I have a lot of respect for Icke, the material he covers is immense. I think we all to one extent or another have our limits in what we are willing to accept when things he says goes against our beliefs (be they purely scientific material rationalism or in some way religious), especially when there is so little evidence for some of the things.
One of his best presentations in my opinion is this one: Big brother and the big picture.
No reptiles there but lots of remarkable stuff, like his concept of Problem, Reaction, Solution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGAkM_AiIT0
The way I see it with people such as Icke is you try they say against your best judgment and accept what ever is reasonable, file the rest away for later consideration or even as pure lunacy, but you gotta give the man respect for depth of his life's work's investigation.
Personally I have a hard time accepting his religious new agey ideas about vibrational states of consciousness, the importances of colors and so forth, the ascended masters he claims to talk to etc... ("Pure love is the only truth everything else is illusion.")
Recently, however I got my world-view challenged yet again to the point of even considering the pesky reptiles as I recently discovered Carolyn Hamlett, self proclaimed survivor of sexually abusive mind control, self proclaimed member of the Illuminati as well as high ranking member of the "satanic hierarchy". Almost everything is based on repressed memories, out of body experiences, yet somehow I find her words truthful, hard to explain why in rational terms.
Now this rabbit hole is just about as deep as they go and would seemingly take a lifetime to explore, I was surprised of the sheer amount of information available, so I don't want to derail the current investigation by any means, explore if you are drawn to it. I find the character of Daniel Duval to be somewhat shady, yet he brings a lot of DID people to his radio program where their testimonies are contained.
Perhaps I add a trigger warning to more scientifically minded people all this is Christian and they will preach on you...
What is being uncovered in this documentary is truly remarkable, complete with the the dishonest media. The court called it not a accident but used the term unlawful killing and the media refused to report on it.
Alot of people believe in reptilian aliens interbreeding with humans. The theory is that there are some benign, benevolent alien species who look over us, trying to help humans. Then there are other aliens who, while not evil, simply view us with cold-hearted indifference. I've never met one so I've got no idea.
He is a storyteller! And a good one!
Titus frost was mentioning the strange sounds of trumpets, now I think david talked about the first recorded writing about the building of the pyramids, it was mentioned they were build by the sound off trumpets!
I looked into that! So interesting! Titus should look into that, but I have no way to contact him. ???
I have been watching his videos and even tho this reptilian stuff sounds crazy, it could be true. This guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about. He may know why these Satanic elites seem to have no souls. He's worth listening to.
Controlled opposition is such a highly strategic move on the part of the corrupt elites, and especially with the U.S. government giving itself legal authority to spread propaganda to U.S. citizens (which works for both MSM material but also with controlled opposition material, they can tap both angles), that people would have to be pants-on-head to not be vigilant about the possibility with anyone who has achieved significant popularity/attention and thus has the power to influence the opinions of many thousands to several millions of followers.
So in that regard, the question I ask is, is this person/group's participation helping or harming the cause of raising awareness and/or gaining credibility? With David Icke, his most famous conspiracy theory content is the reptilian stuff, and that is what people are going to see/read/watch when they look him up. So having him become prominent on the topic of pizzagate is more harmful than helpful.
And then the best defense anyone has for the guy, is that he had to use reptilian talk to keep himself from being murdered. So in other words, that he allows himself to be used as a prominent figure for discrediting topics, is excusable because ultimately he did it for himself. And we are supposed to feel.. okay with that? Personally, I don't.
I also reject the fallacy that you can't criticize someone unless you have done everything they have done. I see that fallacy all the time, and it's bogus no matter who is using it or for what. I'm not a dentist, but if a dentist screwed up my teeth, I could sure as hell notice it and I could sure as hell criticize them for it. That I haven't been making conspiracy theorists look bad for years allegedly in order to cover my own ass, is a moot point.
I can't imagine that Philip, Liz or Charles really cared that much. Are they capable of normal feelings like normal people. These royals have been doing things for power and prestige for centuries above all else. And we know Charles wasn't into Diana anyway, so I don't think there was much love lost there.
He obviously never heard the idiom 'don't throw the baby out with the bathwater'.
its what makes conspiracy theorists, look like conspiracy nuts. and yes people in general will dismiss anything he has to say as bullshit, because he comes out with retarded things like reptiles rule the world. metaphorically yes...since reptiles have the dubious stigma of "evil". Thats why its a SNAKE in genisis. the lowest to the ground of all the reptiles. But LITERALLY reptiles.
