Reliability of CP "Code Word" Table ( pizzagate )

submitted by lawexaminer

Because of the heavy scrutiny placed on the facts uncovered in this investigation, accuracy is paramount.

One often repeated fact that seems questionable is the table of "code words", which purports to decrypt certain words used in Podesta’s emails including “pasta” and “walnut sauce”.

As an example of contradicting evidence, prior to the release of the wikleaks emails, several published articles referenced Podesta’s cooking hobby, specifically describing his favorite dishes including pasta with walnut sauce. Here is a quote from one of them:

"Podesta, the campaign chairman and a seasoned cook, made a pasta with walnut sauce for the dinner guests, which included reporters from The New York Times, The Washington Post, Politico, The Wall Street Journal, The Associated Press, Bloomberg, McClatchy, Reuters and several major TV networks."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/10/hillary-clinton-journalists-2016_n_7039814.html

While this doesn't completely discredit the purported code word list, it sure puts it into question. Again, the only point to this post is that researchers ought to be careful when relying on facts that haven’t been substantiated.

AreWeSure

you're assuming that all that leads to crimes.

OTPROPHET

Why not both? The thrill of the psychopath is in "getting away with it" and in the rush of lying and bragging about it. Going back to the Midnight Call Boy scandals during G.W. Bush presidency, D.C. is known for it's exclusive private parties such as the one mentioned above, and then the more exclusive "after party", where the real blackmail-able awfulness ensues. Having a dinner party with pasta and walnut sauce would be a great laugh for a psychopath having an after party with another kind of "pasta and walnut sauce".

Podesta is a known foodie, so the back-and-forth about food is not in itself weird, but certainly the hyper focus on certain keywords and the peculiar turns-of-phrase such as "dominoes on cheese or pasta" does lend credence to use of codes.

PizzaGate is like the evolutionary record, in that the bones need to be laid out side-by-side and in order in order to see the whole picture. One item in particular may seem legit on its own, but becomes questionable and damning in context of a larger story of evidence.

trevor_reznik

there is a book called "investigating child exploitation and pornography" that lists some code words used by pedophiles (doesn't seem like a conclusive list), and one of the words is chicken . i've been trying to follow that thread, and will let you know if i found anything new.

golly

The only thing that can be confirmed is that Cheese Pizza and others that abbreviate to CP are used for years and year, all the other ones are hearsay and only found in urban dictionary. While we see something is up in the mails, many people need a little more to be convinced about it. If we can source more of the code words to strengthen the argument they actually are speaking in code this will greatly help to convince people.

Note that Cum Panda and Comet Pizza also form CP.

AreWeSure

That other email is not from the Podesta emails. People are linking it because it's wikileaks + pizza.

shillcrusher13

I have not seen a reliable, pre-Pizzagate source for this supposed code. God only knows how you can have "pizza for an hour" though, so there's gotta be something weird going on, but I wouldn't be so sure about the total accuracy of that copy pasta list that keeps showing up in every report and youtube video.

Alpo

There are numerous sources for the meaning of "pizza", which can only (as far as I have seen) be confirmed as a general term for pedophilic activity, or for child pornography.. See one here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1488988 . I have not seen confirmation of the other code words.

shillcrusher13

Yeah, and that sucks. These bastards are trying to ruin pizza ( the actual food ) for decent Americans with this garbage. This swamp needs to be drained. Child abusers are as bad as terrorists, and they go hand in hand believe it or not. Look at this Saudi connections to this stuff. Look at Bacha Bazi. It is all related to this investigation!

party1981

Can we confirm that pasta is a known keyword before pizzagate?

Millennial_Falcon

I agree that "walnut sauce" here is probably not code. We debunked that a while back. The original idea that walnut=person of color was just somebody on 4chan spitballing.

https://i.sli.mg/FhHePC.png

AreWeSure

Always wondered why sauce didn't equal semen.

Alpo

You are probably right - the emails about walnut sauce seem normal, except for the part where JP writes, "Haha Jim has no idea what he's talking about." https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30277 What does he mean here?

AreWeSure

That seems completely normal too. It seems that Jim like most Americans has never heard of pasta with Walnut Sauce (a very real Italian dish) and didn't attend the dinner where Podesta served it and he had been hearing that people liked it and he can't believe this is true. He's asking for the straight story and if it was tasty. And Eryn Sepp (not John Podesta) says Haha Jim has no idea! I read this to mean it was delicious. I don't really see any issue with this email thread at all.

And Salsa di Noci (Walnut Sauce) is from the part of Italian where John Podesta's grandfather is from.

2impendingdoom

Its a code, the evidence is circumstantial obviously. There are a shit ton of threads already about this. Please take some time to review those earlier threads and comments. Search is to the right --->

derram

https://archive.is/SMZc9 :

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