So the rumors of satanic occult are just that and the mental hospital as well? But you know what? Sandy hook shooting was a complete fake and it is VERY EASILY PROVEN... maybe you should look into it.
So you're implying that Alefantis trafficked the Sandy Hook kids directly to Obama (see: visitee=Potus), IN THE WHITE HOUSE... right after the attack and after the faces of the alleged victims were plastered all over the place? Give me a break. This is Jesus Toast.
If you guys are interested in Sandy Hook, there's plenty of videos on youtube that show how they used crisis actors--the whole thing looks like a false flag
Holy Shit. I think
@Lockeye
might have cracked it. James Alefantis: crisis actor pimp. Digging for connections...
And by the by, George Soros funds Black Lives Matter debacles. Is he funding these psy ops too? Gun control narrative, culture of fear blah blah.
I was under the impression that Sandy Hook Elementary school had closed a few years before the false flag. In that case, all the kids were brought in just to do the shoot (pardon the pun) then taken back out. Where were these kids from? With what I know now I'd say it's possible all the kids were from a trafficking ring or something similar. After seeing some slight abuse on air of one of the 3rd graders, I'm leaning more towards the belief that none of these kids were in safe environments.
(The abuse is subtle, but here it is: "dad" has his arm around her near her neck too tight and she is visibly upset. "Mom" subtly taps "dad" and he just tightens his grip...what kind of parent does that?! The daughter looks pretty helpless. If my dad accidentally did that, I would have turned around and snapped at him and he would have apologized and let go. Ha)
Can you link to any info about the school being closed down prior to the event. I remember hearing that a lot at the time and just not pursuing the lead myself. Two other just bizarre facts about that day are that one of the dads was also filmed as a SWAT officer responding to the scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaHtxlSDgbk
The same YouTuber made a video about the fact that one of the kids pictures was also used in another child disaster across the planet, like in India or something (it was a white kid though) but I can't find it right now.
"Dad" The guy is an actor. Also, posing for FEMA Propaganda shots after 9/11. Get the free book about Sandy Hook that was banned by Amazon. Ask yourself : If a crock of shit, why the need to ban it? Also, how did Rodham Clinton dare to call the people who know the bizarre truth of that event "blackhearts?" They believe the children were not killed.. but they are the "blackhearts?" How does that make sense? Here is the free download. No one has an excuse to be ignorant. -
http://www.rense.com/general96/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook_final.pdf
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You can check it yourself, use the Internet Wayback Machine and see if there was any internet activity for the Sandy Hook school in the 5 years preceding the shooting (there wasn't). Or you can search "Sandy Hook Internet" there's a good article that has pictures inside the school, it was definitely being used as a storage building for the school district and was likely shut down for asbestos in 2008.
Links? Also Can you post in the new thread about this topic, "Alefantis allegedly connected to Sandy Hook child actors"...its under the 'Hot' tab, near the top of the list.
Not off the top of my head. Maybe someone can chime in (in fact others have already commented). There is just too much out there on Sandy Hook, and I'm the type that, once I understand and decide something is a farce, I usually move on to the next thing (we have been fooled on so many things, it would blow folks' minds - and I'm no kook). Orlando was so obvious I quit looking into it almost right away. Certainly there are real tragedies, The Luby's massacre, the McDonald's massacre, surely Columbine.
All mind control techniques as well. Subtle gestures, taps, etc. Yet he poses a threatening position to her...and she is visibly uncomfortable. The whole thing was a crock. I lost almost all my 'friends' telling people what a sham it was.
They didn't raze Columbine after that atrocity, yet they raze Sandy Hook without any rhyme or reason? With no warning?
I believe Columbine really happened, but I think those two kids may have been raised in a "pizzagate" type environment, which led to the killings. They may have been radicalized by an intelligence organization, IMO. I know it had been reported that Eric's 22 year old girlfriend, Brenda claimed Eric was in contact with an FBI agent. She said he would brag about it. Columbine is a cia town and those kids exhibited signs of MK ultra abuse. Interestingly, both Dylan and Eric worked at "Blackjack Pizza".
I think so. There are actually dozens of people from that town who won the state lottery. Some got all numbers right. Others missed 1 number and got like between $100,000 and $300,000. That alone should tell you this is a town of highly connected, inner circle people. I actually know someone who happened to be there at the time in medical school. She was told to be at the hospital on standby for the bodies. No bodies came. Ever.
Listen, my cousin's son was an EMS Tech and was first on the scene at Sandy Hook Elementary. What he saw were TOWN children, not actors. It affected his life in a large way. Seeing stuff like that is something you never forget. I agree the left "used" it as a gun-control issue. But it was no "staged" event. I know my cousin, I know his son.
