I agree in general. I am VERY frustrated by the 80% nonsense that is being posted and discussed on this sub. I spend most of my time look through new submissions since the rest of it gets mass-targeted and upvoated, leaving a lot of good stuff to fall out. It's organic when there are more and more "public" people coming here, and it's a convenient outcome of that, too. Or, it's being engineered.

As a side note - I have noticed that the new subscribers has hovered around 9300 for the past 24+ hours, whereas for most of the previous few weeks it has steadily climbed. This weekend was a big holiday party weekend but figured today would be a busy day w/ the electoral college event, etc. Interesting.

Do mods have any power to determine how voating is done?

From an outsider, this sub is a mess. Some of you that actually care about accuracy and substantiated claims are probably going to have to make another subverse that doesn't allow speculation and flimsy theories to be stated as fact. The sensationalism and paranoia is off the charts as well, get a grip. The credibility of "pizzagate" is going to be non-existent if all this keeps up.

I know it's all so exciting, but it's not a game. There's real lives being affected.

I up votes it based on the van being in the video and the need to look further into why apparently no arrests were made and the kids were released to what may have been a perpetuation of the problem. I feel like since this appears to be a network of global proportions, then anything is possibly connected. There is certainly enough here to look into. If you have debunking details do provide them, otherwise all you're doing is really posting once again the information that you yourself claim is dubious, that actually seems counter production to your own belief. Idk. Still I see nothing wrong with looking into this even if it is just for knowledge. I agree we shouldn't make accusations without any proof.

Look I will admit when I am wrong for singling you out. I have edit my comments pertaining to you (2) and have pinged you on both. I cant stand by a post about why people wont correct themselves when wrong and then be guilty of it myself. I felt you pushed a story without examining it first, and I still feel that way to an extent, but I all but called you a shill, and looking through some of your comments and the whole comment chains on that op I feel that I was in error to single you specifically out.

I agree. I made a post about it once.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1469226

Also, I'd really like to mention, I highly doubt anything any user here uncovers will be more than anything the FBI already has.

Absolutely.

Thing is, is that the FBI is the only government institution at the moment standing against pretty much the whole behemoth.

Their leaking to the public is the only power they have at this moment. Their only card.

They leak it directly, they will be labelled Russian infiltrated and demolished.

All they can do is let the public see for themselves.

These investigators are their agents.

Totally agree. 13 moderators allowing false titles...

Thank you for creating a post to call that out! That post was the most egregious case I've ever seen of massive upvotes/enthusiasm despite there being nothing substantiating the "connections" allegedly being made.

voat is a fucking shithole.

This supposed former cia worker has this to say about the vans used for transporting children. written in 2007. http://www.gailallen.com/theo/Secrets-of-the-CIA-Global-Sex-Slave-Industry-by-Dr-Sue-Arrigo.html

That means that their own vehicle license plate numbers are a weak point for them. If the buyers are front organizations for the bosses and the CIA, then those license plates may be “unregistered” — fakes that do not link up to a real name anywhere in the world. But the numbers still help one track the trade, just like the numbers on the rendition planes.

If the van owners are free lance brothel owners — then those vehicle numbers may go to a person who the police might be willing to prosecute in the sex slave business. Like in the drug trade, the police will prosecute the free-lancers to make it look like they are doing their jobs.

The free lancers are often fairly obvious — they are less rich and more varied in appearance both personally and in their vehicles. The rich often buy a vehicle, use it for a few months and then turn around and sell it for another purpose. The VIN numbers could be a problem for them even though the plates are false.

However, almost all of the vehicles that the rich use to transport the sex slaves on land in the US are made at one plant in the US. That plant in in Atlanta, I believe. It is the only plant that make vans with holes in the bottom of an enamel type of floor.

Cattle do not have to be hidden in transport, so this combination of having to be hidden and having to be hosed down and needing some ventilation but good sound-proofing is almost unique in the automotive industry.

I noticed that this post has appeared on the Main Pizzagate Twitterfeed (posted by MAGA.revolution. KGB); someone should contact this poster. It may definitely be used as an example to prove that this site is spreading disinfo. The Mods should look into this ASAP.

Not sure, as I didn't upvoat it. (unfortunately I can't downvoat yet as too new)

I found the threads in question too vague to upvoat.

Its a repost from freerepublic, just google any of the paragraphs. I dont know if its just a leap of faith by the OP - they have now edited the post to advise the connection is basically non existant but no input from the mods to correct the title or any further attempts to delete any of the original sections in the post that assume the link.

That post made no sense. It referenced things in specific emails that didn't even exist. And just loosely connected 2 seperate situations based on "similar looking vans".

I think its a function of having grown from 3000 subscribers when i joined a couple of weeks ago to 9000 now. So, if this was 2 weeks ago those upvoats would be the equivalent of 200 only

It's the shills. They've basically taken over the forum. They make it impossible to collaborate. We've been so focused on welcoming new members, and focused on our reputations, that we never thought about the logistics of communicating with each other.

STFU about your points, faggot.

This is the strategy they're using. It's very old, and Yuri Bezmenov explains perfectly in this video: https://youtu.be/SZnkULuWFDg?t=10m45s

They're preparing the next straw-man to beat. The next "fake news" is: "Podesta has a black van, so he must be a child rapist". The upvoats are a CTR job.

Probably a shill operation to discredit the investigation. That thread is totally stupid. It's kinda like: Podesta has a black van. Some pedo in another state ALSO has a black van. So obviously Podesta is a pedo.

We can do better than that, seriously.

I just played around with voting, and the upvote count is 613. When I down voted, it dropped to 18!

I've never downvoted a submission, before; so not sure if it's something I'm missing?

A majority of the subscribers are already convinced Pizzagate has a truth to it. So they will be upvoating en masse the threads that seem to confirm this idea. Most subscribers are not here to investigate further. They just want to see their views confirmed.

This medium(voat) is highly imperfect for a community that tries to investigate something. The way the voats work, sensationalism goes before substance.

11k views ..... ::squints: that was not that high a bit ago...

i have asked the admins to be able to edit post titles in v/voatdev . 0 chance of that happening any time this coming year...