Ok, The earth is flat, Hillary is hot, the sky is pink, women are sane rational creatures and my penis plays the banjo. see what I did there
The craziest thing, IMO, Icke predicted, was the idea of many alternative realities or dimensions, all existing within the same 'space' but vibrating at different frequencies, so you only sense one reality at a time. He makes the analogy of radio frequencies, and how all the music and chatter from all the radio stations are in the room with you all at once, and when you turn the radio on and tune it to one particular frequency you can just hear that one. He talked about that stuff 30 years ago.
Recently, this has become an actual theory in quantum mechanics, with all the mathematics to describe it as well. Apparently this theory solves one of the major problems in theoretical particle physics.
I have always respected Icke for the same reasons you mention. I was never a hater. I do continue to criticise his Alien obsession as well as other hair brained theories - but I will never be a hater. I just lament that many good friends have been led down the garden path of aliens which I believe is completely a psyop - and who unfortunately discredit many other legitimate 'conspiracies'.
I have read Michael Tsarions works in detail, another Alien protagonist, which is unfortunate because he also has many interesting works on the occult & ancient history. I wonder sometimes if it's just a good money spinner or these people genuinely believe it. Perhaps it's an inability to cope with the possibility that humans really can be this evil. At least that is what my experience is with emotionally unstable, often drug addicted hippies / new agers who buy this stuff. Check out Project Avalon forum - that's a really strange alien cult.
That's the problem, and if the latest fake news shitstorm doesn't prove that nothing will.
Yeah, I couldn't remember if the hologram over Bush was from Cathy O'Brien or Taylor Bryce, thanks for the correction.
And the problem is that these people really do like to put information to the public, and then go back on it and make it look like it was all fake; as seen with the cpp weirdness, because honestly if I didn't experience the cpp - fake news media thing myself I don't think I would have believed me if somebody told me about it 20 years from now... you know? It's just that bizarre.
Did they allow Cathy O'Brien and Taylor Bryce to do their favorite game, which is to put out some information and nobody believes it?
Then they get to go back over it and disinformation the shit out of it through their msm fake news stories?
I don't know who is part of that and who's not, and I'm guessing that's what the controlling shitheads want us all to be..... confused!
Bastards!
One thing I do believe that pizzagate is real - I just don't know how deep it goes, but it seems to go deep.
Well said OP. I remember the day DI was interviewed by Wogan and called himself the son of God. Must have been 30 year ago. The ridicule that man endured for his belief is amazing. But now that what he says is coming true people call him 'controlled opposition'. It's the ones doing the calling who is 'controlled opposition'!!
I remember that. He's had a long, strange road, but I don't get anything sinister from him. And the OP's point is more relevant than you think, whiny bitches complaining. Just ignore the before it's news links...shit site.
If you think they were letting abdullah in the royal family you're crazy. they have to marry in the family, they are all documented cousin fuckers. they all have that inbred look
David Icke educated me about the multi-decade bait-and-switch between paper money and gold, and the insidious injustice of fractional reserve banking. He lost me on the lizard man thing, though - but I see your point.
If the lizard man thing is just a kite he flies to avoid being erased, then he's even cleverer than i thought
That's always been my thought. Most of his shit is true, but the reptilian stuff he pushes so he sounds crazy, and becomes free to say whatever truth he wants in-between.
I have to disagree with you on that one. They found paint on Diana's limo from another vehicle that night. Which means her car was struck by another vehicle which is not in the official account. They tracked the owner of the vehicle and he was a known intelligence employee. 2 years later this intel guy was found burned to death in his vehicle. Sorry but I can't remember names. Philip was also known to be completely against Diana's relationship with Fayed because he was Egyptian. There is actually a recording of Phillip saying this.
aaah, burned to death. That is a favorite molech ritual of the 9th circle and lesser elite groups -- passing through the fire sacrifice. That one is saved for big rituals. And Diana was a big ritual. I knew it was a murder when she died, but only now I'm able to piece together the who and why.
I'm not sure the American masonic version are as picky and precise on things, maybe a little more hillbilly and not as precise on exact details.
Yup just like how vince foster killed himself and apparently levitated to a park bench on a dirt trail, since he had no dirt on his shoes. However, his body was covered in carpet fibers. Must be a symptom of levitation lol.
He is relevant
enough
, imo, since he sort of falls into that Ted Gunderson/Alex Jones category of people who were way ahead of the curve in the fight to out the global elite as a bunch of child-abusing occultist psycopaths.
