speckledcat

He is a zionist shill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nEdvDWcp2M&t=3s

dont trust what he has to say.

speckledcat

he is a zionist shill and needs to fuck off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nEdvDWcp2M&t=3s

VainFaxJax

That's kind of extreme, to call us bat shits, come on, it's not like we seen a walking pizza and came up with 'Pizzagate', we simply followed Assange's leaks and here we are, very interesting case.

VainFaxJax

Here's something refreshing, instead of annoying and criticizing with all these comments against us " Tim foil hatters", whom received this info not from speculation, but insightful info from an organization that has much more insight on this subject than yourself, why don't you stop bothering the free time we have when we look into this case, and go find a hobby yourself, that doesn't involve criticizing, but bettering yourself, which is better than commenting against " tin foils", and more productive. No hard feelings.😋

retreaux

Don't click this link. It's thumbnails of little kids, not regular porn. Probably on an FBI watch list now. Thanks.

grlldcheese

He's such a fucking faggot that I'm checking his shit to dv him when he starts pinging mods to ban me and other faggotry.

But mostly he's just crying in other subs about trolls dving him. He's a fucking hilarious faggot.

ZalesMcMuffin

No, SJWs are militant, not just brainwashed. The brainwashed will roll their eyes at you. SJWs will try to get you fired/censored/shunned.

mrjdouble

Fuck huffpo. Can't believe he even took a job with them. Can confirm, selling out and compromising personal ideals for business or additional economic opportunities is soul crushing.

Cbradio

Please reveal more of you sado maso anal retentive, and expect a bill for therapy and stalking. Santa didn't bring you a new vibrator or batteries?

Cbradio

Okdokey Mr vile, all my spoken word is copyrighted. Would you like more art?

Ronnilynn31

Then why the hell hang out here? If you aren't interested then why take the time to read the posts and comment? Move along if you don't agree. I assure you that your comments will not change one single mind in this forum.

AgainstPedos

It's not that easy to make high quality videos and to attract a regular following. Takes time to build up a name. Film is also rather expensive. The Black Child has been making top quality videos for a very long time and has gained a solid following. Always controversial the creator focuses on the music industry as a way of attracting newbies. Note that the author strongly backed Trump as a means to defeat Hillary and her agenda.

SChalice

Film is so expensive! :)

AgainstPedos

Since the MSM is now owned by only a few billionaires and they're rapidly losing ad revenue due to fewer and fewer subscribers each year they're now way too dependent on those with power and control. If a reporter's story or even personality angers a major supporter or client he/she will be history.

Note the current owner of the NY Times used to own the main newspaper in England. The massive pedo scandal which went on for years was never covered under his watch. Too many powerful people would have shut down his entire paper.

Yuke

Please post with facts. He was the director general for the BBC (not a newspaper) and he is now the CEO of the NY Times (not the owner). And it WAS covered under his watch whilst he was at the BBC, that's the whole point!

AgainstPedos

Just repeating what I was told by other posters on different sites many, many times.

ZalesMcMuffin

Then please correct those others, because they were all misinforming you. Right guy, right media entities, wrong position.

(Carlos Slim owns the NYT now -- in part, at least.)

AgainstPedos

At this point I read and listen to so many different sources daily it would be impossible to find all of them again.

So WHY doesn't Carlos Slim print stories on international pedophilia rings from a variety of sources and views to let the reader decide if the info is true or not? Is Carlos Slim afraid of the loss of advertising from the power elite?

Recall that one Indian-British (or Pakistani-British) journalist who made a name for himself reporting on the Princess Diana controversy and scandals while she was still alive? He received a lot of kudos as he tried to be impartial in relaying the views and complaints of both Diana and reps for Prince Charles and the Queen to allow the listener decide on their own who was right and to what degree. He avoided the overly emotional style of the lurid paps and tabloids. That's who we need now to cover the international aspects of child trafficking for pedophiles and Luciferian rituals on an international scale.

Cbradio

Redirect yourself to worldstarhiphop, after you join the false news on the streets of head bashing gangstas. Plenty of social justice cock sucking you can do there, poser fall guy.

Word on street is cheetph false news has gone viral. Better tuck in your limp cock and run on dally over there with your anal retentive, real quick.But remember, Soros only pays ya if you bend over and suck.

