I already watched the RT interview and I'm still agnostic about it. If people are worried about self-preservation by submitting to Wikileaks then they should submit anonymously and keep plenty of backups, or bypass Wikileaks altogether.

I'm finding it hard to believe John Pilger is in on this. He is a very respected journalist and is also very anti-establishment. He is a truth teller and I can't believe he would be involved in this.

Sorry. I guess I'm just not as hip to certain "facts" as you or maybe I should just trust some un-sourced, random nob on the pizzagate forums about the whereabouts of Julian Assange because there sure as hell aren't any pedos in here who would stand to benefit by discrediting Wikileaks. I guess the fact that some people are agnostic about certain issues was too much for you to bear. I didn't realize my own personal indecision about this topic was a source of such discomfort for you.

"that wikileaks should be considered an unreliable source of information" its the contents that is important, if its questionnable ok, if not then i dont care of the source...truth can come from anywhere but yes we should not forget its could be compromised...and yes i understand ur concern, but remember that we are all assuming here, we cant affirm anything, only that we dont see Julian in flesh since long time, thats all...enough to worry, but iam not sure its enough to say that WL IS compromised. its my opinion... But yes if i was about to leak shit to them i wouldnt have do it, for sure, better to wait better proof of life...but if i had better internet i would have downloaded this thing by curiosity..2days of torrenting ..no thanks lol

The torrent says it will take days to download? anyone else having that problem?

no matching hash, no legit stash.

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I wonder if the ambassador assassination has anything to do with these leaks...

and his mom have been fooled by a stranger or a software when she speak to him few days ago ? (itw in australian media) and they used again an actor for fake his voice last interview on radio ?...

i know it could, but its not prooven at all for moment. i saw a reddit post where someone have analysed the last audio radio interview, and its not copy-pasta words like some people suggested. quite interesting go look for it.

Obviously its not proof he is safe and alive nowadays everything can be faked, but, he could also be right now "just" hiding hard ,maybe cose he could have received real death threat ? and dont want to show him face on balcony, cose sniper ? or he could hiding somewhere escaped ?...no idea..but for moment i not sure at all WL is compromised, like seems his family think he is safe, like seems some close people to WL staff seems to not be worried for his safety etc... What now if the whole thing "Where is assange" is some sort of FBI/CIA psy-op ? for example for making him go appear on balcony and just shoot him ? or for trying to out the WL team..? or more for make us think that if a realease automated by them (the original team) is just from russians or whatever they could suggest us ? (like the story see few days ago about some russians planting CP in some computer of their adversaries u know...)

i saw some twitter bots used in the "where is assange" campaign...do u heard about JTRIG ? google it..For me its not impossible that the whole thing is a psy-op even if again this not proove anything... at this point we just cant be sure of anything, and with a good security DL this should not harm to us..especially if u are not a leakers/black-hats...

anyway again, no proofs, just questions. Its all good to ask questions, but affirmating things without nothing more than suspicions is not serious and i understand those who call people like this "shills"... dont need to downvote my comments, iam just cautious with all this story...we all should be...

If everyone had been smart about this and been careful to take the proper precautions (as we really should be doing) then ideally - someone who knows very well what they're doing could have safely downloaded the files onto a VM using proper OPSEC and verified the files to see if they were safe. Then, if he files were indeed safe they could have then reuploaded them for those who were curious to download.

The file I just got was 90.13 GB... why is everyone saying 83?

I have the original insurance file 88GB.

Did Assange & wikileaks ever explain why the dead man switch activated? That would be the must important thing right? Was it ever even addressed?

Slave everyone's machine and then what? Mine Bitcoin? It makes no sense. It's aes256 encrypted data. The only thing it can do is occupy 83GB of disk space.

You're not going to stop us. Tell your boss we're coming for him and we will get his tax evading faggot ass. He'll be lucky to be executed. Paedophiles don't fair well in prison.

hey not all of us are reddfugees, voat just got spread in forums everywhere as go to place for pizzagate investigations when it shut down there.

Wasn't there some kind of "stamp" or "mark" that we couldn't find on WikiLeaks content post-Assange blackout, therefore giving grounds to the possibility that WikiLeaks had been compromised?

Could someone check if these have it? That could really ease the tension in this thread (compromised vs. legitimate).

I totally agree. WL is compromised and JA was taken. My biggest fear is that they tortured or MK Ultra'ed him. Just thinking about it makes me wish he died soon after they took him. God bless this man.

Any intel on the contents yet?

habeuscorpus

If WL hasn't been compromised, it could be a warning to make sure the electoral vote goes to trump.

Could the Russian assassination(s) today in Turkey be related? Files may be real.

just clarifying I'm a fugee from the chan's not deddit,,, :)

I don't trust anything since mid October. Once the police stopped staking him out, we haven't seen him. He's definitely not at the embassy and the tweets since then have been inconsistent with what we've seen from WL.

Here you ago https://youtu.be/b6qlc3lStM4

That was a rhetorical "scream," not directed to you personally (I am not here to attack anyone). And while I know enough about the DKIM process to wade my way through some of the emails capable of verification, I would want to work with others geared more tech-savvy towards the same goal. My point, though, is that we should actually assume that the information IS reliable for purposes of researching it, because the evidence more strongly suggests that it is reliable when looked at objectively. In the end, before people run to the press with the "smoking gun" in their hands, we want to do more verification, but we will only ever find that smoking gun if people still dive in and research this stuff. Cries of "don't download the insurance file, Wikileaks is compromised" doesn't help anyone except the establishment.