Believing Icke's theories are ridiculous is lazy groupthink. If you think it's possible that the Queen eats babies, then it's certainly possible that she may be an alien that eats babies. Stephen Hawking himself came out a couple years ago warning against thinking that aliens would be beneficial and kind. So if the one of the smartest men in the world believes that aliens could not only exist, but could be evil, than Icke's theories are perfectly valid. It's like making fun of the fake moon landing. Yeah? That's been proven without a doubt? Sometimes the more a theory is ridiculed, the more likely it is to be true.
That's a hoax video. He never admitted to helping to fake the moon landing, but it's certainly plausible, especially with some of the symbols in The Shining. He did reportedly say however, according to his collaborator in Eyes Wide Shut, that "Hitler was right".
I was messing with you. I got laid up for a while and all I did was research. I am convinced they were faked. And it takes a lot for me (I have to live with my wife).
He's been crazy correct about pretty much everything relating to the current exposure to The global human trafficking ring,"Pizzagate".
So I'm not even going to look into the reptilian shit because I can't even be confident he's wrong. Like a couple months ago, I'd say a handful of conspiracy's were true.... Now I'm the point where I'm looking for past conspiracy theories, That I dismissed in the past without even giving it a chance, and they all seem plausible as fuck now. Fuck, I would even give some of them a chance... But they still seem like bullshit to me. I actually got pissed at them because I thought they gave the "True conspiracy Theories" a bad name. Like, Fuck me.
I don't need to learn the truth about reptilians at this point. It's too much. If there are reptilian overlords, I'm moving to and Island and living out the rest of my life on hallucinogenic drugs.
I know watch some of his lectures David Icke is strikingly accurate about such matters. He provides a lot of consistent thoroughly researched evidence for his claims. Don't know about the reptilian agenda but his discussions on pedophilia and occult practices is damn stunning in its entirety. Just don't know how he would get away with it as many have lost their lives trying to expose such matters. Just look at Max Biers and others its something that if you try to expose on a public forum that involves certain elites its like a guaranteed d notice.
Like a couple months ago, I'd say a handful of conspiracy's were true.... Now I'm the point where I'm looking for past conspiracy theories, That I dismissed in the past without even giving it a chance, and they all seem plausible as fuck now.
What if I told you the European Union was racist n by a bunch of mad occultist who are recreating the Babylon myth?
Probably my most popular blog article, shared hundreds of times on social media
The reptilian part refers to psychopaths' lack of care. The r-complex (i.e., reptile brain) of human neurophysiology is responsible for fear. The limbic system, or mammalian brain is responsible for care (e.g., caring for others, or sympathy). Finally, the neocortex is responsible for abstract thought. A psychopath has a functioning r-complex (i.e., reptile brain) and neocortex, but the limbic system is broken—hence they're called reptilians.
That's simply not an accurate characterization of Icke's claims. He claims there are multi-dimensional beings who are reptilian shape-shifters. Zero proof/evidence. Clearcut disinformation.
It doesn't matter what particular form evil takes. I used to think like you, and then one day I simply understood Icke's message. I believe Icke uses the magic of metaphor and allegory for a very specific and necessary reason—perhaps to stay alive; I don't know.
The real issue is that it doesn't matter what form the vampires take. Icke has been instrumental in my understanding of these forces—I can't thank him enough for his part in trying to save humanity
There is no correlation between Psychopathy and Paedophilia. There is however a strong link between Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Pedos.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1445681
I've been delving pretty heavily in to the Antarctica shit lately, with John Kerry and Buzz Aldrin randomly flying there its peaked my interest. I completely brushed it off in the past as interesting but unlikely, now its starting to seem pretty plausible.
I'm still not 100% on the Antarctica conspiracies but they are really interesting, I'm not sure what it would take for me to be to really believe it but Pizzagate coming to light has put me from 75% to 100% on the existence of an international human trafficking ring run by high profile elites and protected by government agencies throughout the world. There far are too many coincidences throughout history for nothing to be here.
Now I am starting to think about how they all may be interconnected and wondering if that's insane or not.
The Antarctic conspiracy is related to the flat earth story..
I know the programmed knee jerk reaction is how ridiculous, but I'd say that 1 year ago.. I've believed in globe earth my whole life like everyone.. But not this past year or anymore.. Watch jeranism channel on youtube.. Go back about a year and start watching.. Flat earth will blow your fucking mind once the penny drops!
Don't mock it until you've really looked into it. Flat earth is related to all this shit with the elite and their obsession with control and living forever and so much more.
