belphegorsprime

True, but you've got it twisted. We are the tide.

wisdomtooth

Yep. No use saying this here, though. We need you - and all the thousands of pizzagaters here! - to say it there.

wisdomtooth

Look at the history tab. Just a few weeks ago, the page didn't even exist. It simply redirected to the disambiguation page. I got lifetime blocked for pushing it to have its own page. Now it does.

wisdomtooth

They don't, but they have a blacklist of free proxies ;)

belphegorsprime

Thanks for that. Meme++

RebelSkum

Fuck Wikipedia. True wiki for great justice: http://pizzagate.wiki

Oh, and while we're on the topic of Wikipedia being shitty: http://pizzagate.wiki/index.php?title=Wikipedia%27s_connections_to_pedophilia

wisdomtooth

Dude, no use screaming in an echo chamber. It's good to have the dedicated wiki, but Wikipedia is where the information war battleground.

momojaja

It clearly begins with "debunked" which is utterly misleading. If I was not as well informed as I am from following this investigation, I would have stopped and left it all feeling reassured. Debunked is a powerful word since it gives a false sense of conclusion. Pizzagate is far from being concluded, in fact it probably has not even began officially.

wisdomtooth

Yep. No use saying this here, though. We need you - and ALL THOUSANDS OF PIZZAGATERS HERE - to say it there.

IlluminatiKing

Wiki TL:DR - MSM says it is a hoax, so we also say it is a hoax.

To be fair they are still in that mind set where they trust MSM. The page is devoid of any evidence besides "muh news said it."

wisdomtooth

They're not that naive. These Wiki sentinels are highly apt, trained and schooled in the art of information sourcing and wordsmithing. They've been doing it for over a decade. It's intentional. It's partisan, and I wouldn't be surprised if many of them benefited materially from their zealotry.

UglyTruth

I dunno, it still looks like the usual pile of Wikipedia lies to me.

Try this one: https://infogalactic.com/info/pizzagate

redditsuckz

"jews" being trained to manipulate WIKIPEDIA, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmvEFKZMQw

wisdomtooth

It's not about what Wikipedia tells YOU, but what YOU tell Wikipedia!

UglyTruth

Wikipedia has always been a cognitive infiltration operation.

http://archive.is/rMeY4

wisdomtooth

Even if it didn't start with that intent...

Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton

UglyTruth

Pretty sure that's how it started, of course they had to sell it as neutral point of view in order to get popular support.

Acton was a Catholic, true sovereignty is not inherently corrupt despite power being one of its essential elements, i.e. "the king can to no wrong".

mysecretidentity

Just remember to keep in mind it logs IPs

wisdomtooth

Yep. I'm blocked for life already for pushing pizzagate.

Know of a way to get around the block? I tried proxies, but the Wikipedia clergy is not that dumb.

atheist4thecause

Can you see if you can get a new IP from your internet provider?

wisdomtooth

I'll look into that, thanks :)

Baluga

There's a LONG way to go.

A poll conducted by Public Policy Polling on December 6–7, 2016 asked 1,224 U.S. registered voters if they thought Hillary Clinton was "connected to a child sex ring being run out of a pizzeria in Washington DC?"

I would answer no to this question, because I don't think anything is being run out of a pizzeria. 'Pizzagate' comes from 'pizza' being a codeword. Alefantis is part of Hillary's circle (eg hosted fundraisers), but the pizzeria is a distraction.

MolochHunter

distraction? c'mon. Comet Ping Pong may very well turn out to be peripheral to the whole shebang - but it is this investigation's front fucking door. Whether or not much of the alledged nefarious activities go on at comet, it is inimical to the CULTURE of this paedophile mafia, and I'll eat my hat if Alefantis was not statutorially-raped by a previous POTUS, given his instagram identity avatar

Baluga

That could all be true, but read that line I quoted. The guilty are trying to convince the world that Pizzagate means illicit sex in the basement of Comet. If that's what they want people to think, it's a distraction from what it really is.

wisdomtooth

Yes, there is. It's up to US to edit the page.

dogeminho

Actually, during the 80s when the mafia was more.. there I guess you could say, there was something known as 'The Pizza Connection'. It was a looong case, but pretty much it involved pizza shops being used as fronts for drug trafficking and money laundering. It stretched across the US all the way to Italy.

Same family was later found guilty of child trafficking. Same family has connections to the Clintons.

AreWeSure

I'm familiar wthe pizza connection heroin case and how the FBI brought it down.

How does that genuine conspiracy relate to this conspiracy theory? Different people, different businesses and it was three decades ago.