Yes,he was one of the first on the scene. He had depression for over a year from what he saw. This wan an event, it was not made up. My cousin lives in Newtown. He knew many parents of the dead children.
These are silly and unproven assumptions. I have relatives in the town, and they know THEY WERE THERE, they went to FUNERALS. I'm off this silly thread. This kind of stuff makes us look stupid.
Can you post in the new thread about this topic, "Alefantis allegedly connected to Sandy Hook child actors"...its under the 'Hot' tab, near the top of the list.
These children were already part of the child-trafficking under care of host-parents that are brokered by James Alefantis. They were transported to Sandy Hook to play roles as Crisis Actors along with their 'Parents'. They also played roles when 'children from Sandy Hook' were invited to perform or sing or appear at public events. These children were exploited and provided by James Alefantis' franchise of child-trafficked children and their host parents. That is my theory at least.
Already started looking but stopped after realizing that identifying children from an event 4 years ago is too difficult for me to do, but other people might be able to do a better job than I can at it. More eyes the better.
Well the white house connection you bring up, which I had forgotten about, sure does make the whole thing look too cozy for comfort. And convenient. I'm freaked. What a joke Sandy Hook was, all about gun control. Lanza's mad-dog right wing armed to the teeth mom and all the rest of the garbage including, of course, our favorite, Robbie Parker. (The guy who forgot to put some onion in his eyes.)
Sandy Hook was amateur hour. The last 8 yrs has been amateur hour. That's why so many of us have even forgotten SH happened! No one will ever forget Columbine, but Sandy Hook? Supposedly the site of the murder of 20 6yr olds??? Blip on the radar. Reason why was bc they didn't get the reaction they wanted AND they were busted right away with too many people asking real questions.
Not sure about these particular children being trafficked (or whatever) but Sandy Hook is a hard thing for many to get their head around, you will suffer some cognitive dissonance, but don't be afraid to have an open mind, and question those things that others are questioning. I'm pretty reasonable and skeptical and I now believe it was a complete hoax. Though, as I say, I don't know about the ultimate 'fate' of the children. (Would you wait calmly at the fire station if your kid was lying riddled with bullets in a schoolroom, and then acquiesce in not identifying the body?) Everything stinks nowadays (and has for a while) ... why no autopsy on Scalia, etc., etc. My opinion would be that the children were not subsequently abused, but who knows.
Hey vs, Can you post in the new thread about this topic, "Alefantis allegedly connected to Sandy Hook child actors"...its under the 'Hot' tab, near the top of the list.
Good article. "Withholding reports for the concerns of the parents." Investigators hit a brick wall concerning everything when it comes to Sandy Hook. Can we at least see some security footage of this crazed kid entering the school? The shooting would have been a bloody, horrifying, traumatizing mess, instead it was tightly controlled, supervised, eerily calm, and sanitized, etc. etc.
Even if Sandy hook was a hoax, wouldn't the real students be alive? Wouldn't parents of dead children have received their child's body for burial? I'm not understanding the connection either?
Well, assuming that the school was indeed not a complete set-up (it is extremely suspicious) and that a true classroom was actually in 'session.' All that was shown by MSM was one particular group of kids calmly being ushered away. Again, extremely suspicious when you research it. There is (supposed) evidence that the particular 'murdered' children are older and accounted for, I haven't had time to research it.
I know it's difficult to grasp, but if this was a completely staged event (a psy-op using 'crisis actors') then there were no bodies, and no real, and grieving, parents. My wife won't hear of it, and I understand. But I've done my homework, and it's farcical. Child tragedies are particularly used in the MSM because any story involving a dead or harmed child is totally hands off and untouchable and must be believed, or you are a heartless psychopath. It works best on moms. Surprise. I'm sorry to tell you these things,
How can these things be? My best way to put it is, it's like when you watch a magic show. The reaction is unbelievable ... "wow how did they do that." But they 'did' it, right before your eyes.
There has always been something that has bothered me. If 911 was an inside job, which I believe it is. So, if one of the theories is true, where commercial airplanes did not really fly into the buildings, but instead missils or something, then what happened to the people on the planes? I've wondered for years if maybe these people have been taken for CIA testing or something? Oh and by the way, my husband won't listen to the Sandyhook thing either. I hate it because I have nobody to talk to about my conspiracy questions!