I've watched many of Eric Dubuy's flat earth/Antarctica videos. You can't argue with the math. Our programming is just too complete, though, to accept it at first glance. This one def takes some getting used to.
Research rainbow bombs, amature Rockets hitting dome, no curvature, fake iss and nasa cgi.. Space is fake and so is all the lovely computer graphics of space.. Its all bullshit!
Not only the recent past. I'm starting to wonder how much of he old folklore is based on stuff we are only just uncovering in their modern form. Vampires, fair folk, werewolves, oh my!
Telling your kids not to follow strange lights in the woods is great advice if whatever passed for pedosatanists existed in those days in one form or another.
I think you just read my mind.
Between the cannablistic desensitization more than I ever dreamed was going on (I never even dreamed it was going on anywhere but psycho's like Dahmer), and who knows what other shit, I feel like you...
We have to clean up this shit !
This is what I get for being tolerant, innocent and equal minded -- then shit comes in the door covered in pizza and I was stupid enough to think it's actual food!
This post is off topic but Icke did directly address pizzagate in an "I told you so" video. He said this child pedophile ring existed years ago. No one wanted to believe it.
I think people who think taxation (taking people's money at gunpoint for a moral "higher purpose") is an acceptable aspect of society are scarier than people who think lizards walk the earth. :)
I respect that he shared a lot of info, but when he ate the alleged reptilian skin given by an African shaman, or holy man, he lost something for me.
Even if I didn't believe in reptillians I wouldn't have eaten this, but if I did believe in them I REALLY wouldn't have eaten it.
That said, I think it was Taylor Bryce who said she saw a hologram like image over Bush Sr during a ritual, and perhaps there's projection of internal duality psychology, or who knows, but did he ever explain why in hells name he'd eat something he considers to be reptile skin?
I have done my own thing for ''the cause'' starting May 22, 2016 I went deeper and deeper inward to look into the split (the dark/light which pedo bdsm groups might call dominos) that chooses on all kinds of levels.
I denounced the external projections of such split off creations in all their forms.
It's been a whirlwind ever since.
Maybe you're right, if he didn't go a little off he may have been suicided, but it does leave room for consideration if these guys are used as disinformation controlled opposition.
I wish him the best, but.....
-- trust no one --
I am not a huge fan of Icke, especially the reptile bs (and yes that part is bs). With that being said, he has been spot on in regards to a helluva lot of other conspiracies that have been proven to be true.
▼ 00-00
I have a lot of respect for Icke, the material he covers is immense. I think we all to one extent or another have our limits in what we are willing to accept when things he says goes against our beliefs (be they purely scientific material rationalism or in some way religious), especially when there is so little evidence for some of the things.
One of his best presentations in my opinion is this one: Big brother and the big picture. No reptiles there but lots of remarkable stuff, like his concept of Problem, Reaction, Solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGAkM_AiIT0
The way I see it with people such as Icke is you try they say against your best judgment and accept what ever is reasonable, file the rest away for later consideration or even as pure lunacy, but you gotta give the man respect for depth of his life's work's investigation. Personally I have a hard time accepting his religious new agey ideas about vibrational states of consciousness, the importances of colors and so forth, the ascended masters he claims to talk to etc... ("Pure love is the only truth everything else is illusion.")
Recently, however I got my world-view challenged yet again to the point of even considering the pesky reptiles as I recently discovered Carolyn Hamlett, self proclaimed survivor of sexually abusive mind control, self proclaimed member of the Illuminati as well as high ranking member of the "satanic hierarchy". Almost everything is based on repressed memories, out of body experiences, yet somehow I find her words truthful, hard to explain why in rational terms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI7buoeavj0 http://beyondthephysical.blogspot.se/search/label/Illuminati%20Pedophilia http://www.blogtalkradio.com/discoveringthetruth/2015/10/29/project-montauk-exposed-by-illuminati-insiders
Now this rabbit hole is just about as deep as they go and would seemingly take a lifetime to explore, I was surprised of the sheer amount of information available, so I don't want to derail the current investigation by any means, explore if you are drawn to it. I find the character of Daniel Duval to be somewhat shady, yet he brings a lot of DID people to his radio program where their testimonies are contained.
Perhaps I add a trigger warning to more scientifically minded people all this is Christian and they will preach on you...
▼ Millennial_Falcon
Fair enough, but how about we flair every Icke post with some kind of "reptilians are disinfo" warning?
▼ Sentastixc
If you would have listened or read how Icke comes to this "cray stuff" you wouldn't think it's crazy.
I suggest, open your mind and do some homework.