What's the connection you allege to Clinton? Th DOJ convicted everyone bavk in the 80s when the Clintons were still in Arkansas. No body in the pizza connection ever stepped foot in Arkansas

dogeminho

The fact pizza shops have been used as fronts for illegal activity before is rather interesting, and frankly proves that CPP and other pizza places could also possibly do the same thing.

The family, the Gambino's are connected to the Clintons. HRC met with one of them to help her campaign in a pizza shop. The same family, later down the line but still in the family(and mafia) were convicted of child trafficking. Apparently they were using craigslist.

The Gambino's had the pizza places which did the illegal activity, the family later along the line(still doing more research) was found to be trafficking a child. Bill Clinton had Rosario Gambino on the list of possible(or actually, more research required) people to pardon during his presidency. Hillary met with one of them in a pizza place, during her 2008 election I believe, to help her win(they said they could get the other places to support her). She also met with one of their sons in prison I believe and said she'd do whatever she could to get them out, change RICO laws, etc. the man died before though. They have a history.

AreWeSure

When I first saw your post I googled Clinton and Bonnano and came up empty.

AreWeSure

From Wikipedia:

Gambino made headlines again in 2001 when reports surfaced that in 1995 President Bill Clinton's half-brother Roger Clinton, Jr. had allegedly accepted $50,000 and a Rolex watch from Gambino's children. According to reports, in return Rodger said he could guarantee Anna and Tommaso, Rosario's children,[14] a presidential pardon by President Clinton. In 1995, Roger Clinton unsuccessfully lobbied officials for parole for Rosario Gambino.[6] In 1999 when the president was prepared to decide who would be pardoned before his final days in office, Gambino's name was on the list for consideration.[6] Ultimately, the President did not grant Gambino a pardon.

AreWeSure

The Pizza Connection case resulted when the FBI placed an uncover agent with the Bonnano family. This was the same agent porytrayed in the movie Donnie Brasco. The pizza connection is not part of the film, it was another of his cases. From trial coverage at the time.

A key part of the heroin ring was described as ''the Catalano faction of the Bonanno family of La Cosa Nostra'' in New York City. The leader of the faction was identified as 43-year-old Salvatore Catalano of Queens, who was accused of being a major heroin distributor.

Just looked up Rosario Gambino and while a heroin dealer connected with the case, the Gambinos were not the "family behind" the pizza connection. In fact, the Bonnanos were kicked out of the Mafia's "Commission" for letting an FBI guy infiltrate them." The head of the Gambinos was the head of the Commission at the time. Rosario had a separate direct heroin connection (i.e he didn't get it from the same guy as the Bonnanos) and was first indicted for drugs in 1980...,..more later.

dogeminho

I'm looking more into the Arkansas connection, but it seems they helped violently overthrow Kosovo with Soros help. They have a 10ft statue of Bill... Within the area of Greece(I think if I remember correctly that Kosovo is there) they have a huge refugee problem. Albania which Clintons are connected to have a huge child and organ trafficking problem. The Albanian Mafia(requires more research) may be connected to the Gambino's and Clintons.

HRC went recently to a fundraiser at Paul Castellano, previous head of Gambino family, "White House". It was private. The man who now owns it is Sal Rusi who said HRC has helped greatly in Albanian community. the Rusi family has been caught giving illegal(or unethical, either way it was returned) donations to Bill de Blasio's campaign. Blasio read the creepy book called "secret pizza party" to a group of children, is questionable etc.

withinthewell

That's interesting. Let me know where I can see that.

This whole thing is getting bloody fucking disgusting. You guys are doing amazing though, and I'm proud to be here.

dogeminho

I've been looking into it actually, I made this here post

It is, do take breaks. The world can be disgusting but we can't forget the good that does exist. I mean, look at what we as a community are doing.

withinthewell

Thank you for that!

And I completely agree, plus it's exciting to see so much light shining in the darkness.

That darkness sure is getting scared though

dogeminho

You're welcome! And I feel the same way, it really is. It's also incredibly reassuring.

It is, which means we're making some form of progress. Can't get too cocky though, that seems to be many people's downfall.

withinthewell

Oh, I'm not cocky. I just have faith and hope, and those produce confidence.

But I do agree, cockiness and arrogance never adds anything to the table.

So. We keep going, hopefully in humble confidence.

dogeminho

I wasn't trying to imply you were, I'm sorry if it came off that way.Honestly, it's more of a reminder to myself.

Again, I completely agree.

withinthewell

Oh sorry man, I wasn't sure if you were or weren't, either way, none of what was said was said defensively.

God Bless man, you seem cool as shit.

dogeminho

God bless and I getcha. You seem really cool too, thank you :)