no it wont. It is going to peter out and die shortly. shills have infiltrated the sub and we have one leading the charge in seaman.
this isnt about 1 person or one country. This is about a global initiative to remove the entire elite structure world wide and replace it with a fair and equitable one. That is the only way to save the kids.
If this is to survive we actually need to organize in groups like anon around the world etc and go from there. But we must remove those with agendas like seaman from the equation otherwise it wont do any good at all.
the reason seaman is doing what he is doing is to limit the damage. That is his goal, what we need is someone who isnt corrupt and willing to be a voice.
Im sorry that you have absolutely nothing meaningful in your life to put your time and energy towards. It's quite sad that you literally have the choice to do anything you want with your life - and constantly trolling and spamming this sub is literally the one and only thing you choose to do.
Another vid! Looks like David is loosing it a bit, Trump has no real power yet, as he complains here regardless. I think David is jumping the fuck out of the gun.
Yep, I kinda agree. Also, mods being stricter = concern trolls have excuse for community to alienate mods. So far in my opinion, mods have been doing a pretty decent job.
Something is wrong here and needs to be looked into.
This is an important articles that is blatantly pizzagate-related and the discussion explains in detail the connection to CF and CF donors, re being deleted.
We need a list of people who cover for PizzaGate and refuse to refute the growing amount of evidence so we can name and shame them out of any credibility they still have left.
A large percentage of research done on this matter is based on hunches, doesn't mean it is false. If I didn't type [likely] controlled opposition, I should have.
I hate how much concern trolling there is on on this sub. We're not going to get anything done by just pussyfooting around. Mods need to be stricter about this sort of thing. It could be easily exploited to stall our progress.
Seaman just flat out stated that Podesta is a Pedophile.
Where is the law suit? If I was Podesta and somebody accused me of these horrible crimes I would have a bonded process server on my way to his house... where is the process server?
Oh, wait, there won't be one because if this was an actual court case
Discovery
would allow all sorts of records to be unsealed. Podesta is a pedophile or he would have sued Seaman long ago.
Podesta is a public figure, so he'd have to prove that Seaman either knew his accusations were false or that he strongly suspected the accusations were false. There's no evidence that Seaman has any doubts, so there will be no lawsuit.
So your claim that "Podesta is a pedophile or he would have sued Seaman long ago" is based on your own ignorance of the law. But there are other reasons an innocent person might not sue. Suing only brings more attention to the false allegations.
He would have at least sent a cease and desist to Seaman to get him to back down. But we all know why he's not doing that. I actually think John Podesta is pretty chicken shit in general that's why he does all his bs behind the scenes.
Sure, if you want to win this case you probably wouldn't because of the high burden of proof, on the other hand, as a high profile Political operative who has been accused of one of the most heinous crimes known to man you might want to at least make it appear that you aren't a baby eating Satan worshiping child diddling maniac.
Nope, he won't even pretend to defend himself, the discovery process would be way too painful and Seaman knows this. Conclusion? You are yet another shill. Better luck next time.
Fuck off from Voat, whenever I see your name I will downVoat you to hell. Look at yourself in the mirror tomorrow and think of all of the thousands of young children being raped and murdered across the world. And yet you protect the scum.
Where is the lawsuit? Indeed. This is the HUGE question. It is UnAmerican not to sue whenever you possibly can. With allegations like this, David should have been skinned and made into masks and shoes by now. The fact that no lawsuits have been levelled -- Awesome.
I'm fairly certain they are the same person. I mean, when all you spend your life doing is trolling and spamming this sub - I'd assume they must be such a lonely, bitter person that in their delusional mind, they feel that making multiple accounts to post from will help them feel less pathetic somehow.
I think many people are just scared that they won't be believed, so they are trying to push too hard. We all pretty much know that there are rabbit holes--and some go very, very deep. We just need to give it the time it needs to integrate with the masses. Cool mind, calm heart, and the patience to lead people to the knowledge WILL win the battle.
David seaman talks in certainties which I think is very dangerous. He says John podesta
is
a pedophile.
