 10 sephirot tie into ritual sacrifice, child abuse and sexual deviancy?

John_The_Watchman

I see what you did there....

You asked me how I believe Crowley is related to Jewish Esoteria and I gave an example which demonstrates exactly that. I also suspect you already knew this and now you are just playing games. If not, please forgive me - all this thread deleting has me on edge.

UglyTruth

Sorry, I should have started with the second question. I'm not that familiar with Crowley, what I'm trying to establish here is whether on not it's legitimate to associate Kaballah with Satanism.

John_The_Watchman

No, I am sorry - I feel like i have to wear some thick armor around here lately and don't mean to take it out on you for asking a legit question.

What I can tell you is that my research has definitively linked the two - but without me providing a solid chunk of proof to that effect I am afraid my explanations will be wasted. Therefore I am in the process of writing a well sourced, well researched expose which includes but is not limited to this topic. (One of the reasons I was really hesitant to jump into this thread is that it's not just Kaballah which is linked to Satanism but in fact ALL major religions which have a "circle within a circle" which are heavily into the same symbolisms, beliefs and practices which all find their roots in ancient mesopotamia and egypt. They all follow a similar pattern (attaining god-hood/acencion thru science, knowledge and magic). This is essentially the Luciferian doctrine. I promise I will do my best to write quickly. I feel this topic has not been adequately explored and it is quite a doozy of a topic to tackle. Christians are just as heavily implicated - its not about just one culture or religion, that's the scary part.

John_The_Watchman

Here is another example of Crowley relating to Kaballah.

There is an occult book called "The lesser Keys of Solomon" which deals with the rituals required for invoking/evoking Judaic/Christian demons and angels. The portion of the book related to the rituals is known as the "Ars Goetia". This portion of the work was later translated by S.L. MacGregor Mathers and published by Aleister Crowley under the title The Book of the Goetia of Solomon the King. Crowley added some additional invocations previously unrelated to the original work, as well as essays describing the rituals as psychological exploration instead of demon summoning. Here is a picture from the Goetia ritual with the names of the angels/demons listed on the side along with their Hebrew names and a great deal of other symbolism.

https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.shroomery.org%2Ffiles%2F14-34%2F862833959-GOETIA2.gif&sp=2295c766b5e0ecf94707e7123a11d1ed

This is just one more example of a crossover between Christianity/Judaism and the Occult/Satanism/Hermeticism/Thelema/Mystery Religions/Crowley.

You will find shortly after going down this path that the parellels between occult religions and popular religions are quite terrifying. There is a very specific reason why these things are intertwined in such a way, which I will get into during my expose.

UglyTruth

No problem. In a nutshell Satanism is an adversarial relationship, typically involving deity. The opposite of this is unity, typically expressed as Elohim. The distinction between Hebrew and Egyptian esoterica traces back to Abraham. AFAIK Egyptian myth never incorporated the Early Hebrew ideas about the relationship between language and consciousness (as hinted at by Kaballah).

John_The_Watchman

I must admit that I am not a Kabbalist so already your discussion about language/conciousness in that context is a bit over my head. What I am good at is recognizing patterns. As you likely know, according to most accounts Mesopotamia and Egypt were the first large scale civilizations. What I intend to demonstrate is that there is a pattern of a high priesthood in these civilizations as well as in Judaism (Qabbalists) who all follow a similar game plan not just in the same deities they worship under different names but also in their symbology, ideals, practices and beliefs. So there is an esoteric link between these three groups (and many others I have not mentioned), is what I am asserting, but they have roots which pre-date the flood and they have propagated through ought history under various names, religions, etc, yet there is a unified goal they share which is not so obvious.

UglyTruth

Technically Egypt wasn't a civilized society, the civil system originated in Rome. https://voat.co/v/OccidentalEnclave/1479865

The fundamental difference between Egyptian religion and Judaism is monotheism, i.e. it's not accurate to say that they worshiped the same deities. AFAIK the Egyptians never learned on the esoteric knowledge of the Hebrews, so I'm skeptical that any unified goal exists.

John_The_Watchman

I guess I should have chosen my words better, but I think you know what I meant so I won't dwell on that further. It is clear to me that you have a good knowledge of this topic so what you really need is ample proof to back up my assertions about the esoteric link between the three groups in question. I am in the process of revealing this, along with a great deal of related info in my sourced expose but it requires a good amount of reading and this (now defunct) thread is probably not the best place for that. But, I DO want to give you a quick idea of what I am talking about so I would ask you to check out this ritual from the horses own mouth - so to speak. Sekhet-Maat Lodge represents Ordo Templi Orientis in Oregon. Aleister Crowley was the most famous member of the OTO, and was even a 'grand master' of sorts for the organization. When visiting this page it should become very obvious how much egyptian symbolism is involved there. Now I would like to direct your attention to the Equinox Ritual of the Serpent lord, found here: http://sekhetmaat.com/wiki/Rituals/Equinox_Ritual_of_the_Serpent_Lord Notice the references to Qaballah? They are quite prominent. It would also be wise to note that according to qabbalists: "The way of the serpent is the way of gnosis, mysticism and self-transformation. It is known as the way of return as it is by this path that the individual returns to their original spiritual nature. It is the journey inwards to find the true and immortal Self. " http://www.webofqabalah.com/serpent.html . Does this sound like a familiar theme to you? Lucifer himself was represented and referenced as a Serpent multiple times. Serpent symbolism is prolific in occult writings, ideas and symbolism. Take the Hermetic Caduceus, as an example. Or the Ouroboros.