For crying out loud, your husband and my wife! Frustrating I know ... "oh please." Yeah I believe no planes, no people. I have no idea how they did that. But I've figured out a lot. I kind of think there was something else done, maybe somehow there were no people after all. What's funny (and not) is the whole "Let's Roll" story. The dirty tricksters are slick, gotta give the sheeple a good hero story. And one of them has to be 'gay' of course. My wife loves it. To really blow your mind google Dr. Judy Woods. I believe she has the truth, crazy as it sounds. That's why there was no rubble at the scene. Maybe a lot will be revealed with Trump.
I read her book long ago. She has the most comprehensive explanation for the baffling and impossible sequence of events of 9/11. It's so out there though, many people will automatically label you a kook if you bring it up. I figure 9/11 will never be known, not the whole truth.
Crazy stuff I know, but the only theory that answers so many questions. She's an outcast. Glad people are aware of so much nowadays. Well at least some, my wife watches Master Chef ha ha.
I know! So, where do you think the people went? I hope they aren't being CIA tested or undergoing alien/human reproduction. I know that sounds crazy but I wouldn't doubt it. I remember the "Let's roll" story! In those days, cell service couldn't even reach that high! I'll check out Dr Judy Woods.
To answer your question on the possible 9/11 airplane people, some have done research on the names and the "passengers" never existed. The flight list was completely fabricated. The flameouts "let's roll" guy was also fake. If you research him, his circumstances were also sketchy and there are lots more holes.
My husband is iffy about this stuff too. He listens, but hasn't absorbed much. I enjoy talking conspiracy theories (and believe most are more real than the "official narrative" will ever be). So, feel free to PM me if you want to talk to someone.
I've watched part of a documentary on this. I agree it's suspicious. But, according to the theory, is it believed that a different older group of children were murdered? Is that what you mean by them looking older? If so, why not just kill the real children that went there? Also, how could real parents of other students, teachers and staff all go along with it? Wouldn't the kids that were supposedly murdered be seen later by family and friends?
So, even tho I agree it's suspicious, how are all my questions I stated above? Can you explain more?
I mean that the original falsely murdered children are (evidently) still around, and older. Supposedly. But I've only touched on this myself. They simply (whoever did this) think they can allow them to pop up here and there and no one will notice. Like they use oftentimes the same crisis actors in different false flags (like Orlando). But the internet and amateur sleuths are uncovering too much. (And possibly some of the others, that 'survived' are still around.)
It would have been discovered, I believe, too easily, if real children were really murdered (even if there were no 'parents' involved). Plus too much trouble (though I wouldn't put anything past them). A bloody mess. On the contrary the crime scene is relatively calm and quite sanitized, no real signs of panic or trauma etc.) In some false flags people really are killed. To view what real trauma looks like watch the video below (not a false flag, and gripping to say the least).
"Real parents and teachers." There are none. It was a very controlled and staged set-up, like a movie. Everybody played a part. They are probably paid well and under non-disclosure, and probably threatened. There is in fact a crisis actor's guild. That's how some of the actors were busted. I know it sounds nuts but psychopaths rise to the top of society and government, and are controlled by other psychopaths. And they want to rob you blind and control you. They're sick.
No one is to be pronounced dead at a scene unless they are visibly beheaded. The opposite happened here. No one rushing in to save anybody. Sorry if I haven't addressed things better. It was a very slick deal.
That would be so horrible. Do you mean teachers and staff were not there that day? I've seen stuff on crisis actors. You would think they would act better. They seem robotic
It was a total scam, for a gun grab. Really tugged at our hearts did it not? It goes deep, the whole town is weird. Funny how no pics of Lanza on security. Funny how they bulldozed the school. And on and on. Yeah, the actors, they really look traumatized don't they? My wife would be doubled over on the floor if it was our kid. I'm sure you've seen crying Robbie Parker. You can google him. I bet the mods on here are gonna get mad at me for getting off pizzagate! smile "Staff and teachers" were there alright, script in hand. The coroner interview is a mess also.
I used to wonder how they got people to do these things and never let it get out. Now my theory is that they not only use MKUltra tactics but also those refugees they love to fight over accepting to use them to act it out after they plant some false leads about the fake victims. Same with other countries like France...they love refugees and sanctuary cities etc.
Maybe so, but money and bribes, and subsequently non-disclosure agreements (under severe penalty if broken) work very well also. Especially with those in the military. This was done for those military personnel who witnessed the botched and illicit autopsy of JFK at Bethesda. Heather Mills is under such an agreement now, and afraid for her life. But that's another story. (Man I'm all over the road here.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmD4qNHAOeQ
No, I don't think you're all over the road, the reason being that the same types of techniques are used all over the place, and in all kinds of ways.
