UglyTruth

The next step is to not lose your shit when you find out how big it really is. We are on the verge of the largest paradigm shift in our recorded history.

wisdomtooth

"Allowed"? "Censored"? What are you on about?? If you're out to censor, rather than explore all possibilities, you're in the wrong team here.

con77

we are a nation of sheep that were led by criminals

witch_doctor1

Thank you! I can't take full credit for that one..there is a guy on T_D that has posted some variation of "Hey, remember the time Hillary passed out and got chucked into a van like a side of beef" EVERY day since it happened, with the video of course..LOL! Then, when the Russian stuff started coming up, and he typed his catchphrase into Google translate and started posting it in Russian! That guy's consistency is hilarious...

Julian55

Listen guys. Here is what would work. Corrugated political signs on street/light posts that read "pizzagate is the news". Grab all the people you can't get from the internet.

demoTheGorgon

Seems spurious

jonnythaiwongy9

Dont say your an intelligence agent, people are going to find it hard to believe that an agent is posting on FB pizzagate forums. They are going to find it even harder to believe that FBIanon off 4chan is a real FBI agent who detailed the split and coup/counter coup among intelligence community. Just throw out a couple of visceral, concrete questions that can't be answered, then, once theyre hooked start drawing links.

wisdomtooth

Nowhere I said I'm an intelligence agent.

jonnythaiwongy9

Right, sorry analyst, I just think people will immediately disbelieve it.

wisdomtooth

Dude, how stupid exactly are you? It's copypaste from someone else's blog.

jonnythaiwongy9

Ah right well, whatever the case. I don't know exactly how stupid I am, haven't come up with a measurement yet. Not stupid enough to use a copy paste 'intelligence analyst' story tho.

wisdomtooth

It's called "spreading the word", moron.

jonnythaiwongy9

Yea well its not much good spreading the word if people get 5 words in and discount it because it seems like bullshit, is it moron? When spreading the word the idea is to hook people, not make them think its a wild theory dreamed up by deranged fantasists who go around saying they work in intelligence analysis.

Infopractical

I want to mention some things that may help members of this community best understand how to help people who are not aware of all the information we are aware of to understand the gravity of the situations that are unraveling.

Like Levy, I came at all this in a very roundabout way. I actually started off researching a very benign topic: who the hell is this alt-right group that my fellow "liberals" keep telling me are taking over the nation if we elect Trump? I gradually found out that the alt-right is tiny, Richard Spencer is a one-man band, the KKK has receded to minimal existence, and it all looked to me like the media was using shadow puppets as a proxy for a real threat in the identity politics war. Just telling my liberal friends this has led to a great deal of castigation, but I digress...

While posting on Facebook, a friend of a friend whom I'd never met chimed in and mentioned #pizzagate. This was maybe with a week left in November and I'd still never heard of #pizzagate, but started reading just a little. I'm a voracious note taker and my little folder of google docs quickly turned into nearly a dozen subfolders and scores of individual documents. I was vaguely aware of the Jimmy Savile story, but not well enough to know his name. I'd never heard of the Franklin Trust story. I've been aware of pedophile priests and even of Butlergate at the Vatican, but never did the deep research. But it was perhaps the coverups of past scandals the propelled me onward---I suspect Levy and I have this in common.

And like Levy, I eventually came upon a thread (here on voat) with a conversation with FBIanon. It wasn't all the conversations [yet] and I'm not even sure I had the name 'FBIanon' to associate with the chat yet. I wasn't sure if I believed it, and still wonder the degree of credibility I should give it, but there are degrees of consistency with the unfolding of the evidence that are somewhat strong at this point, so I'm far from dismissing it. I started research the Clinton Foundation more. Holy shit! There is a lot to research. But somewhere along the way I started watching George Webb's [very well done] videos and I'm soaking up everything I can.