He also says that John podesta talks about pizza over and over again. This is actually blatantly untrue.
Here is a search for pizza with the emails filtered by sender for John podesta.
if you go through them you will see almost all of them the word pizza is in the copied text (the text he's responding to). The other times he is using it in a proper name like comet pizza or pizza hut. And only
once
does John podesta say the word pizza and that is when he is responding to someone else talking about pizza.
Keep in mind the podesta emails are in the
thousands
and span
more than a decade
. I would question David seaman's investigatory skills. People on here are not as quick to jump to conclusions as he is.
Edit: This comment is getting a lot of push back and I'm not sure why.
I think that people should understand that John Podesta almost never [*once] uses the word pizza in the 10 years worth of emails that are in the leaks. He also
never
says 'hot dog(s)' in the emails. The accusations being made are
serious
. The evidence that is put forward as proof for the accusation deserve
a lot
more scrutiny. Saying that "John Podesta uses known pedophile code language" and "he's using the phrases pizza and hot dogs to describe something inedible" and "he uses the phrase pizza over and over again", these things are blatantly untrue.
U should make a separate post about this. If someone says Podesta uses the terms and someone searches Wikileaks they'll actually believe it's fake as that'd be the logical jump when you're told it's fake and the first piece of info you look into is fake.
Ok, I agree with you about always be skeptical of everything you read and hear, and everything deserves investigation. And you said yourself these things need to be investigated before we come to a conclusion. But then you end your comment with "these things are blatantly untrue." How can you explain this?
I was talking about in the context of the leaked emails. Saying that he uses the terms pizza and hot dogs over and over again in the context of the leaked emails is blatantly untrue.
My point wasn't to say that he
isn't
a pedophile, I don't think that could ever really be proven. My point was about saying things without evidence.
But you mention the "entertainment" email. Maybe you haven't really come across it but saying "the kids are the entertainment" or something like that is actually a common phrase. I was so sure of that I pulled these links from doing a word-for-word search for these search terms: "the kids will be the entertainment" and "the kids are the entertainment".
If you Ctrl-F "entertainment for each of those links you will find it used in almost the exact same way the podesta email uses it. The pizzagate interpretation still
could
be right but I think the fact that it really is a common phrase makes it very unlikely.
[reposting because it is now mysteriously missing]
David, if you're reading this, it's a good video. Thanks for putting yourself on the line. You're not alone. Screw the critics; they are probably trolls anyway. You're a target, get used to it. Folks like you put P-G on the map in the first place. Folks like you are what the 1st Amendment is all about. Thanks, again.
This, my friends is the new class of shill, using deflection to confuse you rather than
solid
an emotional argument. Seaman came out and said Podesta is a Pedo....because he is. Seaman is an actual Journalist and Journalism 101 covers Libel Law. He knows that you can't be sued for stating the truth. Period.
In the meantime, this fucking paid shill takes Seaman's bold statement and turns it into a negative, attempting to confuse you and demoralize you. DownVoat this cocksucker straight to the bottom of this thread... He Is The Enemy.
p.s.
@JUNOAK
how the fuck do you even look at yourself in the mirror in the morning knowing what you are doing, I just can not comprehend your mind and lack of self respect. I would rather work at McDonalds than do what you do.
Yup, the likelihood of being controlled opposition is quite high. Talking in certainties without proof only undermines the case. He can also be dismissed by casual observers because it could be intetpreted that it was a lack of objectivity (partisan reasons) that lost him his job, therefore making him a great choice for again, controlled opposition.
I like David and appreciate him but he does get carried away sometimes with stuff like that. Things like the Breitbart tweet which he keeps bringing up, he should know the context it was meant in at the time that's well known now with the ACORN thing.
▼ speckledcat
no it wont. It is going to peter out and die shortly. shills have infiltrated the sub and we have one leading the charge in seaman. this isnt about 1 person or one country. This is about a global initiative to remove the entire elite structure world wide and replace it with a fair and equitable one. That is the only way to save the kids.