It may also be that the missing GB were the worst of the worst acts and actors. My guess is video of Clintons and other high ranking officials would explode the US. They may go from Podesta/Weiner/Abedin on down with the convictions. And wait until public furor is calling for the Clinton's head on a pike.

The evidence much more strongly supports its not being compromised - here is a nice write-up from Reddit's Wikileaks sub on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/5j4ypw/debunking_the_pol_concern_trolling_with_the_facts/ - so, while I always suggest caution and vetting of all information, all that happens when you scream out "we can't trust Wikileaks" is that people don't dive into the leaks as much as they should. Trust, but verify...

OK. So the CIA compromised wikileaks. What are they doing with it? Trying to trick us into downloading an 83GB trojan? You underestimate the CIA.

Has anyone considered that it is the N S A in control of WL vs. C?I?A?

forgive me, but what does richard spencer and malik have to do with wikileaks?

I have a 341GB insurance file I would like the key for.

Admittedly, I haven't looked deeply into the Julian Assange rumors. However, it might be worth it to ask yourself who stands to benefit the most from widespread panic that Wikileaks is compromised? That being said I don't know if I'd download this file.

Then there isn't a lot of sense going around.

His internet was taken away. That's 99% likely to be all that happened.

There is 0 knowledge about what those tweets might have really meant. Just a bunch of tin foil hat, CIA plots and black reverse psyops or whatever they call it.

This guy had his internet cutoff. Relax.

Or likes dick.

There is no evidence that wikileaks was compromised. There is a bunch of rumor, innuendo, and unverified stories posing as fact. Add to that a bit of confirmation bias.

OK. Eat a dick then.

Who, you? Don't be. If you're scared of your IP being tracked, use a VPN.

would be so much more credible if the ecuadorian embassy just gave Assange back his internet... I mean the election is over right?

Eat a dick, shill.

He done the interview with Pilger before the pictures of the vans were put out on the internet.....I think.

False flag incoming. Before they provide proof of life, everyone should be sceptical.

I wonder if a false "dead mans switch" will soon hit the internet, unlocking Trump and Russia information.

Wikileaks being compromised is a black-PR campaign designed to discredit it. There has been repeated Proof of Life for Assange, and subsequent releases. Caution is fine, but don't support their disinformation campaign.

A bunch of baseless innuendo and suddenly everyone here believes the hype about a "compromised" wikileaks.

No proof, but its like definitely true n shit. It was like in the Anonymous video and like that was definitely real yo.

Is it possible the NYPD submitted files to Wikileaks due to the shenanigans currently ongoing with the NSA,CIA and FBI. They did say what they saw on Weiners laptop was more then disgusting. I know some believe Wikileaks is compromised, but it is possible the white hats are revolting.

No proof of that.

https://archive.is/tBmQX :

WikiLeaks on Twitter: "INSURANCE 2016-12 torrent t.co/zi9iFO9OT0 (83GiB) SHA256:637f6996be1ea0155099df79baf7b7e7be14d17965026f619acf139f9fd55382"

https://archive.is/kRHJU :

A_Man_in_Hatred on Twitter: "HOLY FUCKING SHIT t.co/pGkqvh8UrF"

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We have to watch this isn't a false flag thingymajig.

If a key is released today then all eyes will be on that and not on the Electoral college votes.....Not that the key will be released, something could happen.

Wikileaks tweeted this

@starry_one_two @Cheesy_Combo You heard that from a black-PR campaign run, probably, by the CIA, designed to decrease trust in WikiLeaks.

In reply to

PresidentTrump . ‏@starry_one_two 35m35 minutes ago

@Cheesy_Combo @wikileaks I heard CIA infiltrated Wikileaks after kidnapping Julian from Ecuad. Embassy in Oct...if true, can't trust Wiki.

Then tweeted this

WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 4m4 minutes ago

@PressFreedom365 @starry_one_two @Cheesy_Combo These are not rumours. It is a black-PR campaign producing fabricated documents and videos.

In reply to

Freedom For Press ‏@PressFreedom365 18m18 minutes ago

@wikileaks @starry_one_two @Cheesy_Combo there is an easy way to kill the rumours, video POL. People are worried

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/810828684273872897

Looks like you need a key to open it anyway. Something to hang onto for now.

WL compromised + torrent + 83GB instead of 88GB previous one ? Hum...

But I'm curious, so if someone can reupload it on a private host (mega, etc....) send me a msg, I'll have something for you

This was just tweeted also.

WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 3m3 minutes ago

The Obama administration (including CIA, FBI) has yet to contact WikiLeaks in relation to our DNC/Podesta publications. #PodestaEmails

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/810819466351300609

be careful,, I thought wikileaks was compromised?? https://steemit.com/wikileaks/@ausbitbank/the-great-wizard-of-leaks-a-blockchain-fantasy-action-adventure-epic . Personally I would only trust the 88gb insurance file torrent pre october.