madhatter67

I bought it for many years, and it actually has a history of proper investigative journalism, but ever since it ran the Snowdon stuff, it seems to have become a part of the ministry for truth....

For a while after that I stuck with the online comments, because there still seemed to be some there with a grasp of what is really happening in the world.....now, even that is a fucked up echo chamber of mindless "liberal" name calling

Mebbe I finally grew old....Mebbe the world really has gone insane...because now I seem to find more sense in the Daily Mail

juhos

This is common strategy. Connecting all the conspiracies together so you don't want to look into none of them.

SpikyAube

Sad, cos it used to be actually good, with actual investigative journalism going on. It seems like it's in the last 15 years or so that the media has really become completely locked down into spewing state sponsored garbage.

SpikyAube

We should go on the comments of articles like this and tell it like it is and up vote each other. I commented on one person who had been saying pizza gate is not fake, and they'd already deleted it! I genuinely think that taking over comments sections helps, because people like going along with the crowd, so if everyone is mocking the article for lying and posting links to here and other places with the facts, I think it could help.

nomorepepperoni

It's SO FAKE that we need to keep telling people how fake it is and they should only look to MSM for answers.

Sounds like a more benign version of "It's illegal to have [the Wikileaks] emails, so you'll have to find out from us what's in them."

TruthIsProvidence

Next thing you know they'll be censoring the Dyncorp/Halliburton human trafficking scandal from searches & telling you that never happened.

cantsleepawink

No one reads the Guardian anymore.

bodthedog

Article says:

Hillary Clinton is running a child abuse ring from a pizza restaurant You might want to be sitting down for this one: the Democratic presidential candidate and her campaign chief John Podesta are running a child sex ring from the backroom of the Comet Ping Pong restaurant in Washington.

A dinner party – or a possibly satanic ritual, depending on who you believe – thrown by the performance artist Marina Abramović and a napkin with a “pizza-related” map on it are also involved.

🌟Homeboy Chris🌟 ( @TheHomeboyChris ) @johnpodesta this Russia conspiracy ain't gonna get you out of explaining your "map that seems pizza related" on a handkerchief. #PizzaGate

December 12, 2016 Given that the fact the restaurant has the same initials as “child pornography” is put forward as evidence by believers, the truly shocking detail of this completely baseless conspiracy theory is that even one person believed it.

Washington gunman motivated by fake news 'Pizzagate' conspiracy Read more Yet in early December, a 28-year-old man was driven to “self-investigate” the reports, wielding an assault rifle at a employee and firing it inside the restaurant. After his arrest Edgar Welch said he “wanted to do some good and went about it the wrong way”. “I regret how I handled the situation,” he added.

That outlandish allegations posted to the online message board 4Chan and Reddit’s “The Donald” thread for Trump supporters could translate into real-world aggression exacerbated anxiety over the impact of fake news.

Certainly there’s no subject it’s more vital that you “self-investigate” only on trusted news networks. Google “Pizzagate” and you’ll find websites such as “Truthlibrary.Info” that promise “all the facts in one spot” with the user-friendly advice: “WARNING: Turn away now if you do not want to be incredibly disturbed. This is real. Pay attention to ‘pizza’ and ‘cheese’ references throughout, as these are highly likely to be code.” (No, I’m not linking to it.)

If you feel strong enough to venture further down this rabbit hole, the Reply All podcast’s summary is excellent.

NotAnIdiot

These people seem to misunderstand the theory in its entirety. People were always saying Comet was involved and Alefantis was involved. Not Hillary was personally running the ring out of a back room. They're just creating strawmen of people that said that to make it look ridiculous. I could go on too.

Cuboctahedron

I'm guessing that the only reason the article was written was to discredit Pizzagate.

SpikyAube

Makes me feel so sick. They haven't even got a clue what PG is looking into - either that or they are deliberately covering it up. I genuinely think it's for the majority of journalists a case of them being arrogant and lazy and in a bubble and would never even consider suggesting it could be real or should be investigated, because they're worried their friends would laugh at them. It's so depressing to see what the majority are still thinking about this. The media is way too powerful, and people are way too brainwashed.

doolord

This is too much bullshit for me to handle. Just added The Guardian to my shit list. We're approaching dangerous levels of propaganda and narrative spinning.

Pwner1775

you should try wnd.com

doolord

Server down

bodthedog

Their comment section is enabled and there are lots of shills there, I'm fairly sure anyway. Lots of discussion about the other theorys, any mention of pizzagate is met with "there is no evidence". Wouldn't it be a shame if someone was to correct this person?

Anyways for me now, the Guardians new name will be... The Fake News Guardian.

The way the commenters on the guardian are typing looks very suspicious. Same as the entire article. All written to give no credibility. No balance whatsoever.

SpikyAube

Their name should be The Guardian... of the satanist pedophile establishment and their secret appalling crimes.

derram

https://archive.is/zLZ51 :

The Earth is flat, Trump is a Democrat … and other great conspiracy theories of 2016 | World news | The Guardian

'The singer of the US pop trio Terror Jr is known only by the alias Lisa Terror, and hides her face behind her hair in promotional images. '

'If 2016 was the year facts didn’t matter, when Oxford Dictionaries declared we went “post-truth”, it makes sense that conspiracy theories flourished. '

'You can see that”) and puts forward the physical similarity between the two sets of parents as evidence (“same people”). '

'In 2012 Donald Trump tweeted that global warming “was created by and for the Chinese in order to make US manufacturing non-competitive”. '

'This theory dates back to 2014 but resurfaced this year alongside a CBS documentary about the girl’s murder. '

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