They don't have a great imagination.
When you point them out, recycled and popping up it produces a pattern.
Hopefully a recognition of patterns might wake people up so we can band together enough to expose lies and demand the truth.
The patterns of lies and similar cover-ups are alarming.
(although some claim the Heather Mills interview was edited.)
Yes, your comments about a pattern are spot on. And social media is uncovering them (can't hide). I won't keep you, but what is your opinion concerning what Heather was speaking about?
Maybe I'll private message you, because I know a lot of people might think this conversation is muddying pizzagate, although my opinion is that it's connections toward cognitive thinking are related in the search for truth.
according to the quick look i did this morning, the gathering on 12/11/12 was a christmas party. brock was the only other person of interest i saw on the list, but there were several other groups in and out at the same time. it's worth your while, if you have a list of people you're cross-checking, to d/l the .csv from teh whitehouse site for that day, and spot check through the day.
do you have a list of sandy hook families who were affected?
It's under the assumption that the lack of blood, bodies, and emts at sandy hook that those children ended up in human trafficking.
If you browse youtube you can def see that there some pretty weird stuff going on with that shooting. Even the day it happened I remembered a helicopter was onto a guy or two in black running through the woods and it was just never heard of again. a lot of people had there houses paid for on christmas day a year or 2 before the shooting and the town seems have a lot of cia workers living there.
COMPLETE lack of blood, COMPLETE lack of bodies, COMPLETE lack of coroner's reporting, COMPLETE lack of any supporting video from trooper's dashcams, DHS "active shooter drill" scheduled for that area and that day, etc etc
This is the video I got the shot from but he's meeting the president
https://youtu.be/Dsj7Jry6EAwwas
hundreds of people very suspicious imagine a D's are indeed children and look at the times and his name is in capital in both of those entries
and i posted about the first large gathering (the one with nearly 500 people) yesterday. it was a non-publicized meeting in support of the DREAM act, which was written to make it easier to 'legalize' undocumented immigrant minorities. (full thread:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1520459
)
▼ Fateswebb
So the rumors of satanic occult are just that and the mental hospital as well? But you know what? Sandy hook shooting was a complete fake and it is VERY EASILY PROVEN... maybe you should look into it.
▼ Aysemari
Wow the resemblance is definitely uncanny
▼ NoRagrets
14 day old account.
Submitted two comments in total.
Not upvoted or downvoted on anything.
I don't believe you live anywhere near Newtown CT.
https://archive.fo/yPZD5
▼ bopper
Won't be long before they have little girls doing lap dances on youtube. What a sick world.
▼ voatcaesarpizza
So you're implying that Alefantis trafficked the Sandy Hook kids directly to Obama (see: visitee=Potus), IN THE WHITE HOUSE... right after the attack and after the faces of the alleged victims were plastered all over the place? Give me a break. This is Jesus Toast.
▼ red_pill_stefbot
If you guys are interested in Sandy Hook, there's plenty of videos on youtube that show how they used crisis actors--the whole thing looks like a false flag
▼ smokemirrors
This thread is genius. Sandy Hook 'actor' kids below. Any connection to Alefantis, Podesta et al? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wsMJ7VyFc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTqMoccVmY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMu0DfCwIPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olFTNsbNjc (FEMA Director's kid allegedly one of the 'dead' kids) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3nOQbxustw
▼ smokemirrors
Holy Shit. I think @Lockeye might have cracked it. James Alefantis: crisis actor pimp. Digging for connections... And by the by, George Soros funds Black Lives Matter debacles. Is he funding these psy ops too? Gun control narrative, culture of fear blah blah.
▼ justforthissubverse
Best post in this thread sir.
▼ we_kill_creativity
Do you have any links you can share with us?
▼ smokemirrors
https://www.intellihub.com/newtown-tax-assessors-database-whole-town-sandy-hook-bought-christmas-day-2009-says-investigator/
Enjoy.
▼ hunk_quark
Who is 'Lee' and 'Ostenmiller' he's meeting with?
▼ DefenderOfTruth
I was under the impression that Sandy Hook Elementary school had closed a few years before the false flag. In that case, all the kids were brought in just to do the shoot (pardon the pun) then taken back out. Where were these kids from? With what I know now I'd say it's possible all the kids were from a trafficking ring or something similar. After seeing some slight abuse on air of one of the 3rd graders, I'm leaning more towards the belief that none of these kids were in safe environments.