Cbradio

Go find some friends to gossip about your own interests, loser. Sure, you can find some teens, streetfighting, punch in the head style, upload on utube, fb, worldstsr hip hop to give you the sado maso beatings you desperately neuro genital crave, Mr poser follower, expendible, fall guy.

Cbradio

He needs a uppergroundRRale houses, too in planning.

The_Kuru

I don't trust him. He says some fake shit like Andrew Breitbart called Podesta a pedophile and pretends not to know the context of Breitbart's remarks. He might be an agent for the creeps trying to position himself as a leader of the opposition so he can dismantle it. Either way he's a horseshit journalist, which explains why HuffPo hired him in the first place.

ZalesMcMuffin

Time will tell who he really is. In the meantime, it's true that he could -- and should -- tighten up his commentary, and turn people on to newer discoveries too.

Cbradio

Yet..I would hate to outcaste any legit and have them endangered....ethics wise..

markrod420

lol. There is one basement. The one you live in under your parents house you fucking troll loser. Just go kill yourself. Im quite certain you provide little to no value to the world, and with a little introspection im sure you will come to the same conclusion. You are furthering the rape and abuse of children. You are a sick individual. Go search "Webcam video from" on youtube. Take a look at the comments on those sick video of little kids in questionable situations, then tell me we dont have rampant pedophile problems in our society. Fuck you you filthy piece of shit.

feel_the_bern_baby

I have noticed most pizzagaters are homophobic. Gay love is the purest form of love. Pizzagate is fake news.

Cbradio

Your in the wrong subverse. Psych schizo Diddler do is another subverse.

markrod420

Since youtube is mentioned here and i dont know where else to put it since the mods removed it last time. I found a private subreddit that is almost definitely connected to the youtube pedos.

The subreddit is called r/webcamvideo and their description of the sub is as follows "/r/WebcamVideo is a place to post the strange, funny and stupid webcam videos that are on unnamed YouTube. To find videos simply search 'Webcam video from' followed by a date."

Which for anyone who doesnt know, if you search "webcam video from" on youtube you get hundreds of borderline child porn videos.

If anyone has the ability to infiltrate that subreddit somehow it might be helpful to find those involved and dig up more info on them.

Hooliganscat

I have only heard it's "fake news", but never how or why? Strange to make bold pronouncements but deliver no support for them. Now compare your claim to the top posts here... big difference is pizzagate claims are sourced and yours are not.... now I get to the ad hominem... take it someplace else you scum!

feel_the_bern_baby

The police, Snopes, even your beloved Faux News have debunked pizzagate. Quit it.

Hooliganscat

😂 snopes!?! D.C. Police = circlejerk

OrwellKnew

So what are you still doing here, 'tard?

poly

Kinda turns upside down everything you were taught about journalism and freedom of the press

Stukov

Like when Obama quitely signing a bill into law that tramples over freedom of press and speech over christmas?

euclidean

Am I the only one that thinks David Seaman is doing a poor job of documenting the ongoing research in this sub?

He has really only covered the basic/initial findings of pizzagate and has never done in-depth summaries of the new information we've compiled ( https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1517819) ). His videos are just repetitive rambles instead of comprehensive summaries. He needs to get into the nitty gritty details and he has avoided doing so thus far.

Here is an example of a superbly made video which David should strive for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCzgogEQMQs (This video isn't strictly pizzagate related - I'm demonstrating the style of video) These types of videos present actual information with pictures/evidence/infographics and are far more structured than someone rambling on his webcam.

He is an investigative journalist, the most credible researcher we have on our side, yet he simply turns on his webcam, and discusses pizzagate in the most generic fashion, instead of creating 'documentary-style' analysis videos of all current and up-to date research.

witch_doctor1

General has a place too IMO....he tends to ask simple common sense questions to illustrate the hypocrisy of the media and the very real cover up that is going on. David is obviously directing his videos at not yet red-pilled normies.

euclidean

It has it's place, that's true, but it should be balanced with more in depth content for those who want to dig deeper. If people are relying on him for up to date pizzagate info, which I suspect many must be, he needs to at least provide an avenue to where the current discussion is, either by recreating our written investigative work into video format on his own channel, or by telling his subs that voat is the place to go.

witch_doctor1

YES! Agreed. I reached out to him on YouTube and pointed him here, but he never responded. Maybe if some more people politely contacted him in a very sane manner he might respond? I say polite and sane because the dude is probably on edge right now...what with all of the suicides, exploding cars, killer barbells and heart attacks going on right now.

