damnittohell

I remember this like it was yesterday. She was some random crazy who tried to ram the gates at the white house.

ALDO_NOVA

I had always thought this killing was very strange, and knew she had a young child

wasn't there recently another woman went crazy, drove to DC and killed herself and kid? she was trying to contact Obama - I cant recall exactly

Jem777

I did some research into this incident and people involved. It looks as if this is very possible a CIA operation gone bad. Several witnesses state the child is Obama's but Ms. Carey had made statements about feeling stalked by Obama or her house being monitored electronically (whose isn't at this point even thou it is not constitutional) Agent Caris has some bogus front company in Samford, Ct. where Adam Lanza (alleged Newtown shooter) father shooter lived. The statement provided was "a hotbed CIA mind control operations" additionally this was linked to a scientific journal entry on neuroscience results from President Obama's Mind Control experiments in 2013. So anymore questions this insanity is still going on and there are some sick creeps walking around and even worse they are in power and smile at us and tell us we are the crazy ones!!!What a joke! If someone can help me link the article I would appreciate it. The journal it is listed in is actually named Torture:asian. So I guess Obama does like torture at least on American citizens, or maybe for youngsters in traing for the CIA.

noworldorder

whatdoesitmean.com is a REAL fake news, disinformation website (one of the first on the Internet) -- Please alter your post to reflect this. It's only going to make this sub look bad.

Sorcha Faal, the pen name used by the website, is well known by conspiracy culture veterans as bullshit.

Many times its content is re-published on other disinformation websites, or by people who are unaware of that it's disinfo. If you see an article elsewhere that always starts with "report circulating in the Kremlin today", there's a very strong chance it originated at whatdoesitmean.com. It's wildest claims are never sourced (because they were made up from thin air).

Go read more of the articles on whatdoesitmean.com and see for yourself.

yabbadoody

actually, Sorcha Faal / WhatDoesItmean broke the Seth Rich murder story with involvement of Obama, Kerry State Dept, etc.

I find it a bit odd, if only mildly "X Files", when they cite current events relative to the story. As if they actually DO have access to Russian intelligence / "SRA reports", as they claim. Interesting tho.

SpikyAube

Hmm from the footage of this incident, it does not look at all like a woman made a wrong turn and oops ended up in a restricted area to be gunned down by secret service - it looks like a car chase. The car is surrounded by agents pointing guns, with police cars behind her car, and she swerves the car around to escape and speeds off, only to turn around again and flee the other way as another cop car intercepts her. Something other than random woman makes a wrong turn was going on there for sure. There was a reason she was trying to escape. If you had genuinely made a wrong turn to find yourself surrounded by SS, you'd just explain yourself and co-operate, surely?

Cbradio

I remember this. I thought the same thing. She seems hells frantic!!

waxdino

Here is a link on the story from a less... I'll just say it- cuckoo source. I agree this is a good place to dig! There is nothing about a love child and such here- not to rule that out! But it ponders why what seemed to be a simple traffic mistake ended the way it did. It's all super fishy, and just sad.

Schade

Here's a video of the incident.. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYvbe8DFfs0

concernedaboutitall

http://articles.courant.com/2013-10-05/news/hc-carey-sunday-1006-20131004_1_law-enforcement-stamford-police

This article states Eric Francis is the father. It does not say he is CIA.

yabbadoody

CIA doesn't normally "cornfirm or deny" CIA involvement.

I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, nor this communication.

msgtw123

Here is info on custody battle for child:

http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Baby-in-D-C-police-shooting-in-custody-battle-4889473.php

Eric Francis sounds like a shady character, but not a CIA operative. Plus, if the baby's name is Erica Francis, it is quite a coincidence that the unrelated CIA operative would o be named Eric Francis. The whatdoesitmean article is a bit sketchy too. Will need more facts before following this path.

noworldorder

whatdoesitmean.com is a WELL-KNOWN disinformation website that's been around for over a decade. It's literally 'fake news'. I'm part of this community and don't want it made to look bad by people brand new to conspiracy research. The stories are never sourced to back up what the article is claiming because it was made up, whole cloth. Just go read some of the other articles there.

whatonearth

She was shot outside the Capitol, not the White House. She had tried to drive through a barricade at the White House and then the Secret Service chased her through downtown DC for several minutes before she ended up at the Capitol and was shot by Capitol Police (not the Secret Service). This ridiculous whatdoesitmean.com site can't even get those basic facts right, let alone all the other tinfoil hat nonsense about love children and CIA whatnot.

militant

What makes you so passionate about pizzagate?

whatonearth

Among other things, I didn't like the idea of people getting harassment and death threats based on supposed code words from 4chan weirdos, and I also didn't like the idea of people being threatened for expressing themselves through difficult and challenging artworks, like the paintings Biljana Djurdjevic made to express the harrowing experiences of being a young person having her life torn apart by the Balkan war.

So many people who post on v/pizzagate mix up being queer or trans or being an avant garde artist with being a child molester deserving of death, and they do so not by pointing to actual advocacy of pedophilia or finding actual examples of explicitly sexual artwork involving children (which are things I would certainly not be in favor of), but by making vague statements about things looking "weird" or indefinably "creepy", as though art is just cheerful decorations or something. There's a real undercurrent of heavy handed censorship there, when art that just looks "weird" is enough to get you accused of being part of a child sex trafficking ring.