(The abuse is subtle, but here it is: "dad" has his arm around her near her neck too tight and she is visibly upset. "Mom" subtly taps "dad" and he just tightens his grip...what kind of parent does that?! The daughter looks pretty helpless. If my dad accidentally did that, I would have turned around and snapped at him and he would have apologized and let go. Ha)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyQx4gmR7w
▼ we_kill_creativity
Can you link to any info about the school being closed down prior to the event. I remember hearing that a lot at the time and just not pursuing the lead myself. Two other just bizarre facts about that day are that one of the dads was also filmed as a SWAT officer responding to the scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaHtxlSDgbk
The same YouTuber made a video about the fact that one of the kids pictures was also used in another child disaster across the planet, like in India or something (it was a white kid though) but I can't find it right now.
▼ Repo
Noah Pozner and it is Pakistan
▼ samhara
"Dad" The guy is an actor. Also, posing for FEMA Propaganda shots after 9/11. Get the free book about Sandy Hook that was banned by Amazon. Ask yourself : If a crock of shit, why the need to ban it? Also, how did Rodham Clinton dare to call the people who know the bizarre truth of that event "blackhearts?" They believe the children were not killed.. but they are the "blackhearts?" How does that make sense? Here is the free download. No one has an excuse to be ignorant. - http://www.rense.com/general96/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook_final.pdf -
▼ SpontaneousSpectator
You can check it yourself, use the Internet Wayback Machine and see if there was any internet activity for the Sandy Hook school in the 5 years preceding the shooting (there wasn't). Or you can search "Sandy Hook Internet" there's a good article that has pictures inside the school, it was definitely being used as a storage building for the school district and was likely shut down for asbestos in 2008.
▼ bopper
Yes I think the school was defunct, vacant, now I remember. And you may very well be correct about the kids. I'll check out the clip.
▼ smokemirrors
Links? Also Can you post in the new thread about this topic, "Alefantis allegedly connected to Sandy Hook child actors"...its under the 'Hot' tab, near the top of the list.
▼ bopper
Not off the top of my head. Maybe someone can chime in (in fact others have already commented). There is just too much out there on Sandy Hook, and I'm the type that, once I understand and decide something is a farce, I usually move on to the next thing (we have been fooled on so many things, it would blow folks' minds - and I'm no kook). Orlando was so obvious I quit looking into it almost right away. Certainly there are real tragedies, The Luby's massacre, the McDonald's massacre, surely Columbine.
▼ LolturdFerguson
All mind control techniques as well. Subtle gestures, taps, etc. Yet he poses a threatening position to her...and she is visibly uncomfortable. The whole thing was a crock. I lost almost all my 'friends' telling people what a sham it was.
They didn't raze Columbine after that atrocity, yet they raze Sandy Hook without any rhyme or reason? With no warning?
▼ davemcgowanwasright
I believe Columbine really happened, but I think those two kids may have been raised in a "pizzagate" type environment, which led to the killings. They may have been radicalized by an intelligence organization, IMO. I know it had been reported that Eric's 22 year old girlfriend, Brenda claimed Eric was in contact with an FBI agent. She said he would brag about it. Columbine is a cia town and those kids exhibited signs of MK ultra abuse. Interestingly, both Dylan and Eric worked at "Blackjack Pizza".
▼ LolturdFerguson
Wasn't Sandy Hook a CIA created town as well? I thought I remembered reading an article about it years ago.
▼ davemcgowanwasright
I think so. There are actually dozens of people from that town who won the state lottery. Some got all numbers right. Others missed 1 number and got like between $100,000 and $300,000. That alone should tell you this is a town of highly connected, inner circle people. I actually know someone who happened to be there at the time in medical school. She was told to be at the hospital on standby for the bodies. No bodies came. Ever.
▼ anonymousj
Listen, my cousin's son was an EMS Tech and was first on the scene at Sandy Hook Elementary. What he saw were TOWN children, not actors. It affected his life in a large way. Seeing stuff like that is something you never forget. I agree the left "used" it as a gun-control issue. But it was no "staged" event. I know my cousin, I know his son.
▼ hunk_quark
CTR Shill Alert!
▼ Thakiddds
Did he see any dead children there?
▼ anonymousj
Yes,he was one of the first on the scene. He had depression for over a year from what he saw. This wan an event, it was not made up. My cousin lives in Newtown. He knew many parents of the dead children.
▼ samhara
liar. Prove it. - http://www.reformation.org/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf -
▼ bopper
No dead kids were ever seen, none were taken out. No one went to rescue.
▼ 77084
None were buried. All incinerated.
▼ bopper
I don't think you're a shill, my wife has a hard time with it too. You mean cremated? I'm saying no bodies on the scene.