In the meantime, I've become convinced that the Norway and Australia money pulled back from the Clinton Foundation was a blackmail scheme to keep their leaders out of the crosshairs of pedophilia investigations (and Norway and Australia have both half-pulled the triggers on investigations into such). But I'm just started to understand everything Webb talks about in his videos. I have the benefit of an international finance background, but would feel more comfortable with documents in front of me that I could examine. Hopefully Braverman will surface and help with that.

And who has the time?!

My point: there are many Levy's throughout the world. I'm one of them. We will be convinced as we evaluate information. We may be skeptical and we may not have seen much of the information to this point. And perhaps there was too little to look deeply into prior to the Wikileaks email dumps?!

Speaking of the emails. I still see very smart friends say that there is nothing to them. And if a smart person sees them devoid of context, that's a not unreasonable conclusion! The analysis that has led us to formulate reasonable theories of what may be going on has required hundreds of thousands of additional hours of investigation and matching of context. Remember that complexity as you engage with the world! A single email such as John Podesta telling Neera Tanden that Braverman (not Band) is a leak needs substantial outside context, and that context blew up when Braverman dropped out of sight! How much more context will be revealed assuming that Trump takes office and the FBI is given the high ground?!

Be patient. Be thoughtful. Be rational. Be diligent. And allow for each Levy to discover any single piece that may lead to another.

Headstart

Don't worry. If it doesn't make sense to us as individuals, for others it helps put the pieces together. We are trying to solve a very complicated puzzle; it helps to see things from different points of views and with different input.

God works miracles.

RecycledUser

My only concern on that picture is do we know the hand symbols are nefarious? I only ask cuz I saw a thread posted here a week ago, that it wasn't. Now whether I believe it or not, I have no clue. But I'm just putting it out there. And we should avoid a PG hashtag or the word in a title we share, I know Twitter filters them. But I always put #fakenews (love the person that came up with doing that!) and at least one other. I don't want ONE post I put out to go to waste . :) Edit spelling.

Aysemari

Chip Tatum ( former CIA agent gone rogue), Ted Gunderson interviewed him several times stArted an uncensored page, much like FB this might be a good venue http://haleron.com/ I don't want you think I'm a shill, I really thought Ted Gunderson can be trusted and now I'm not so sure after what I read on a different thread Initially I thought since Ted Gunderson trusted in the can trust him and he has a lot of vets on his site, thought they me of help

21yearsofdigging

I knew Gunderson. I went to see on 2 occasions and even spent a night at his place in Los Vegas. If Gunderson was on both sides I don't know for sure. What I do know is that he told me things and confirmed things for me that no one else shared with me. That was in 1996

wisdomtooth

mosswitch

I agree fakebook is crap and so is twatter but reality is most bluepill people are still on there and need to be awakened so flooding them with pizzagate stuff is the best strategy.

MolochHunter

well, if true the Libya human trafficking connection (with its mercenaries that relocated to Syria) would seem to dovetail perfectly into that article about 36 000 children's organs being harvested during the Syria conflict

crystalclearme

And also (off the top of my head) dovetails into Hastert and his being blackmailed/bribed/ involved with Turkey. That was never investigated as they dropped it after he confessed

remedy4reality

Russian Ambassador to Turkey has just been shot...

search4truth

Here's some other info on the Turkish connection, written by Wayne Madsen:http://rockthetruth.blogspot.com/2009/08/organ-trafficking-ring-taking-heart-out.html?m=1

anonentity

Yeh I think it might be breaking vhttp://uconservative.com/2016/12/17/wits-obama-benghazi-emails-lead-straight/ See the sever was in a safe room. That's how FBI anon caught on to the CF they didn't have much dirt before that. The Ambassador and three others were killed in what was supposed to be a flash mob angered by a utube vid. But on the ground witnesses say they saw heavy rounds and mortars used to flatten the place. Sounds more like an "OFFING"

Headstart

Chris Stevens knew too much about what they were doing. He was one of them, no doubt about that. But you're right, they felt they had to destroy evidence.

witch_doctor1

Good for you. I went on a shit posting spree last night on Twitter after Pres. Trump tweeted....it was glorious...like shooting fish in a barrel. I let fly with shit posts regarding #fakebirthcertificate, #podestaemails and topped it off with that time Hillary got chucked into a van like a side of beef.