▼ Bolux
Could you be any more wrong,you can't call a shooting an accident.
▼ cayenne-peppe
The best I've seen. 'Unlawful Killing' Princess Diana Banned Documentary 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmsfh_FQWG0
▼ 00-00
What is being uncovered in this documentary is truly remarkable, complete with the the dishonest media. The court called it not a accident but used the term unlawful killing and the media refused to report on it.
▼ Piscina
Alot of people believe in reptilian aliens interbreeding with humans. The theory is that there are some benign, benevolent alien species who look over us, trying to help humans. Then there are other aliens who, while not evil, simply view us with cold-hearted indifference. I've never met one so I've got no idea.
▼ Antoinette
He is a storyteller! And a good one! Titus frost was mentioning the strange sounds of trumpets, now I think david talked about the first recorded writing about the building of the pyramids, it was mentioned they were build by the sound off trumpets! I looked into that! So interesting! Titus should look into that, but I have no way to contact him. ???
▼ haggl
I think your right, the reptilian stuff has kept him alive, or maybe he's right about that too who knows this satanic pedo stuff is already so crazy.
▼ srayzie
I have been watching his videos and even tho this reptilian stuff sounds crazy, it could be true. This guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about. He may know why these Satanic elites seem to have no souls. He's worth listening to.
▼ SheSaidDestroy
Controlled opposition is such a highly strategic move on the part of the corrupt elites, and especially with the U.S. government giving itself legal authority to spread propaganda to U.S. citizens (which works for both MSM material but also with controlled opposition material, they can tap both angles), that people would have to be pants-on-head to not be vigilant about the possibility with anyone who has achieved significant popularity/attention and thus has the power to influence the opinions of many thousands to several millions of followers.
So in that regard, the question I ask is, is this person/group's participation helping or harming the cause of raising awareness and/or gaining credibility? With David Icke, his most famous conspiracy theory content is the reptilian stuff, and that is what people are going to see/read/watch when they look him up. So having him become prominent on the topic of pizzagate is more harmful than helpful.
And then the best defense anyone has for the guy, is that he had to use reptilian talk to keep himself from being murdered. So in other words, that he allows himself to be used as a prominent figure for discrediting topics, is excusable because ultimately he did it for himself. And we are supposed to feel.. okay with that? Personally, I don't.
I also reject the fallacy that you can't criticize someone unless you have done everything they have done. I see that fallacy all the time, and it's bogus no matter who is using it or for what. I'm not a dentist, but if a dentist screwed up my teeth, I could sure as hell notice it and I could sure as hell criticize them for it. That I haven't been making conspiracy theorists look bad for years allegedly in order to cover my own ass, is a moot point.
▼ cosmicmind
I can't imagine that Philip, Liz or Charles really cared that much. Are they capable of normal feelings like normal people. These royals have been doing things for power and prestige for centuries above all else. And we know Charles wasn't into Diana anyway, so I don't think there was much love lost there.
▼ Weightstone
its called Credibility.
He obviously never heard the idiom 'don't throw the baby out with the bathwater'. its what makes conspiracy theorists, look like conspiracy nuts. and yes people in general will dismiss anything he has to say as bullshit, because he comes out with retarded things like reptiles rule the world. metaphorically yes...since reptiles have the dubious stigma of "evil". Thats why its a SNAKE in genisis. the lowest to the ground of all the reptiles. But LITERALLY reptiles.
Ok, The earth is flat, Hillary is hot, the sky is pink, women are sane rational creatures and my penis plays the banjo. see what I did there
▼ whitehand
Well I knew it but your point is well taken for the majority.
▼ SpikyAube
The craziest thing, IMO, Icke predicted, was the idea of many alternative realities or dimensions, all existing within the same 'space' but vibrating at different frequencies, so you only sense one reality at a time. He makes the analogy of radio frequencies, and how all the music and chatter from all the radio stations are in the room with you all at once, and when you turn the radio on and tune it to one particular frequency you can just hear that one. He talked about that stuff 30 years ago.
Recently, this has become an actual theory in quantum mechanics, with all the mathematics to describe it as well. Apparently this theory solves one of the major problems in theoretical particle physics.
▼ MoonWalker68
I have always respected Icke for the same reasons you mention. I was never a hater. I do continue to criticise his Alien obsession as well as other hair brained theories - but I will never be a hater. I just lament that many good friends have been led down the garden path of aliens which I believe is completely a psyop - and who unfortunately discredit many other legitimate 'conspiracies'.
