Reminder that in 2001 Snopes claimed what is quite clearly an ACTUAL FETUS to be a "plastic doll's head on a duck's corpse", and effectively shut down all investigation into the matter. ( pizzagate )

submitted by Alex_A97

As far back as 2001 Snopes has been actively trying to stifle discussion on controversial content that deserved investigation. Look into the works of "performance artist" Zhu Yu ( warning, pictures are not for the weak-stomached and I truly mean it )

Before - When shown what he did, they are very rarely shown this image

During - Again, very few people have seen this picture

After - the highest res I could find of the most infamous shot

Snopes claims "Zhu Yu acted out a performance in which he appeared to eat a stillborn or aborted child (likely constructed by placing a doll's head on a duck's carcass)"

DO THOSE PICTURES LOOK LIKE A FUCKING PLASTIC DOLL'S HEAD ON A DEAD DUCK'S CORPSE TO YOU?

Wikipedia's article on Yu has 15 sources in a row peddling the doll/duck narrative: https://i.sli.mg/Ynmook.png

In addition, here is what Zhu himself said about his "art":

"No religion forbids cannibalism, nor can I find any law which prevents us from eating people."

"I took advantage of the space between morality and the law and based my work on it."

And even better, here are some of Yu's other "works":

  • The Foundation of All Epistemology : This work appeared in the 1998 group exhibition It’s All Right in Shanghai. For this piece, Zhu Yu cut and boiled five human brains which were purchased from a local hospital. He placed them in neatly labeled jars that he then signed with his own name. Zhu put these jars of brains up for sale in a market that sponsored the exhibit. He ended up selling 15 bottles each for the price of 98 yuans.
  • Pocket Theology : Appearing in the 1999 group exhibition Post-Sense Sensibility- Alien Bodies & Delusion in Beijing, curated by Wu Meichun and Qiu Zhije. A long coiling rope was gripped by a severed, decomposing arm which was suspended by a meat hook. This display was held in a small room in the basement that was being rented by a group of Chinese artists who organize the exhibition. Viewers were forced to walk over the rope which filled the entire space.
  • Skin Graft : This performance art installation appeared in the 2000 exhibition Infatuation with Injury organized by Li Xianting. In the exhibit, Zhu uses his own flesh as a canvas. Photos were shown of trunk of a quartered pig lying on a hospital bed. Zhu grafted a piece of his own skin onto a section of damaged skin from the pig. Two photos of this process appeared in the exhibit; one that showed the surgical process, and another which featured the artist sewing his own skin onto the pig carcass. Zhu stood by the exhibit and lifted his shirt to show the scar which stood as evidence of the procedure.

Every single search into this weird man's antics always sends me to some useful idiot copy-pasting Snopes. The only site on the whole internet that I could find that questions it at all is fucking STORMFRONT of all sites. It's pretty goddamn sad when the only site that dares to challenge the Snopes narrative is a forum for White Supremacists.

Oh, and by the way, China has had an actual confirmed booming fetus trade for years, the real news says so: http://archive.is/DEiYh

Ghoulwithnojob

Fuck I saw this photo on 'rotten.com' probably like 10 or more years ago and always thought it looked too real to be faked 😐

Tevelyn

A fetus wouldn't have a healed "belly button" Sure, it's not a duck corpse, but it's also not a real fetus. Duh

Alex_A97

Because in their eyes, Snopes is infallible. If it looks like a baby, crawls like a baby and cries like a baby but Snopes says it's a duck, then it's a duck. They do not understand that Snopes isn't the ultimate authority on internet rumors and occasionally they do get things wrong from time to time, something they have done much more frequently as of late.

zoot3d

I honestly didn't even look. Was at work and I don't think it'd be appropriate, lol. I can imagine enough that it was probably pretty terrible.

Strait8

I am far, far, far from being a sheltered person in this life. Seen more evil than I would have cared to.

But all of the shit being exposed through pizzagate makes me question everything. I am Christian but will no longer participate in communion. Body and blood of Christ.... I'll pass on that now. I believe in God. Mans religion's are a corruption of God's law.

notnatural

I chose not to look at the pictures but did notice this: "No religion forbids cannibalism, nor can I find any law which prevents us from eating people."

JoJoVoat

omg I've never seen those pix before,

Pizzagatethrowaway

I actually gagged looking at those photos. My god our world is so screwed.

EyesWideScared

Of course it's a freaking baby! Why would Snopes dispute it?

notArobott

For fucks sake, ducks do not have ten fingers, ten toes, human anklebones, a belly button, and human genitals.

concernedaboutitall

That is truly disgusting. And NOT art. Prayers for that baby.