These things on the surface seem wholly different. But I assure you there are esoteric links between the three groups I mention.

I will explain the discrepancy vs mono/polytheistic in my expose as that is a point that deserves addressing, but is not exactly what I was talking about.

UglyTruth

The point I'm trying to get at is that one of the defining characteristics of Hebrew identity is of being set-apart. The word here is qodesh, which is translated as "holy". I agree that there are some common esoteric elements, eg the serpent, but that doesn't mean that they share a common philosophy. Universalism is more a feature of the humansim of the west.

John_The_Watchman

I would like to carefully point out that what I am referring to is not Judaism as a whole - it would be silly to stipulate that Judaism and Satanism have the same philosophy. Clearly, they do not. What I am asserting is that within nearly all religions and institutions, there is a 'circle within a circle' of those initiated into the higher mysteries which have a much different view than the body of the organizations they belong to, respectively. These 'initiates' are instructed in esoteric knowledge which has been passed down thru the ages and can be directly tied to Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. The serpent is just one of many such examples but the greater point I am attempting to make is that if you look for yourself you will see: there is a strange fixation on a select set of symbolisms and themes within these 'initiated circles' and that those can be traced, logically and accurately, back to ancient religions near the dawn of man. You have to get really good at noticing common themes. The most prevailing theme in these 'circles within circles' which identifies them is their desire for attainment of god-hood/ascencion thru mystic knowledge. Which of course this theme ties back to the true Luciferian Doctrine "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God". So much more to say but again I need to continue writing my larger piece on this topic.

UglyTruth

These 'initiates' are instructed in esoteric knowledge which has been passed down thru the ages and can be directly tied to Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia.

Not in the case of the esoteric knowledge of the Hebrews: relatively few even know that Kaballah is a shibboleth. The foundational knowledge is a catalyst for change which is hidden as for the layers of an onion.

For example: The glyphs for the natural numbers, Hebrew letters, and English letters are grouped as 9, 22, and 26 elements, respectively. Acts 9, 22, and 26 are the chapters which contain reports of the events on the road to Damascus. The reports contain contradictions regarding who heard what and what Paul's instructions were. The leads to the conclusion that proof of religious fraud has been highlighted by a symbolic reference to language: by sefer, sefer, and sefer (letter, number, and expression).

John_The_Watchman

Let me be more specific. The esoteric knowledge to which I am referring is the sort that involves cosmology/astronomy/angelic science/ritual magic/divination/numerology. To say that those things are not a topic of both Qabbalists and ancient egyptian/mesopotamian religions would be disingenuous, but I don't believe that is what you are saying. Now I can see you making a point about "How can Kaballah be influenced by ancient mystery religions like Egyptian when Hebrew is decidedly its own thing?"... and I agree that I must present evidence to back that claim which I will do in the very near future.

I want to be careful not to insult you here, as it is clear you have a good amount of knowledge on this topic and may indeed prescribe to the Kabbalah yourself. That said, My research has led me to believe that numerology is a science which was imparted upon mankind by fallen angels shortly after the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden...and in the hands of man it has become an obfuscation of truth rather than a highlighter of it. Therefore using numerology as a means to convince me of any one thing will not be very effective upon me due to my aforementioned belief.

Regardless, I am enjoying this discourse and encourage you to please continue.

UglyTruth

My research has led me to believe that numerology is a science which was imparted upon mankind by fallen angels shortly after the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden...and in the hands of man it has become an obfuscation of truth rather than a highlighter of it.

You have my counter-example regarding Paul's fictitious appointment as an apostle. While it uses numbers to make associations, it doesn't rely on the usual techniques of numerology which involve assigning meanings based on letter-value relationships, it simply highlights the significance of the rational interpretation of the veracity of the three accounts.

I'm not a big fan of popular Kaballah, I'm more interested in where the ideas originated, ie. the Watchers vs the Abrahamaic source. The real validation (for me at least), is how the hypercube connects Zndarsic's quantum model to the consciousness-based interpretations of quantum mechanics (eg Schrodinger's cat), and how the three mothers correlate to Keely's harmonic, enharmonic, and etheric modes. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in Egyptian estoeric knowledge that can match that.

John_The_Watchman

Just to clarify your position, you are stating you believe the source is Abrahamaic, not the Watchers. Am I correct?

UglyTruth

Yes, I'm talking about the original source of Hebrew esoteric knowledge which became the basis of popular Kaballah.

John_The_Watchman

Very good - unfortunately I've got to start getting ready for sleep as I've got an early start tomorrow, but I would like to continue the conversation on this topic with you tomorrow, from that lens.