No, I got the point. My reason for pointing that out is that even innocuous statements like "a server from Benghazi" can be used to de-legitimize the conversation. People don't want stuff like this to be true, so pointing to even a tiny, minor thing such as that and saying "That didn't happen. Fake news!" or "That didn't happen! Conspiracy theory!" or something like that can easily be used to turn people's brains off from this kind of stuff.
Good point. We do need to be accurate in our language because the naysayers (and co-conspirators) are leaping on everything in order to ridicule the idea and discredit it.
This video argues against itself. Gaddafi starts out as the victim of colonialist, racist Britons, then suddenly becomes docile, then takes advantage of a situation it claims Reagan set up, and then begins endorsing terrorism. Mr. Levy seems to forget that he said at the start Gaddafi supported the IRA, and he conveniently leaves out Gaddafi's support of the "Palestinians"/PLO and his intense hatred of Israel. I also find it to be interesting timing that this video was posted yesterday while all eyes are on Syria. Let us demonize the Assads some more? Seems like propaganda to me.
The video is a collection of clips from Adam Curtis' doco HyperNormalisation. It doesn't seem to me Adam is defending Gaddafi. Quite the contrary, he's saying Gaddafi was a madman (or a fool who played one to project power in his region), but that he never was the powerful Dr. Evil Western govts and its captive media portrayed him as.
Which is just as bad, and I am not believing the Gaddafi-took-advantage-of-Reagan's-plot premise. Reagan had no reason to scapegoat Libya. If it was Syria, he could just as easily have sent a cruise missile to Damascus.
Could he? AFAIK, Syria is under Iran and Russian protection. Reagan couldn't face the real culprit, at the risk of escalating war with the USSR, so it pretended to "mistake" him for a smaller kid in the yard to at least show some muscle.
You make a good point, but Reagan was not Hillary Clinton. He would not kill innocent people just for the sake of appeasing congressmen pounding a podium (after all, they do that every day anyway).
Yes, I am well-aware of Iran-Contra. I do not agree with arming terrorists for any reason, including in order to fight the diabolical former Soviet Union. It was a grave error. However, he did not fire a missile at someone in Afghanistan he knew full well had nothing to do with anything and kill his son in the process.
Just want to correct something. I wasn't under the impression that Gaddafi got a hold of the server. I believe it was after Hilary was investigated - that the authorities then found out more info.
I'll admit I was slightly premature in posting that having only skimmed through it. But when they investigated Hillary, wasn't Gaddafi long dead by then? I mean when the "rebels" killed Gaddafi and took control, I imagine they would have destroyed any kind of evidence like that.
This is a big slip up for them and their criminal establishment.
Correct. There seem to be some reading comprehension issues on this thread. LOL
BTW, I had no idea my article was being re-posted. THANK YOU, EVERYONE!
We need to get this information out.
And I am headed to Washington next week.
▼ LaDonnaRae
He was not sodomized. YEESH! I wish people would catch up. That photo is from the assassination of our ambassador to Uruguay in 1970.
▼ IceDagger316
There was no "server from Benghazi". The American based server was surrendered as part of a subpoena during the Benghazi investigation.
▼ LaDonnaRae
You completely missed the point.
▼ IceDagger316
No, I got the point. My reason for pointing that out is that even innocuous statements like "a server from Benghazi" can be used to de-legitimize the conversation. People don't want stuff like this to be true, so pointing to even a tiny, minor thing such as that and saying "That didn't happen. Fake news!" or "That didn't happen! Conspiracy theory!" or something like that can easily be used to turn people's brains off from this kind of stuff.
▼ LaDonnaRae
Good point. We do need to be accurate in our language because the naysayers (and co-conspirators) are leaping on everything in order to ridicule the idea and discredit it.
▼ IceDagger316
Exactly. They'll latch onto the tiniest little error or mis-wording in our phrasing and use it to try to invalidate the entire conversation.
▼ wisdomtooth
Gaddafi, The Hoax
▼ LaDonnaRae
This video argues against itself. Gaddafi starts out as the victim of colonialist, racist Britons, then suddenly becomes docile, then takes advantage of a situation it claims Reagan set up, and then begins endorsing terrorism. Mr. Levy seems to forget that he said at the start Gaddafi supported the IRA, and he conveniently leaves out Gaddafi's support of the "Palestinians"/PLO and his intense hatred of Israel. I also find it to be interesting timing that this video was posted yesterday while all eyes are on Syria. Let us demonize the Assads some more? Seems like propaganda to me.
▼ wisdomtooth
The video is a collection of clips from Adam Curtis' doco HyperNormalisation. It doesn't seem to me Adam is defending Gaddafi. Quite the contrary, he's saying Gaddafi was a madman (or a fool who played one to project power in his region), but that he never was the powerful Dr. Evil Western govts and its captive media portrayed him as.
Also, Adam doesn't necessarily demonise Assad. If anything, he demonises the Israel Lobby: https://www.vibby.com/v/QJXxJ6EAz
▼ LaDonnaRae
Which is just as bad, and I am not believing the Gaddafi-took-advantage-of-Reagan's-plot premise. Reagan had no reason to scapegoat Libya. If it was Syria, he could just as easily have sent a cruise missile to Damascus.
▼ wisdomtooth
Could he? AFAIK, Syria is under Iran and Russian protection. Reagan couldn't face the real culprit, at the risk of escalating war with the USSR, so it pretended to "mistake" him for a smaller kid in the yard to at least show some muscle.
▼ LaDonnaRae
You make a good point, but Reagan was not Hillary Clinton. He would not kill innocent people just for the sake of appeasing congressmen pounding a podium (after all, they do that every day anyway).
▼ wisdomtooth
Again, you confuse me for Adam. That's his argument, not mine.
So you're saying St. Reagan wouldn't put innocent people in harm's way?
I presume you have heard of the Iran-Contra Affair , no?
▼ LaDonnaRae
Yes, I am well-aware of Iran-Contra. I do not agree with arming terrorists for any reason, including in order to fight the diabolical former Soviet Union. It was a grave error. However, he did not fire a missile at someone in Afghanistan he knew full well had nothing to do with anything and kill his son in the process.
▼ hopeforall
Interesting. Never knew about the server gaddafi got hold of. Good on Berlusconi too. Maybe Berlusconi wasn't as bad of a prime minister as people say
▼ logjam
Just want to correct something. I wasn't under the impression that Gaddafi got a hold of the server. I believe it was after Hilary was investigated - that the authorities then found out more info.
▼ hopeforall
I'll admit I was slightly premature in posting that having only skimmed through it. But when they investigated Hillary, wasn't Gaddafi long dead by then? I mean when the "rebels" killed Gaddafi and took control, I imagine they would have destroyed any kind of evidence like that.
This is a big slip up for them and their criminal establishment.
▼ LaDonnaRae
Correct. There seem to be some reading comprehension issues on this thread. LOL BTW, I had no idea my article was being re-posted. THANK YOU, EVERYONE! We need to get this information out. And I am headed to Washington next week.
▼ wisdomtooth
Are you kidding?
https://www.facebook.com/search/?q=ladonnarae1961
▼ LaDonnaRae
Wow. REALLY? I am blown away!
▼ wisdomtooth
What happened to your twitter account?
https://twitter.com/LaDonnaRae1961
▼ logjam
What do you have in the agenda in Washington?
▼ LaDonnaRae
Recon first. Then I start cage-rattling until I get someone's attention.