▼ anonymousj
These are silly and unproven assumptions. I have relatives in the town, and they know THEY WERE THERE, they went to FUNERALS. I'm off this silly thread. This kind of stuff makes us look stupid.
▼ ZalesMcMuffin
Crisis actors are crisis actors, and facts are facts. Your anonymous claims and appeals to emotion don't explain anything.
▼ Criticalthinker615
BOOM! You just corrected the record. .
+.55 sheckles deposited
▼ yabbadoody
so I'm seeing David Brock ("brains" behind the DHS planning), Alefantis (supplies the kids), Obama, etc...
This is their sick little pedo-fraud ring holding America hostage with "events" like Sandy Hook. Great catch.
▼ smokemirrors
Can you post in the new thread about this topic, "Alefantis allegedly connected to Sandy Hook child actors"...its under the 'Hot' tab, near the top of the list.
▼ Lockeye
This is how the children were delivered:
These children were already part of the child-trafficking under care of host-parents that are brokered by James Alefantis. They were transported to Sandy Hook to play roles as Crisis Actors along with their 'Parents'. They also played roles when 'children from Sandy Hook' were invited to perform or sing or appear at public events. These children were exploited and provided by James Alefantis' franchise of child-trafficked children and their host parents. That is my theory at least.
▼ smokemirrors
youre a fking genius. Smoking gun would be any crisis actor from Sandy Hook or similar pictured/associated with Alefantis, Brock etc. Incredible!
▼ Lockeye
Already started looking but stopped after realizing that identifying children from an event 4 years ago is too difficult for me to do, but other people might be able to do a better job than I can at it. More eyes the better.
▼ smokemirrors
"More eyes the better."
We're on it.
▼ bopper
Well the white house connection you bring up, which I had forgotten about, sure does make the whole thing look too cozy for comfort. And convenient. I'm freaked. What a joke Sandy Hook was, all about gun control. Lanza's mad-dog right wing armed to the teeth mom and all the rest of the garbage including, of course, our favorite, Robbie Parker. (The guy who forgot to put some onion in his eyes.)
▼ Freemasonsrus
Sandy Hook was amateur hour. The last 8 yrs has been amateur hour. That's why so many of us have even forgotten SH happened! No one will ever forget Columbine, but Sandy Hook? Supposedly the site of the murder of 20 6yr olds??? Blip on the radar. Reason why was bc they didn't get the reaction they wanted AND they were busted right away with too many people asking real questions.
▼ bopper
Exactly. Where's the movie, the documentary, etc. Getting clownish, look at Orlando, ridiculous, supposed to be wholesale slaughter there.
▼ 77084
I looked months ago on this and I did find visitors from Sandy Hook. Would have to redig. I remember one of them owned a medical device company
▼ bopper
You should pursue it. I think that's correct.
▼ bopper
Not sure about these particular children being trafficked (or whatever) but Sandy Hook is a hard thing for many to get their head around, you will suffer some cognitive dissonance, but don't be afraid to have an open mind, and question those things that others are questioning. I'm pretty reasonable and skeptical and I now believe it was a complete hoax. Though, as I say, I don't know about the ultimate 'fate' of the children. (Would you wait calmly at the fire station if your kid was lying riddled with bullets in a schoolroom, and then acquiesce in not identifying the body?) Everything stinks nowadays (and has for a while) ... why no autopsy on Scalia, etc., etc. My opinion would be that the children were not subsequently abused, but who knows.
▼ Votescam
Didn't they also make it illegal for anyone other than family/officials to see the autopsy reports or death certificates?
Yep -- think this is it -- http://www.niemanlab.org/2013/06/privacy-versus-transparency-connecticut-bans-access-to-many-homicide-records-post-newtown/
▼ smokemirrors
Hey vs, Can you post in the new thread about this topic, "Alefantis allegedly connected to Sandy Hook child actors"...its under the 'Hot' tab, near the top of the list.
▼ bopper
Good article. "Withholding reports for the concerns of the parents." Investigators hit a brick wall concerning everything when it comes to Sandy Hook. Can we at least see some security footage of this crazed kid entering the school? The shooting would have been a bloody, horrifying, traumatizing mess, instead it was tightly controlled, supervised, eerily calm, and sanitized, etc. etc.
▼ srayzie
Even if Sandy hook was a hoax, wouldn't the real students be alive? Wouldn't parents of dead children have received their child's body for burial? I'm not understanding the connection either?