I was thinking about this today..what if we had a rapid action Twitter brigade for every time Pres. Trump tweeted? I noticed that the shills jumped in early and then the cavalry arrived...but it might be awesome if we jumped them right off the bat..know what I mean? It would only take 5 or so of us to make a big difference.

wisdomtooth

Form your trusted team then ;)

witch_doctor1

Dang...I just went to Twitter to review the thread I went on last night (The Donald china drone one) and I did not see one tweet of mine on there. I tweeted 22 times in that thread...but when I scrolled through them just now when I was logged out, not one of my tweets appeared. I must have pressed the right buttons, but now I know why Milo and David Seaman are gone. We need to let Pres. Trump know about this...forget my Twitter brigade idea, we will just get deleted. If Trump would move to Gab it would make things easier for us.

Headstart

Sounds like shadow banning, which Twitter seems to be doing to many conservatives...

Twitter needs to be replaced, quickly.

Vindicator

Same thing happened to me today after retweeted Trump's rally threat to sic Sessions on dirty politicians. Poof. Invisible.

50hurtz

lmao like a side of beef, what a perfect way to describe it! but this was still a great connection in the post. but i agree with you, but theres cencorship everywhere and the same thing youre implying could and should be done with facebook aswell so we can spread even more awarness and stop this shit sooner than later

SocialistActivist

That was a good political conversation, Facebook is super establishment and basically all your private messages are public too. :/

standalone

What on earth would anyone want to discuss #pizzagate on Facebook?

wisdomtooth

To raise awareness.

NeedPolyGF

So they had 2 reasons to let Stevens be killed? Blocking arms to ISIS and blocking human trafficking?

MenaAirport

We need to find a new site to discuss pronto!

PizzaByPedos

Minds.

logjam

I think gab.ai is a good place to go - it will still be up. Voat is top notch though.

wisdomtooth

Voat is it. But facebook, twitter, quora, Wikipedia... is where the information battleground is at. No point just keeping it to ourselves.

Atlantean120

don't forget YouTube

mosswitch

Welcome to the team, forget about wikipedia or fakebook... use GAB, VOAT, and TWITTER while you still can . The more awoken people on our team the better.

wisdomtooth

Gab and voat are echo chambers. Good places to generate content, not to disseminate it.

mosswitch

Yep, but at least the posts dont get deleted here. Welcome to the echo chamber.

wisdomtooth

Horses for courses. Here is the ammunition room; there is the battleground.

KanyeMKULTRA

Don't forget liberal and black sites. If people knew what was going on they'd flip and be in the streets like South Korea. Disqus is the best hub to use. Appeal to the hearts of women. Most of them are distracted by trash gossip everyday. Tmz gets millions of daily views, TheDirty.com allows submissions (great for pizzagate, owner is open to Clinton conspiracies, mediatakeout.com, more below. We need more MEME makers! v/MagicMemes /

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marketshare/2013/05/24/the-30-most-popular-celebrity-gossip-sites-and-why-big-brands-love-them/#301cfe175d7d

zoltan907

Upvoated because too many people treat Pizzagate as a strictly conservative or pro-Trump idea, and that dissuades everyone else from looking further into it. World Socialist Web Site and Global Research have both published many articles on human trafficking, and Global Research has a section dedicated to Media Disinformation. There's a comment section on WSWS articles, and maybe we could suggest that Global Research publish something about Pizzagate.

Selnee

This is a very good idea and I commented about this before that I first heard about pizzagate from the comment section on a tmz story.

keepthefaith

I second thedirty.com....he (Nic Ritchie) broke the Anthony Wiener/Sydney Leathers story

terrordactyl

Those places are lost already. We just need to keep the torch going at this point, wherever we can.

The_Invincible_Moose

They may be lost, but their user base isn't. We should continue using them to the extent possible to draw more people into the discussion.

logjam

sign up at gab.ai - lot of people who left Twitter went there.