If this is to survive we actually need to organize in groups like anon around the world etc and go from there. But we must remove those with agendas like seaman from the equation otherwise it wont do any good at all.
the reason seaman is doing what he is doing is to limit the damage. That is his goal, what we need is someone who isnt corrupt and willing to be a voice.
▼ selpai
It will only gain interest in the public mind, if you call it something else. Pizzagate sounds dumb, period.
▼ shaboyi999
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/The_Pedophocracy
The Pedophocracy by David McGowan 2001 http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html
▼ ArthurEdens
These people aren't going down without a fight. They're going to use every move they know. Be careful everyone.
▼ Lunari
Im sorry that you have absolutely nothing meaningful in your life to put your time and energy towards. It's quite sad that you literally have the choice to do anything you want with your life - and constantly trolling and spamming this sub is literally the one and only thing you choose to do.
▼ bopper
This OP is making the exact same comment in other places.
▼ Live_Free_Or_Die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsFWCj5KJKk
Another vid! Looks like David is loosing it a bit, Trump has no real power yet, as he complains here regardless. I think David is jumping the fuck out of the gun.
▼ draegspir
Yep, I kinda agree. Also, mods being stricter = concern trolls have excuse for community to alienate mods. So far in my opinion, mods have been doing a pretty decent job.
▼ pizzagate_is_fake
That is what I have been trying to tell these tin foil hatters.
▼ doolord
You've been a member for 6 minutes as of this post. Holy fucking shill
▼ Arrvee
Daily Kos, actually. I believe the term predates Reddit.
▼ naturehelps
Something is wrong here and needs to be looked into.
This is an important articles that is blatantly pizzagate-related and the discussion explains in detail the connection to CF and CF donors, re being deleted.
Is this section in Obamacare on "legal executions" (including beheadings) real, and if so, could the "other specified means" which are NOT specified, be pizzagate related?
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate/2014/11/to-attorney-generals-of-all-states-opposing-obamacare-it-includes-illegal-foreign-coding-for-beheadi.html
And this is obviously Pizzagate related.
The Pope, Poop, and Pizzagate: The First Amendment Is A Disgusting Religious Sin
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate/2016/12/the-pope-poop-and-pizzagate-the-first-amendment-is-a-disgusting-religious-sin.html
Who are the moderators here? Something is very wrong here. It needs to be checked out.
▼ FriesischShipping
only my grandma still uses facebook.
▼ kekistocrat
David Seaman is a Zionist sympathizer. He makes it obvious in his latest Israel-Obama video. He should not be taken seriously at this point.
▼ FriesischShipping
Getting wacked or going to court is way too risky. They have to vanish him Assange style.
▼ duerheltdum
Yeah, we don't want pizzagate to look stupid. Best to keep throwing around racial slurs to ensure intellectual respect.
▼ vacvape
Yah it's one of those words alright.
But you can still use it how you like.. things change
To be fair, yours IS a little different.
▼ v4Zz
We need a list of people who cover for PizzaGate and refuse to refute the growing amount of evidence so we can name and shame them out of any credibility they still have left.
▼ wokethefkup
They really aren't trying to hide much anymore which is good because something is making them come out the wood work.
▼ bdmthrfkr
This is the old model of troll, far inferior to the new model.
Keep your eyes out for both kinds.
▼ vacvape
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/niggardly
Just sayin. Carry on.
▼ postfascion
A large percentage of research done on this matter is based on hunches, doesn't mean it is false. If I didn't type [likely] controlled opposition, I should have.
▼ doolord
I hate how much concern trolling there is on on this sub. We're not going to get anything done by just pussyfooting around. Mods need to be stricter about this sort of thing. It could be easily exploited to stall our progress.
▼ LawofTruth
Anyone have the wikileaks link to the email he references at the start of the video. I searched on 26903 and it turned up a different one.
▼ FriesischShipping
only my grandma still watches tv.
▼ bdmthrfkr
Seaman just flat out stated that Podesta is a Pedophile.