I wonder if the weed helps? I haven't smoked since HS and I don't think I did it right because I just got really F'n hungry and paranoid. Can't wait until my state is legal though...gonna give it another try, for science.

SChalice

He seems a little narcissistic but I think anyone who makes videos of themselves must be.

Cbradio

I think its a combo of what is feasible now and risking the comfort zones. Limits on advocacy occur as go deeper. But do think we need to create group YouTube shows that do not show faces, mirror them, etc. Also, any techies that can create new internet on dig broadband/frequencies, social.platforms like YouTube? I know he has moved to a dif site, just thinking ahead.

Cbradio internet/social sites?

Changing pizzagate to another phrase, let the Dilbert have their untrademarked phrase for they want what they want, when they want it. No sharing in the sandbox, regressed adults.

unrealisthenewreal

I think he's being careful only to comment on what concrete evidence there is. He doesn't want to give YT more reason to shut him down. He is afterall an investigative journalist and is probably trying to verify the massive amount of leads voat researchers have been providing.

euclidean

Well no pizzagate evidence so far is 'concrete'. It's all circumstantial, but what makes that substantial is the sheer number of circumstantial coincidences. His initial videos covered the amanda kleinman speech at CPP and jimmy's instagram pictures - both of which are not 'concrete' - no reason why he can't and shouldn't continue. Youtube will not take him down.

Yuke

I'm going to guess that it was you that down-voted my comment. If it wasn't you, I apologise, if it was you, re-read what I said and tell me where I said something that wasn't accurate. In addition, Dave is saying that he's not doing this and he's not doing that. I have taken a screencap of this video where he says he hasn't slandered anyone https://snag.gy/Xwrgoz.jpg We have to deal in facts, not assumptions and not baseless accusations. This screencap shows that he calls John Podesta a Pedophile; like it or not that is slander (at this point) because we haven't yet technically proven anything. This is the reality of what we are up against; if someone makes an accusation then the other side can pick holes in it, and as things are David Seaman is leaving a lot of holes to be picked at. Me, or anyone else questioning someone should not draw things like down-votes, it is a legitimate part of the investigative process to question everything to ensure its factual accuracy. So, go ahead...find a hole in what I've said.

Votescam

There are videos on YouTube calling Joe Biden a pedophile. Granted his roving hands on young girls can easily be seen in the videos, whereas evidence re John Podesta amounts to email comments which match with code words used by pedophiles. Pedophile art. Invitations to what appear to be Satanic dinners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8o3WUKP8M and this one of little girl in dress with black top/red skirt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2oIM37dWU There is a quite clear copy of that video which I can't find at the moment.

This is a clearer version of Biden's behavior with the little girl with black top/red dress. At about 1:06 on the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8o3WUKP8M

Actually, originally ALL of these videos were crystal clear -- suddenly seem to be being replaced with fuzzy videos.

unrealisthenewreal

Wasn't me that downvoted you. I'm all for an open dialogue. I've also had the same thought regarding David's videos. It does seem like a regurgitation of what I've already discovered on voat. Just wanted to offer the flip side of why he's not going into more detail that we see here on voat. His video are pretty palatable to a main stream audience so I hope he doesn't back down. Although, it would be nice for him to throw up a link directing people to voat so that they can educate themselves and decide what they want to believe. I mean I started questioning his intentions when he started making what seem like infomercials for goldmoney and bitcoin, but then again it's his channel and if he feels the need to share this info with his audience more power to him. With msm shoving narratives down our throats we must question every source and think for ourselves.

Yuke

You're not alone, I have my suspicions about him. For an investigative journalist not only is he covering the same 'initial findings' and then ranting away, as you say, he is also throwing in either late, or poorly founded claims, here and there. For example, in the video linked he says that Breitbart called John Podesta a Pedo. No, he didn't, he suggested he was covering up for pedo's http://i0.wp.com/www.2nd2no.com/wp-content/plugins/RSSPoster_PRO/cache/c6370_fJvIJoFBvFL67EDbe4g8xnKnRvWnLXahm6MR5nMWSRM.jpg?resize=745%2C530

Any investigative journalist worth his salt will not get facts like that wrong. He ruffled my feathers weeks ago when he 'broke' the news that David Brock was affiliated with Alefantis. All of us covering this thing found that out in the first few days/weeks, the timing of that 'revelation' smacked of someone that didn't really know the info involved in this thing at all.

speckledcat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nEdvDWcp2M&t=3s

he just came out as a shill for Zionists - his real agenda

euclidean

I don't know why this is being downvoted, it's a good example of his lack of professionalism/effort. He needs to step up his game, or someone else has to. This sub needs to be presented in video form to the masses who don't even know this place exists.