Clinker

I wonder sometimes- do you paid shills actually think you are on the right side of this when it comes to raping small children? That we are all evil because Trump said something racist, and therefore you will prop up these supremely evil guys who traffic children and do awful things to them? Many of you people have to realize at some point that who you are working for is not the good guys. If you are into this shit then fuck you, but I'll bet most of you are actually not that political. I would suggest to all you shills who are earning a little bit of money while you think you are helping the great Democrat Cause.... They are using you to protect themselves from really awful stuff that you would never consider doing yourself.

fuckmyreddit

I have often wondered that myself. Are these shills just single mom's and broke college students who have no idea what they are doing? Are they typically brainwashed dumb Americans? Are they perverts? What kind of people would want to shut down inquiries into child abuse? I don't think most commenters say the abuse or trafficking is 100% known fact. I believe commenters just want someone impartial to get to the bottom of this. Why would anyone object to this?

SayWhatNOWAY

Seriously! Who the hell would even stay in that Evil Sick Comet Pizza once you see that shit painted on the walls? Normal people do not send or text in code words unless they have something to hide! "Playing dominos on cheese" WTF! "Pizza map" I mean come on!

Clinker

In other words you are here because you are either one of the elites trying to bury this story, or paid by them. I'm sure you would like to fill your house with paintings by Biljana Djurdjevic and sculptures of Jeff Dahmer's corpses, because you feel so passionate about the art. Maybe you'd like an underground viewing chamber for your more 'complicated' art. I'm wondering if you have accidently left your handkerchief with a pizza-related map on it at the vacation house? Remember, when you were wondering if you it was better to play dominoes on cheese rather than pasta? Maybe you were driving pasta around Washington DC, but the weather was too bad so you couldn't deliver it. So John Podesta had to babysit the pasta, while the intended recipient had to settle for three-month old pasta. Or maybe you run the hot dog stand in Hawaii, that these millionaire elites are so fond of. Could it be that you one of the people invited out to the farm where the entertainment was the three small children? You know the ones.
Bonnie will be Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in that pool for sure.

Orange_Circle

An "artist" paints a picture of children being sexually molested (bastinido), Tony Podesta collects that "art" and you get on this forum and call 4channers weirdos?

No Mary, y'all are the weird ones.

whatonearth

See, this is what I'm talking about. I explicitly said that I would not favor pictures of child molestation and you said I posted in favor of it. And I don't know what painting specifically you're referring to but "bastinado" doesn't mean sexual molestation or anything else sexual.

Orange_Circle

You say you don't favor the molestation "art" but your on this forum defending the painter, gays and trannys (your words) and calling 4channers "weird."

And I'm telling you right now that we aren't the weird ones. Y'all are.

whatonearth

Well that's kind of part of my point, I think it's valuable to have room for people who are weird and experimental as long as they aren't harming anyone (and yes of course I would include both child molestation and child porn as things that harm people). I have yet to see pizzagate present a single artwork that is both explicitly sexual and has children in it. The only examples anyone comes up with are ones where you have to believe a bunch of code words made up by some 4chan anon in order to "get" what the picture supposedly "really" depicts.

Also, I described people as queer or trans, I did not say gays or trannys.

bolus

Your post appears to be daring the community to find and post links to CP art. Tsk, tsk.

The idea that some of the artwork of children uncovered in implicitly sexual situations is enough to make one suspicious.

Cbradio

Your going to have to do a lot more research. I'm up voting all my allies for kids FIRST on here))

concernedaboutitall

There are some very disturbing screen grabs from Heavy Breathing videos.

Orange_Circle

I'm going to have to disagree with you. Paintings showing children in underwear with their buttocks showing red and their feet reddened, (Bastinado) with their hands tied behind their back IS showing children in an explicitly sexual situation.

Images from the house band at Comet Ping Pong with images of a young boy naked, tied to a table with blood on his buttocks is sexualizing children AND torture.

Alefantis posting pics of children (the baby with it's mouth open in a big "O") and captioning it Hotard is pedophilia-ish. His image of the toddler boy at the beach appearing to grab the buttocks of the man in the speedo and the comments WAS sexualizing a child.

You can deny it all you want to, but it wasn't "weirdos" on 4chan finding that filth that makes it weird. The shame of that belongs to the people who POSTED it.

ArthurEdens

Where is the child now since you know details about the case?

whatonearth

Last I heard she was living with her father, who owns a restaurant in Connecticut.

ArthurEdens

I see, thank you.

throwitawayn0w

not a pizza shoppe is it?

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

Pizza parlor. I guaran-fucking-tee it. Prove me wrong.

whatonearth

I think it was one of those "bar and grill" sorts of places but I could be remembering wrong.

Cbradio

Alamo theatre bar and grill??? Legally, a child is nowhere until CP's or oig of CP's does a legit welfare check and location check of that child and every infant in child in photos, that Mr pizza POSTED on his own choice on public web. Would you like your child up on public web like that or your kids viewing all that non FAM friendly stuff at pizza or on the web?

Things are rated g, pg, r, x, xx for a reason. Playboy can't be bought by minors. Any regular citizen do that stuff, CP's would be bombarding their homes, asap.

ArthurEdens

Can you rewrite that in English please? You're saying something interesting but you're all over the place.

Cbradio

Oh, I m Swahili..thx

ArthurEdens

Ahhh, gotcha. Hello sir.

Cbradio

Hi ma'am gotcha back

concernedaboutitall

Strange, the girl was named Erica Francis? And the CIA agent who became her surrogate is Eric Francis. Coincidence?

noworldorder

1) Eric Francis is her father. There is no evidence that he's CIA. http://articles.courant.com/2013-10-05/news/hc-carey-sunday-1006-20131004_1_law-enforcement-stamford-police

2) whatdoesitmean.com is a very old disinfo website that everyone who's been digging into conspiracy subjects for more than a few months knows is a disinfo website. It was one of the very first on the Internet.