grlldcheese is a troll just ignore him

Good points again. Something more organized so I could put up the leads regarding Australia and Twiggy Forrest's organization which has many detractors as well as the hypothesis I have about NATO's involvement. Also I found info about R Bauman from Franklin Scandal and linking him to "Strategic Investment" and Mossack Fonseca panama papers but can't/haven't been able to link him/them back to pizzagate. Maybe money laundering$ Sexual predators are generally repeat offenders and tend to escalate more than cease their deviant behaviors. Just when I think the leads are slowing there will be a lead about the story in AZ initially reported as child trafficking in million dollar home and media is told to stop reporting as human trafficking and nothing more is said...

Are you talking about: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1510198 Facebook's fact checkers linked to Clinton donors ?

(where you argue that this post is not related to pizzagate)

This post is maybe one of the most critical in order to redpill the masses:

"People checking if a story is fakenews or not, are Clinton donors. Do you think they will talk you about Pizzagate ????"

It's war here: Clinton/MSM VS pizzagate investigators/Internet

What is MSM most dangerous weapon ? => the "#FakeNews" flag !

What this thread is about ? The fakenews flag is bullshit because tied to Clinton donors. I think this should go sticky...

Shut the fuck up

I agree. At first it sounded like a good idea to restrict who could vote but in the long run all it's done is hurt people that only come here and don't shitpost for points or cheat the system in other ways.

This place went to shit a while ago. I barely visit anymore and stick to productive private groups. This place is nothing but shills, trolls and nut jobs pushing their own agendas.

Not overly comfortable with IRC but wasn't and still not really comfortable with Voat. Is the chat on the sidebar an IRC? New hyper-focused leads and investigations I think should have subs of countries and others of course. I'm hanging in there no matter what but I understand the struggle with downvoating and where they come in and wipe out voaters is scary

The duplicates are just going to happen, but we are smart enough to be okay with that and be glad new people are showing up.

moving the info to the wiki would work better and new subscribers should be encouraged to do this.

When you are here for a while, its easy to recognize duplicate threads and ignore them. Otherwise just politely inform the new poster that older threads can be found using the search tool or the wiki and move on, encourage them to post new info only and use descriptive titles. I don't think it helps our cause to alienate new subscribers, they could be a great source of new leads.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/22/david-miliband-isnt-the-messiah-who-will-return-to-save-labour-f/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_em

Picture of Miliband, "trying a piece of pizza."

I would really like to see a separate research sub where people like me can drop possible leads without having to face the 'shill' calls. The community could then decide if those leads are worth investigation or not.

I cant know if what I have found is useful or not. When I post something it is in the hope that it will be of assistance to those more able, or more knowledgeable than me. I will never be a top pizzagate contributor (and dont wish to be so either). I do however want to help in whatever limited capacity that I can. Currently I get called out for doing exactly that. A research sub would solve that.

What is absolutely evident is this: If we post something here and it is genuinely pizza related - even though we dont know how well related / or we cant prove it - the pizza pusher involved will be aware of it and his / her ability to push pizza will be harmed just by the act of posting their information as a possible lead.

This is only true if they are actually hiding something and should not cause harm to any innocent person whose information is questioned - This is an investigation - there is no crime in asking questions or pointing out facts as they exist on the internet, even if the community consensus is that the information is not truly related. (Please point out any deficiencies in my argument if they are there)

We need a research sub where we can dump EVERYTHING we have. There are only so many false / bad leads that can be provided.

Your post also breaks rule 3 ironically. You could have posted to a few rule-3 breaking posts... OP i agree with you but your own post is part of the problem. I think think maybe a pizzameta might be good. Although I understand it might be important for some, I personally loath posts here that do not directly advance the investigation.

This includes all "watch out for /fuck the for shills" .. Stop it guys, we know. Maybe we need v/antishill too.

In principle I agree with you, but please let me be devil's advocate for a second...and what I am basing my argument on is the meteoric rise and ultimate success of The_Donald. I started over there maybe 4-6 weeks before Pizzagate became a thing. When r pizzagate split off, I pretty much spent all my time there and ultimately de-activated my reddit account and came here.

There were times that it (T_D) was a mess due to shills and various modes of fuckery....but the feel of the place was welcoming and overwhelmingly positive. The negatives were overcome through meme magic, shit posting and ultimately growing the white hat population to where they could down vote shills into oblivion and upvote the good guys.

So my point is that keeping things too narrow and rigid may put the brakes on Pizzagate. There should be a place for shit posting and meme magic....laughing and having fun are good, especially with a topic this heavy and depressing. Also, FBI anon said meme magic is real!

For the off topic or inappropriate threads or comments, it is our duty to just down voat them into oblivion and ignore them, while upvoating the white hats. It will work itself out eventually...just have patience and be positive IMO.

Also, I don't know if I am a fan of new people having to be invited to join this community....seems like it might put the brakes on the pizzagate train? I could be wrong on this one and I am open to be ELI5'ed.

Edit: Forgot to address OP...it is awesome you are a hard core in the weeds researcher kind of guy..seriously. But any large community will need court jesters, bakers, sword makers etc...so that the warriors can do the heavy lifting...Just because their focus and abilities may not be the same as yours, as long as they are down with the cause and spreading the word they should still have a seat at the table...know what I mean? I think we are more effective under one big tent as opposed to fragmented groups...

The mods were compromised a long time ago. They want this to be a huge mess to make us less efficient. I left after AnyFucker went and started deleting all my posts. I am no longer contributing, VOAT has just become a distraction from my own research.

Will become? "So and so from so and so news outlet has a weird picture of a kid on their FB. They need to be investigated IMMEDIATELY."