I have read Michael Tsarions works in detail, another Alien protagonist, which is unfortunate because he also has many interesting works on the occult & ancient history. I wonder sometimes if it's just a good money spinner or these people genuinely believe it. Perhaps it's an inability to cope with the possibility that humans really can be this evil. At least that is what my experience is with emotionally unstable, often drug addicted hippies / new agers who buy this stuff. Check out Project Avalon forum - that's a really strange alien cult.
▼ cosmicmind
That's the problem, and if the latest fake news shitstorm doesn't prove that nothing will. Yeah, I couldn't remember if the hologram over Bush was from Cathy O'Brien or Taylor Bryce, thanks for the correction. And the problem is that these people really do like to put information to the public, and then go back on it and make it look like it was all fake; as seen with the cpp weirdness, because honestly if I didn't experience the cpp - fake news media thing myself I don't think I would have believed me if somebody told me about it 20 years from now... you know? It's just that bizarre. Did they allow Cathy O'Brien and Taylor Bryce to do their favorite game, which is to put out some information and nobody believes it?
Then they get to go back over it and disinformation the shit out of it through their msm fake news stories? I don't know who is part of that and who's not, and I'm guessing that's what the controlling shitheads want us all to be..... confused! Bastards!
One thing I do believe that pizzagate is real - I just don't know how deep it goes, but it seems to go deep.
▼ Betty_Swollocks
Well said OP. I remember the day DI was interviewed by Wogan and called himself the son of God. Must have been 30 year ago. The ridicule that man endured for his belief is amazing. But now that what he says is coming true people call him 'controlled opposition'. It's the ones doing the calling who is 'controlled opposition'!!
Long live David Icke.
▼ postfascion
I remember that. He's had a long, strange road, but I don't get anything sinister from him. And the OP's point is more relevant than you think, whiny bitches complaining. Just ignore the before it's news links...shit site.
▼ mysecretidentity
If you think they were letting abdullah in the royal family you're crazy. they have to marry in the family, they are all documented cousin fuckers. they all have that inbred look
▼ srayzie
Well said lol
▼ postfascion
Exactly, if you're gonna make Muslims enemy number one, its gonna be harder to do when the heir to the throne has one of them as a father in law.
▼ MolochHunter
David Icke educated me about the multi-decade bait-and-switch between paper money and gold, and the insidious injustice of fractional reserve banking. He lost me on the lizard man thing, though - but I see your point. If the lizard man thing is just a kite he flies to avoid being erased, then he's even cleverer than i thought
▼ Bolux
Good call, do you think that's why Alex Jones acts like a loudmouth blithering idiot.
▼ psilocyber_
That's always been my thought. Most of his shit is true, but the reptilian stuff he pushes so he sounds crazy, and becomes free to say whatever truth he wants in-between.
▼ OrwellKnew
Great points. Icke may be tossing out the reptilian stuff as a smoke screen. But the substance of what he says on everything else is spot on
▼ whitehand
I have to disagree with you on that one. They found paint on Diana's limo from another vehicle that night. Which means her car was struck by another vehicle which is not in the official account. They tracked the owner of the vehicle and he was a known intelligence employee. 2 years later this intel guy was found burned to death in his vehicle. Sorry but I can't remember names. Philip was also known to be completely against Diana's relationship with Fayed because he was Egyptian. There is actually a recording of Phillip saying this.
▼ cosmicmind
aaah, burned to death. That is a favorite molech ritual of the 9th circle and lesser elite groups -- passing through the fire sacrifice. That one is saved for big rituals. And Diana was a big ritual. I knew it was a murder when she died, but only now I'm able to piece together the who and why.
I'm not sure the American masonic version are as picky and precise on things, maybe a little more hillbilly and not as precise on exact details.
▼ whitehand
Favorite american tactic is random suicide.
▼ cosmicmind
ah yes, the 3 bullets to the back of the head suicide.
or the we-can't-find-them disappearances. (Larry Sinclair, Monica Peterson, etc)
or the no autopsy and quick burial (Osama bin laden etc).
or the autopsy, but the autopsy reads natural causes.... but no autopsy was done.
▼ whitehand
Yup just like how vince foster killed himself and apparently levitated to a park bench on a dirt trail, since he had no dirt on his shoes. However, his body was covered in carpet fibers. Must be a symptom of levitation lol.
▼ Spindle
I think this fan comment belongs on a David Icke YouTube video, and not on the front page of a #pizzagate investigative subverse.