ALDO_NOVA

spot on - I admire the guy for putting himself out there - but his skill & knowledge is lacking

Im_with_her

You Tube has the right to squelch fake news, just like Twitter, Facebook, etc. All you tin foil hatters must scurry like roaches to whatever site will allow this nonsense. Guess what? Mr. Obama, our great and illustrious leader, is clamping down on fake news sites now. Maybe you can send carrier pigeons or smoke signals to each other because the internet will be cleaned up of ALL fake news. Wait and see. Pizzagate is fake news. Chelsea 2020!

markrod420

lol so you are either a full on troll. Or just so incredibly ignorant that its painful. Also as they keep busting pedophile rings in norway and britain and other places, finding links to the top political class in each place, will you continue to be such a stupid cunt? Or will you eventually acknowledge that there are some very fucked up people ruling over us?

Xook

And, in the first 100 days of Trump, 95% of Obama's doings will be reversed, scraped or rewritten to actually do something. Obama was a total failure. He and all the Clinton gang were aware of Pizzagate--were part of it--and will be found out by the public. These folks are following the path to truth. People like you are chasing a shill paycheck. You KNOW who will win this, yet you continue to bark like the neutered dog that howls at the moon with no real balls.

poly

Pizzagate isn't fake news

Pizzagate cost Hillary the election

You should have vetted your candidate better.

golly

How's the coffee at CTR?

NoBS

I watched David yesterday, and as is my wish I up voted the video because Mr Seaman is my go to "news" source. My up vote today was not registered. Can anyone who has experienced this please reply? This is weird, not only have I subscribed "multiple times", but the little "bell notification" was also unchecked, now for a third time! Thanks in advance.

rhy

Can confirm. I've been auto unsubscribed from him, reality calls, and really gracefull numerous times now.

Cbradio

Yep, and other issues there, fb, twit etc..

Azagthoth

I like Dick_Seaman quite a bit. Hard hitting journalism with no pulled punches. I hope they dont scrub him from the internet entirely as they are no doubt attempting. I hope he sticks around for a while. Hes very intuitive and charismatic and deserves a good career after his valiant efforts. Fuck youtube for the authoritative boot.

golly

inb4 @fact-checking-pg says David Seaman is just a Youtuber who's irrelevant and didn't contribute as much as he did. #lol

oldchangling

I'd happily support DS, but unfortunately the only effective ways to correct Youtube are lawsuit and boycott. What we really need is an "innocent until proven guilty" creator-friendly alternative with a commitment to a transparency. Complaints, defenses, and arbitration results should all be public. Contested videos should be left up but flagged until arbitration occurs, with links to the complainant's and creator's histories available to indicate how strong or weak their complaint is likely to be. Even just a "won/lost" counter would be enough. Why no wannabe YouTube competitor has taken this business model upon themselves is utterly beyond me. Free speech seems to be working for Twitter-competitor gab.ai.

Votescam

Might be a better plan to move on to Vimeo or other alternate video websites. Talk of moving a lot of material from YouTube to other sites before it is lost.

Cbradio

We need Public Trust fed violations, class action lawsuits, too...

antisocialist

YouTube needs more unbiased staff to deal with complaints. Useful idiot SJWs flagging people's accounts is at best harassment. YouTube is more concerned about per minute views than policing peoples likes or dislikes of a video until it becomes a legal liability for them. Case in point one of my clients had a video copywright striked because they used a copyrighted song in under an hour. I in turn put up the entire album that the song came from and spammed it. It stayed up for a good 2 months before the account got a copywright strike. YouTube isn't purposefully targeting anyone. It's just got a mess of a system to work around that penalizes average users over trivial shit. Or automatically gets you suspended because of a SJW reporting brigade triggering an automated response.

samhara

YouTube is privately owned. They are not openly government / public. Therefor they can delete whatever they want..

They attempt to maintain the reputation of "free speech" for public relations reasons, not because they have to.