▼ bopper
Well, assuming that the school was indeed not a complete set-up (it is extremely suspicious) and that a true classroom was actually in 'session.' All that was shown by MSM was one particular group of kids calmly being ushered away. Again, extremely suspicious when you research it. There is (supposed) evidence that the particular 'murdered' children are older and accounted for, I haven't had time to research it.
I know it's difficult to grasp, but if this was a completely staged event (a psy-op using 'crisis actors') then there were no bodies, and no real, and grieving, parents. My wife won't hear of it, and I understand. But I've done my homework, and it's farcical. Child tragedies are particularly used in the MSM because any story involving a dead or harmed child is totally hands off and untouchable and must be believed, or you are a heartless psychopath. It works best on moms. Surprise. I'm sorry to tell you these things,
How can these things be? My best way to put it is, it's like when you watch a magic show. The reaction is unbelievable ... "wow how did they do that." But they 'did' it, right before your eyes.
▼ srayzie
There has always been something that has bothered me. If 911 was an inside job, which I believe it is. So, if one of the theories is true, where commercial airplanes did not really fly into the buildings, but instead missils or something, then what happened to the people on the planes? I've wondered for years if maybe these people have been taken for CIA testing or something? Oh and by the way, my husband won't listen to the Sandyhook thing either. I hate it because I have nobody to talk to about my conspiracy questions!
▼ bopper
For crying out loud, your husband and my wife! Frustrating I know ... "oh please." Yeah I believe no planes, no people. I have no idea how they did that. But I've figured out a lot. I kind of think there was something else done, maybe somehow there were no people after all. What's funny (and not) is the whole "Let's Roll" story. The dirty tricksters are slick, gotta give the sheeple a good hero story. And one of them has to be 'gay' of course. My wife loves it. To really blow your mind google Dr. Judy Woods. I believe she has the truth, crazy as it sounds. That's why there was no rubble at the scene. Maybe a lot will be revealed with Trump.
▼ DustyRadio
I read her book long ago. She has the most comprehensive explanation for the baffling and impossible sequence of events of 9/11. It's so out there though, many people will automatically label you a kook if you bring it up. I figure 9/11 will never be known, not the whole truth.
▼ bopper
Crazy stuff I know, but the only theory that answers so many questions. She's an outcast. Glad people are aware of so much nowadays. Well at least some, my wife watches Master Chef ha ha.
▼ srayzie
I know! So, where do you think the people went? I hope they aren't being CIA tested or undergoing alien/human reproduction. I know that sounds crazy but I wouldn't doubt it. I remember the "Let's roll" story! In those days, cell service couldn't even reach that high! I'll check out Dr Judy Woods.
▼ DefenderOfTruth
To answer your question on the possible 9/11 airplane people, some have done research on the names and the "passengers" never existed. The flight list was completely fabricated. The flameouts "let's roll" guy was also fake. If you research him, his circumstances were also sketchy and there are lots more holes.
My husband is iffy about this stuff too. He listens, but hasn't absorbed much. I enjoy talking conspiracy theories (and believe most are more real than the "official narrative" will ever be). So, feel free to PM me if you want to talk to someone.
▼ bopper
Yes this is probably correct. Thanks for the comments (though I know they weren't directed to me). What is it with these husbands? smile
▼ DefenderOfTruth
Haha, I know! He's a grounded sort of guy, but he listens when I rattle on, so at least I have that. :)
▼ bopper
Half of something is better than all of nothing. I've got nothing! Good for you.
▼ srayzie
I've watched part of a documentary on this. I agree it's suspicious. But, according to the theory, is it believed that a different older group of children were murdered? Is that what you mean by them looking older? If so, why not just kill the real children that went there? Also, how could real parents of other students, teachers and staff all go along with it? Wouldn't the kids that were supposedly murdered be seen later by family and friends?
So, even tho I agree it's suspicious, how are all my questions I stated above? Can you explain more?
▼ bopper
I mean that the original falsely murdered children are (evidently) still around, and older. Supposedly. But I've only touched on this myself. They simply (whoever did this) think they can allow them to pop up here and there and no one will notice. Like they use oftentimes the same crisis actors in different false flags (like Orlando). But the internet and amateur sleuths are uncovering too much. (And possibly some of the others, that 'survived' are still around.)
It would have been discovered, I believe, too easily, if real children were really murdered (even if there were no 'parents' involved). Plus too much trouble (though I wouldn't put anything past them). A bloody mess. On the contrary the crime scene is relatively calm and quite sanitized, no real signs of panic or trauma etc.) In some false flags people really are killed. To view what real trauma looks like watch the video below (not a false flag, and gripping to say the least).