▼ AdVict0riam
He is relevant enough , imo, since he sort of falls into that Ted Gunderson/Alex Jones category of people who were way ahead of the curve in the fight to out the global elite as a bunch of child-abusing occultist psycopaths.
▼ SlackeryTurnBull
Believing Icke's theories are ridiculous is lazy groupthink. If you think it's possible that the Queen eats babies, then it's certainly possible that she may be an alien that eats babies. Stephen Hawking himself came out a couple years ago warning against thinking that aliens would be beneficial and kind. So if the one of the smartest men in the world believes that aliens could not only exist, but could be evil, than Icke's theories are perfectly valid. It's like making fun of the fake moon landing. Yeah? That's been proven without a doubt? Sometimes the more a theory is ridiculed, the more likely it is to be true.
▼ bopper
Fake moon landing?????
▼ OrwellKnew
Umm, yea. Kubrick admitted to faking the moon landing
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/12/10/stanley-kubrick-allegedly-admits-moon-landings-faked-in-new-film/
▼ SlackeryTurnBull
That's a hoax video. He never admitted to helping to fake the moon landing, but it's certainly plausible, especially with some of the symbols in The Shining. He did reportedly say however, according to his collaborator in Eyes Wide Shut, that "Hitler was right".
▼ bopper
I was messing with you. I got laid up for a while and all I did was research. I am convinced they were faked. And it takes a lot for me (I have to live with my wife).
▼ FuckUredditFuckuSpez
He's been crazy correct about pretty much everything relating to the current exposure to The global human trafficking ring,"Pizzagate".
So I'm not even going to look into the reptilian shit because I can't even be confident he's wrong. Like a couple months ago, I'd say a handful of conspiracy's were true.... Now I'm the point where I'm looking for past conspiracy theories, That I dismissed in the past without even giving it a chance, and they all seem plausible as fuck now. Fuck, I would even give some of them a chance... But they still seem like bullshit to me. I actually got pissed at them because I thought they gave the "True conspiracy Theories" a bad name. Like, Fuck me.
I don't need to learn the truth about reptilians at this point. It's too much. If there are reptilian overlords, I'm moving to and Island and living out the rest of my life on hallucinogenic drugs.
▼ ravensedgesom
I know watch some of his lectures David Icke is strikingly accurate about such matters. He provides a lot of consistent thoroughly researched evidence for his claims. Don't know about the reptilian agenda but his discussions on pedophilia and occult practices is damn stunning in its entirety. Just don't know how he would get away with it as many have lost their lives trying to expose such matters. Just look at Max Biers and others its something that if you try to expose on a public forum that involves certain elites its like a guaranteed d notice.
▼ RedGreenAlliance
What if I told you the European Union was racist n by a bunch of mad occultist who are recreating the Babylon myth?
Probably my most popular blog article, shared hundreds of times on social media
▼ eyeVoated
The reptilian part refers to psychopaths' lack of care. The r-complex (i.e., reptile brain) of human neurophysiology is responsible for fear. The limbic system, or mammalian brain is responsible for care (e.g., caring for others, or sympathy). Finally, the neocortex is responsible for abstract thought. A psychopath has a functioning r-complex (i.e., reptile brain) and neocortex, but the limbic system is broken—hence they're called reptilians.
Recall the cremation of care satanic ritual.
Edit: spelling
▼ Millennial_Falcon
That's simply not an accurate characterization of Icke's claims. He claims there are multi-dimensional beings who are reptilian shape-shifters. Zero proof/evidence. Clearcut disinformation.
▼ eyeVoated
It doesn't matter what particular form evil takes. I used to think like you, and then one day I simply understood Icke's message. I believe Icke uses the magic of metaphor and allegory for a very specific and necessary reason—perhaps to stay alive; I don't know.
▼ Takeitslow
Correct and abuse sexual and other forms fucks with the limbic system big time
▼ veritas_vincit
If that's all Icke is talking about, then he's simply a bad philosopher/terrible scientist in addition to being a good conspiracy theorist.
▼ eyeVoated
The real issue is that it doesn't matter what form the vampires take. Icke has been instrumental in my understanding of these forces—I can't thank him enough for his part in trying to save humanity
▼ Narcissism
There is no correlation between Psychopathy and Paedophilia. There is however a strong link between Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Pedos. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1445681
▼ eyeVoated
save the purposeful confusion of language and splitting of hairs for your gossip girlfriends at the salon
▼ redditfuckingsucksyo
I've been delving pretty heavily in to the Antarctica shit lately, with John Kerry and Buzz Aldrin randomly flying there its peaked my interest. I completely brushed it off in the past as interesting but unlikely, now its starting to seem pretty plausible.