I'm assuming no one can compete with them because it's a lot of capital involved, to start it up.. Many people post on Vimeo instead , and then just share the links; to avoid the YouTube censorship.

Of course you may then get less views. but honestly you can't trust the view counts on YouTube anyway. It's gamed.

One thing good about YouTube is that if you mirror enough, they have a hard time taking it down or expunging it.

antisocialist

YouTube doesn't have the resources to police anything the way people like you describe. It's reliant on 3rd party reports that 99% create an automated response.

samhara

Liar.

samhara

I don't believe this. I am a 9/11 researcher and there is a long history of YouTube and arbitrary censorship. They also do police, not only the counters, but also the upvotes and downvotes. We seen it many times including on videos to do with sociel engineering and cultural conditioning. There is certain info they do not want out and they have ways to bury it. And they will outright delete whole channels.. If something gets strong they will have a purge.. The purge will work through many avenues , not just the deletion of videos and the storm - trooper trolls.

antisocialist

No. Only 3rd party complaints, DMCA's, and people doing blatant shit like sending death threats get people banned. I've seen people delete their own channels and it turn into a tinfoil hat shit show as well. The biggest problem with the 9/11 truth youtubers(despite also being 100% wrong) is that they spent all their time and energy fighting each other. People posting loose change or Alex Jones shit with sock puppets were no different than the left wing SJWs like Steve Shives. It lead to death threats, witch hunts, paranoid rants, and people believing that their copywright strikes were a YouTube conspiracy to silence them. Same bullshit goes on today as everytime a channel gets shut down for blatant copywright abuse they start creating #savesoandso's channel petitions. Especially when it's fringe SJW or conspiracy vloggers. They have no respect for anyone's IP going so far as to rip entire videos on their backup channels then cry government conspiracy when google bans them.

samhara

That's just not true.

antisocialist

It's 100% true. The 9/11 truth bullshiters were the worst douches to get on youtube. I used to think modern SJWs were bad but they didn't try to send you death threats like the conspiratorial retrards who believed in 9/11 truth did. It's often why they got banned or straight up deleted their own channels once they failed at creating sock puppets to attack detractors or manipulating views with bots.

TRUTHWARRIOR

What does SJW stand for? 🤔 thanks.

bikergang_accountant

If you are going to beat youtube you have to offer freedom several degrees beyond youtube. We do need a change in legislation too. Youtube definitely benefits from double standards considering how much they make off of piracy. News, skits, how it's mades, music, vines. Yet despite having a different standard for themselves they are still legally careful, at least a little bit.

What would need to happen is someone to offer a lot more freedom and then by serendipity people get serious with congress asking for more powerful safe harbor laws. I'm really betting on better safe harbor laws. What we need to do is have the alt-right pressure Trump into giving us better laws here because the alt-right are the ones being censored. I think without us making it a defining feature of whether or not we are happy with his presidency things look to be going the other way even with him. He needs to understand this is important to us and that if he wants to punch the media back he needs to make the environment where youtube and twitter's competitors can thrive. I'm not sure it's no his radar. We have to push him. We have to tell him we want new laws that will give alternatives protection.

hunter3

is he also on vimeo or elsewhere?

ActionCompassion

he is on gab.ai

Phobos_Mothership

I'm subscribed to Mr. Seaman on about every venue that I can be.

Preschoolartist

Please YouTube George Webb "Where is Eric Braverman" day 61 and/or day 63 too before Webb gets treated like David Seaman or worse. Webb is starting to bring in child trafficking pieces of the bigger picture of CF. His reference to Eva Bartlett's work very important!!!

redberries

Yeah , reading between the lines of his message, seems like he's not allowed to talk about the specifics of Pizzagate, otherwise he'd get terminated. There's so much more that's been uncovered and is worthy of speaking about, though I admit it's difficult to discern what's disinfo and what's not.

euclidean

Why can't he preface his videos with a message saying how the forthcoming info is simply circumstantial and yet to be proven?

AgainstPedos

What's the situation with the well financed new rival to YouTube which won't have any political restrictions on posting pedo expose videos? YouTube heavily backed Hillary Clinton and Hollywood Liberals.

Ciscogeek

otherwise he'd get terminated.

Elaborate on this thought please.

SaneGoatiSwear

the user below commenting to you is a fake me.

that's a known anti-pizzagater called webofslime