"Real parents and teachers." There are none. It was a very controlled and staged set-up, like a movie. Everybody played a part. They are probably paid well and under non-disclosure, and probably threatened. There is in fact a crisis actor's guild. That's how some of the actors were busted. I know it sounds nuts but psychopaths rise to the top of society and government, and are controlled by other psychopaths. And they want to rob you blind and control you. They're sick.
No one is to be pronounced dead at a scene unless they are visibly beheaded. The opposite happened here. No one rushing in to save anybody. Sorry if I haven't addressed things better. It was a very slick deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3gsQJ7afrE
▼ srayzie
That would be so horrible. Do you mean teachers and staff were not there that day? I've seen stuff on crisis actors. You would think they would act better. They seem robotic
▼ bopper
It was a total scam, for a gun grab. Really tugged at our hearts did it not? It goes deep, the whole town is weird. Funny how no pics of Lanza on security. Funny how they bulldozed the school. And on and on. Yeah, the actors, they really look traumatized don't they? My wife would be doubled over on the floor if it was our kid. I'm sure you've seen crying Robbie Parker. You can google him. I bet the mods on here are gonna get mad at me for getting off pizzagate! smile "Staff and teachers" were there alright, script in hand. The coroner interview is a mess also.
▼ Nana66
I used to wonder how they got people to do these things and never let it get out. Now my theory is that they not only use MKUltra tactics but also those refugees they love to fight over accepting to use them to act it out after they plant some false leads about the fake victims. Same with other countries like France...they love refugees and sanctuary cities etc.
▼ bopper
Maybe so, but money and bribes, and subsequently non-disclosure agreements (under severe penalty if broken) work very well also. Especially with those in the military. This was done for those military personnel who witnessed the botched and illicit autopsy of JFK at Bethesda. Heather Mills is under such an agreement now, and afraid for her life. But that's another story. (Man I'm all over the road here.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmD4qNHAOeQ
▼ cosmicmind
No, I don't think you're all over the road, the reason being that the same types of techniques are used all over the place, and in all kinds of ways.
They don't have a great imagination.
When you point them out, recycled and popping up it produces a pattern. Hopefully a recognition of patterns might wake people up so we can band together enough to expose lies and demand the truth.
The patterns of lies and similar cover-ups are alarming. (although some claim the Heather Mills interview was edited.)
▼ bopper
Yes, your comments about a pattern are spot on. And social media is uncovering them (can't hide). I won't keep you, but what is your opinion concerning what Heather was speaking about?
▼ cosmicmind
Maybe I'll private message you, because I know a lot of people might think this conversation is muddying pizzagate, although my opinion is that it's connections toward cognitive thinking are related in the search for truth.
▼ bolus
according to the quick look i did this morning, the gathering on 12/11/12 was a christmas party. brock was the only other person of interest i saw on the list, but there were several other groups in and out at the same time. it's worth your while, if you have a list of people you're cross-checking, to d/l the .csv from teh whitehouse site for that day, and spot check through the day.
do you have a list of sandy hook families who were affected?
▼ doubletake
3 days before sandy hook. hmmm ...
▼ ProudTruther
It's under the assumption that the lack of blood, bodies, and emts at sandy hook that those children ended up in human trafficking.
If you browse youtube you can def see that there some pretty weird stuff going on with that shooting. Even the day it happened I remembered a helicopter was onto a guy or two in black running through the woods and it was just never heard of again. a lot of people had there houses paid for on christmas day a year or 2 before the shooting and the town seems have a lot of cia workers living there.
▼ 77084
They did have EMT's, they just weren't allowed to enter
▼ anonymousj
Wrong.
▼ anonymousj
Read my post above.
▼ yabbadoody
COMPLETE lack of blood, COMPLETE lack of bodies, COMPLETE lack of coroner's reporting, COMPLETE lack of any supporting video from trooper's dashcams, DHS "active shooter drill" scheduled for that area and that day, etc etc
▼ anonymousj
This is utterly ridiculous. I can't argue with a conspiracy theorist. I know my cousin's son. He was there. Were you?
▼ Aysemari
This is the video I got the shot from but he's meeting the president https://youtu.be/Dsj7Jry6EAwwas hundreds of people very suspicious imagine a D's are indeed children and look at the times and his name is in capital in both of those entries
▼ Hawtmess69
Possible CM = CHERYL MILLS.
▼ bolus
and i posted about the first large gathering (the one with nearly 500 people) yesterday. it was a non-publicized meeting in support of the DREAM act, which was written to make it easier to 'legalize' undocumented immigrant minorities. (full thread: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1520459 )