I'm still not 100% on the Antarctica conspiracies but they are really interesting, I'm not sure what it would take for me to be to really believe it but Pizzagate coming to light has put me from 75% to 100% on the existence of an international human trafficking ring run by high profile elites and protected by government agencies throughout the world. There far are too many coincidences throughout history for nothing to be here.
Now I am starting to think about how they all may be interconnected and wondering if that's insane or not.
▼ awakenaware
The Antarctic conspiracy is related to the flat earth story.. I know the programmed knee jerk reaction is how ridiculous, but I'd say that 1 year ago.. I've believed in globe earth my whole life like everyone.. But not this past year or anymore.. Watch jeranism channel on youtube.. Go back about a year and start watching.. Flat earth will blow your fucking mind once the penny drops! Don't mock it until you've really looked into it. Flat earth is related to all this shit with the elite and their obsession with control and living forever and so much more.
▼ badastrid
I've watched many of Eric Dubuy's flat earth/Antarctica videos. You can't argue with the math. Our programming is just too complete, though, to accept it at first glance. This one def takes some getting used to.
▼ redditfuckingsucksyo
I really don't think the earth is flat but I'm kinda leaning towards some version of hollow earth theory seeming pretty plausible.
▼ awakenaware
Research rainbow bombs, amature Rockets hitting dome, no curvature, fake iss and nasa cgi.. Space is fake and so is all the lovely computer graphics of space.. Its all bullshit!
▼ srayzie
I never heard of the Antarctic thing. Now you have me curious to go look
▼ silvertri
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-19/head-of-russian-orthodox-church-visits-antarctic-flock/7184390
▼ redditfuckingsucksyo
Heres the history behind it http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica11.htm
There's a bunch of newer youtube videos too I don't want to link one I haven't watched and I can't find one I think is a good example.
▼ ByTheBook
Not only the recent past. I'm starting to wonder how much of he old folklore is based on stuff we are only just uncovering in their modern form. Vampires, fair folk, werewolves, oh my!
Telling your kids not to follow strange lights in the woods is great advice if whatever passed for pedosatanists existed in those days in one form or another.
▼ cosmicmind
I think you just read my mind. Between the cannablistic desensitization more than I ever dreamed was going on (I never even dreamed it was going on anywhere but psycho's like Dahmer), and who knows what other shit, I feel like you...
We have to clean up this shit !
This is what I get for being tolerant, innocent and equal minded -- then shit comes in the door covered in pizza and I was stupid enough to think it's actual food!
▼ Ciscogeek
Don't feel bad about the past. The important thing is that you're here now, aware, and open to alternative possibilities.
▼ veritas_vincit
I respect Icke for the amount of effort he has poured into his theories.
The trouble is that:
▼ whitehand
This post is off topic but Icke did directly address pizzagate in an "I told you so" video. He said this child pedophile ring existed years ago. No one wanted to believe it.
▼ retreaux
I think people who think taxation (taking people's money at gunpoint for a moral "higher purpose") is an acceptable aspect of society are scarier than people who think lizards walk the earth. :)
▼ cosmicmind
Speaking of taking taxation money, why don't commonwealth countries protest against giving tax money to the richest pedofiles in the world?
▼ whitehand
Valid point lol
▼ cosmicmind
I respect that he shared a lot of info, but when he ate the alleged reptilian skin given by an African shaman, or holy man, he lost something for me. Even if I didn't believe in reptillians I wouldn't have eaten this, but if I did believe in them I REALLY wouldn't have eaten it. That said, I think it was Taylor Bryce who said she saw a hologram like image over Bush Sr during a ritual, and perhaps there's projection of internal duality psychology, or who knows, but did he ever explain why in hells name he'd eat something he considers to be reptile skin?
I have done my own thing for ''the cause'' starting May 22, 2016 I went deeper and deeper inward to look into the split (the dark/light which pedo bdsm groups might call dominos) that chooses on all kinds of levels.
I denounced the external projections of such split off creations in all their forms.
It's been a whirlwind ever since.
Maybe you're right, if he didn't go a little off he may have been suicided, but it does leave room for consideration if these guys are used as disinformation controlled opposition.
I wish him the best, but.....
-- trust no one --
▼ whitehand
I am not a huge fan of Icke, especially the reptile bs (and yes that part is bs). With that being said, he has been spot on in regards to a helluva lot of other conspiracies that have been proven to be true.