SlackeryTurnBull

I don't see anything to indicate the middle picture was connected with this. And the last picture of him actually eating it could definitely be a duck with a doll head.

OpenSoulOpenMind

Did you not see the chopped off legs on the table?...

And the face/head looks the same as the first picture...this is real..and disturbing

Celticgirlonamission

I've seen many fetus' due to my line of work, those pics are of a fetus without a doubt

preacher_1893

can you explain which part convinced you to think so? My mental diagram did got a shock like the first time I saw the shotgun beheading of ISIS.

Celticgirlonamission

fetus looks to be about 19 weeks old...I work in emergency medicine and have seen many, many fetus'(miscarriages) and lots of traumas from GSW, auto accidents and many other tragic happenings. Yes it does give you PTSD when you see these things in realtime...at least any normal person it does

fartyshorts

Here, you can clearly see fingers: https://transgressivechineseart.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/zhu-yu-eating-people_3.jpg

More: http://images.says.com/uploads/story_source/source_image/213816/142d.jpeg

"Zhu admitted that the meat obtained from the bodies tasted bad, and said he had vomited several times while eating it. However, he said, he had to do it 'for art's sake'" ("Baby-Eating")"

Making me a bit sick, whether it's real or not.

micha_

CULTURAL MARXISM

retreaux

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Yu_(artist)

"Eating People: In his performance art piece Eating People, Zhu photographs himself cooking and eating a human fetus that he divided into five parts. Zhu says that “I herewith announce my intention and my aim to eat people as a protest against mankind’s moral idea that he/she cannot eat people.” [28] In further response to Zhu’s bold performance, The Ministry of Culture cited a menace to social order and the spiritual health of the Chinese people, and banned exhibitions involving culture, animal abuse, corpses, and overt violence and sexuality.[26][29] However, this piece did not even appear at the exhibit; The night before the exhibition, Ai Weiwei collaborated with Zhu and the photographs were removed from the gallery. This piece was thought particularly controversial, and organizers did not want to risk government censorship for the rest of the exhibit. The response to this work stemmed from its appearance on the internet shortly after. Eating People appeared in Malaysia's Perdan Weekly without caption and generated the question of whether eating babies was accepted in Asia on various myth-debunking websites."

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zoot3d

The point is that snopes "debunked" it - not what this man did

Kwijibo

Probably should be marked NSFW

NiggerJusticeWarrior

Probably shouldn't be on this sub at work

Kwijibo

Yeah, but still NSFW/L

NiggerJusticeWarrior

So is everything else here. The tags are unnecessary

goodguy1367

Wow... That's probably the worst picture I've seen yet in this whole investigation. I could only look long enough to realize what it is and fuck, I've seen enough. Fake head on a duck? What the actual fuck is that sickening shit.

mrjdouble

Agreed, out of all this fucked up shit, that was also the most difficult for me to look at :...(

2impendingdoom

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1509834

thread about snopes. looks like a snopes researcher is a porn addict, the site's owners are a disaster and one of them remarrried a hooker who ran for office. You'll want to read the details in this story, they are precious.

arrggg

This and all the slazy deatails about snopes needs to be plastered everywhere.

hopeforall

Chinese are known for forced abortion.

Alex_A97

Addendum, paraphrased from Wikipedia which I opted not to include in the OP.:

"Yu's most famous piece of conceptual art, titled "Eating People," was performed at a Shanghai arts festival in 2000. It consisted of him cooking and eating what is alleged to be a human fetus. The picture, circulated on the internet via e-mail in 2001, provoked investigations by both the FBI and Scotland Yard. It was intended as "shock art"..."

"Other images from another art exhibit were falsely circulated along with Zhu Yu's photos and claimed to be evidence of fetus soup. The piece's cannibalistic theme caused a stir in Britain when Yu's work was featured on a Channel 4 documentary exploring Chinese Contemporary Art in 2003..."

"Yu has claimed that he used an actual fetus which was stolen from a medical school. He was prosecuted for his deeds."

Make of this what you will.

zzvoat

Thanks for the warning; I didn't bite.

GoHeadBeGoneWithIt

ewwwww why did i look at that

Lunari

I had no idea that ducks had 5 fingers / 5 toes. I'm a dumbass - I for some reason thought ducks had wings and webbed bird feet lmao.

redberries

Holy shit, I remember this!

Truly what you call "hidden in plain sight", right in your fucking face. Snopes is savage.

And NO, that does NOT LOOK LIKE A FUCKING DUCK TO ME. What the fuck is wrong with people?

redditsuckz

Snopes owned by (((The Mikkelsons))) ...so they are just covering up for what their "Tribe" does and what they do...no biggie...