you are very right and I stand corrected. The paps are in cahoots. Thanks so much for pointing that out. Doubley sickening.

I have always had the feeling Amanda Bynes was a victim. Brittney Spears as well. I know both have genuine mental health issues but I wonder if those issues did not come from medicating them to keep them silent.

I work in mental health, not in California where BS or NYC where AB got their conservatorships in place though, and can say from experience it is tough to get that granted. I have seen clients in much worse condition wait a year to get one granted to a family member and three years to get one for a lawyer or legal guardian. I know money makes these things go faster but it moved way to too fast in both of these cases. Could be a state thing or the fact that their issues were publicized that made it move faster.

When you think of children, particularly girls in hollywood, I have a hard time coming up with a child actor who ended up happy and healthy. Really I can only think of Hillary duff and Natalie Portman who seem to be going great. You have the Olsen girls, britney spears and her sister who got pregnant very young, lindsay lohan and her sister and Amanda bynes who crashed hard. Brittney Murphy also died under strange circumstances and she claimed she had info on something, don't remember what exactly but she had an older very unattractive husband who seems very controlling. If I recall correctly, he also died from the same mystery illness a while later. Interestingly, they lived in a house Britney spears and Justin Timberlake lived in.

The olsen girls had issues and seemd to get over the eating disorder problems which is great but the both have a strange thing for much older men. I mean I get liking older guys because you grew up fast and are business ladies but they are to the extreme.

Side note: I am on mobile and cannot link to things. I remember a great vanity fair article some years back about somebody Pearlma who set up all the late 90's American boybands. He was a creeper and the article was shocking. I then heard a guy, I forgot his name, who was on Howard Stern talking about this.man and how one guy from each band basically was used for sex to have them become famous. I forgot the man's name who was talking to Howard about it but I remember he had childhood cancer that came back in his late 20's/early 30's and he ended up dying from it. His name may have been Richie. I have no reason to doubt a word this man said.

I have often wondered if any of the girls on 7th heaven were victims of the father on the show. Again the name escapes me and I am writing this while in a boring meeting so I cannot look this up right now. Just putting this out there to add to it and edit it later when I am not being bored to death slowly by people who think they are overly important.

I hear that, KanyeMKUltra (lol at your username) I just haven't seen anything so BLATANT as this before on the front page of MSM. I don't recall pics of Hillary Amanda, Britney Miley etc cavorting around when they were 15 ... 15 is the kicker here. Even Miley was over 21 when she started up her hooker act. Again, the onus here is on Kaia being 15 and a mother who should know better. (That said, Ive never trusted Cindy, even though she's apparently americas supermodel sweetheart.)