Where is the law suit? If I was Podesta and somebody accused me of these horrible crimes I would have a bonded process server on my way to his house... where is the process server?
Oh, wait, there won't be one because if this was an actual court case Discovery would allow all sorts of records to be unsealed. Podesta is a pedophile or he would have sued Seaman long ago.
▼ speckledcat
seaman has an agenda
▼ Pizzainmyass
What is it
▼ mrjdouble
That's right. This WOULD BE a slam dunk, clear-cut case of Slander to his name, and podesta would win, (if it weren't true).
Nice to know our courts haven't got so corrupt that a clear pedo like the likes of podesta can hide.
▼ duerheltdum
Podesta is a public figure, so he'd have to prove that Seaman either knew his accusations were false or that he strongly suspected the accusations were false. There's no evidence that Seaman has any doubts, so there will be no lawsuit.
So your claim that "Podesta is a pedophile or he would have sued Seaman long ago" is based on your own ignorance of the law. But there are other reasons an innocent person might not sue. Suing only brings more attention to the false allegations.
▼ ArthurEdens
He would have at least sent a cease and desist to Seaman to get him to back down. But we all know why he's not doing that. I actually think John Podesta is pretty chicken shit in general that's why he does all his bs behind the scenes.
▼ bdmthrfkr
Oh, you mean because of this precedent? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan
Sure, if you want to win this case you probably wouldn't because of the high burden of proof, on the other hand, as a high profile Political operative who has been accused of one of the most heinous crimes known to man you might want to at least make it appear that you aren't a baby eating Satan worshiping child diddling maniac.
Nope, he won't even pretend to defend himself, the discovery process would be way too painful and Seaman knows this. Conclusion? You are yet another shill. Better luck next time.
▼ duerheltdum
You are a pedophiile.
▼ bdmthrfkr
Fuck off from Voat, whenever I see your name I will downVoat you to hell. Look at yourself in the mirror tomorrow and think of all of the thousands of young children being raped and murdered across the world. And yet you protect the scum.
▼ doubletake
Where is the lawsuit? Indeed. This is the HUGE question. It is UnAmerican not to sue whenever you possibly can. With allegations like this, David should have been skinned and made into masks and shoes by now. The fact that no lawsuits have been levelled -- Awesome.
▼ ALDO_NOVA
don't forget Soap
▼ zoot3d
I nominate /u/chelsea_in_2020 for shill of the year award. best tryhard around
▼ doolord
What about /u/im_with_her ? Might even be the same person.
▼ Lunari
I'm fairly certain they are the same person. I mean, when all you spend your life doing is trolling and spamming this sub - I'd assume they must be such a lonely, bitter person that in their delusional mind, they feel that making multiple accounts to post from will help them feel less pathetic somehow.
▼ Xook
I think many people are just scared that they won't be believed, so they are trying to push too hard. We all pretty much know that there are rabbit holes--and some go very, very deep. We just need to give it the time it needs to integrate with the masses. Cool mind, calm heart, and the patience to lead people to the knowledge WILL win the battle.
▼ JUNOAK
David seaman talks in certainties which I think is very dangerous. He says John podesta is a pedophile.
He also says that John podesta talks about pizza over and over again. This is actually blatantly untrue. Here is a search for pizza with the emails filtered by sender for John podesta. if you go through them you will see almost all of them the word pizza is in the copied text (the text he's responding to). The other times he is using it in a proper name like comet pizza or pizza hut. And only once does John podesta say the word pizza and that is when he is responding to someone else talking about pizza.
Keep in mind the podesta emails are in the thousands and span more than a decade . I would question David seaman's investigatory skills. People on here are not as quick to jump to conclusions as he is.
Edit: This comment is getting a lot of push back and I'm not sure why.
I think that people should understand that John Podesta almost never [*once] uses the word pizza in the 10 years worth of emails that are in the leaks. He also never says 'hot dog(s)' in the emails. The accusations being made are serious . The evidence that is put forward as proof for the accusation deserve a lot more scrutiny. Saying that "John Podesta uses known pedophile code language" and "he's using the phrases pizza and hot dogs to describe something inedible" and "he uses the phrase pizza over and over again", these things are blatantly untrue.
▼ Pizzainmyass
U should make a separate post about this. If someone says Podesta uses the terms and someone searches Wikileaks they'll actually believe it's fake as that'd be the logical jump when you're told it's fake and the first piece of info you look into is fake.
▼ JUNOAK
Yea, I'll be making an individual post soonish about this and some of the other misconceptions about the code words.
▼ draegspir
Ok, I agree with you about always be skeptical of everything you read and hear, and everything deserves investigation. And you said yourself these things need to be investigated before we come to a conclusion. But then you end your comment with "these things are blatantly untrue." How can you explain this?
▼ JUNOAK
I was talking about in the context of the leaked emails. Saying that he uses the terms pizza and hot dogs over and over again in the context of the leaked emails is blatantly untrue.
▼ FriesischShipping
John Podesta's response after being invited to a pool party specifically listing children as entertainment:
"we're in, thanks for the invite."
Conclusion: he's a fucking pedo, fuck off with your concern noise.
▼ JUNOAK
My point wasn't to say that he isn't a pedophile, I don't think that could ever really be proven. My point was about saying things without evidence.
But you mention the "entertainment" email. Maybe you haven't really come across it but saying "the kids are the entertainment" or something like that is actually a common phrase. I was so sure of that I pulled these links from doing a word-for-word search for these search terms: "the kids will be the entertainment" and "the kids are the entertainment".
http://kool4kids.com.au/broadwater-parklands-southport/
https://allevents.in/bondi/bondi-beach-fitness-and-healths-2nd-birthday-party/576528425712757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zca3KaboT0
http://momandmore.com/2012/04/the-all-new-show-at-medieval-times-review.html
http://sanfernandovalleysouth.macaronikid.com/article/600179/playsource
http://www.adashofsanity.com/2016/12/foodie-tour-beaches-negril-resort-spa/
https://sarcasmica.me/2014/11/13/holiday-touring/
http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1981813/Christmas%20Recital%20Pieces.html
If you Ctrl-F "entertainment for each of those links you will find it used in almost the exact same way the podesta email uses it. The pizzagate interpretation still could be right but I think the fact that it really is a common phrase makes it very unlikely.
▼ doubletake
[reposting because it is now mysteriously missing]
David, if you're reading this, it's a good video. Thanks for putting yourself on the line. You're not alone. Screw the critics; they are probably trolls anyway. You're a target, get used to it. Folks like you put P-G on the map in the first place. Folks like you are what the 1st Amendment is all about. Thanks, again.
▼ bdmthrfkr
Wow....Upgrades.
This, my friends is the new class of shill, using deflection to confuse you rather than
solidan emotional argument. Seaman came out and said Podesta is a Pedo....because he is. Seaman is an actual Journalist and Journalism 101 covers Libel Law. He knows that you can't be sued for stating the truth. Period.In the meantime, this fucking paid shill takes Seaman's bold statement and turns it into a negative, attempting to confuse you and demoralize you. DownVoat this cocksucker straight to the bottom of this thread... He Is The Enemy.
p.s. @JUNOAK how the fuck do you even look at yourself in the mirror in the morning knowing what you are doing, I just can not comprehend your mind and lack of self respect. I would rather work at McDonalds than do what you do.
edit: they never use reason or logic.
▼ terrordactyl
This needs to be downvoated.
▼ postfascion
Yup, the likelihood of being controlled opposition is quite high. Talking in certainties without proof only undermines the case. He can also be dismissed by casual observers because it could be intetpreted that it was a lack of objectivity (partisan reasons) that lost him his job, therefore making him a great choice for again, controlled opposition.
▼ dickface8
I like David and appreciate him but he does get carried away sometimes with stuff like that. Things like the Breitbart tweet which he keeps bringing up, he should know the context it was meant in at the time that's well known now with the ACORN thing.