neo50

Creepy! He could not keep his hands off that poor girl. If he's comfortable doing that in front of cameras, what does he get away with in private?

joeysaperv

IMO Biden is a relevant figure.

High level government official - serving both as a long running Senator and Vice President. This is consistent with the level of the pedocracy circles consistent with the pizzagate investigation.

The predatory nature - The casualness of his groping behavior implies it is a familiar aspect of his interactions with people and that he does it with little real thought. HOWEVER - his reversion to more normal boundaries is apparent with the slightest challenge. This seems to be common predatory behavior that gravitates toward the vulnerable.

The brazen nature of his groping as an entitlement to his position - Watching a few of these swearing in ceremonies suggests that there is a crowd of people in the galery waiting for their turn, so he is doing this openly in front of people watching him.

The Beau Biden side story is interesting. Not sure what to make of it just yet.

janedoe77

The thing is if these girls were just a few years older and considered women or young women, no one would give a fuck, despite the gesticulating bullshit outrage noted by people here. The same shit has been done to women for centuries and no one gives a shit, so excuse me while I don't believe any of you give a shit about little girls. If you did, you would fight porn and all of the horrific representations of females patriarchy forcefeeds us. Oh, no that's "speech." Snuff films then, says ACLU and libertards alike, are free speech. Honestly. I don't believe anyone here.

gopluckyourself

Consenting women sure. Children no. Also you lost all credibility in my mind the minute you said patriarchy. In future attempts to persuade people outside of tumblr I would stay away from that word.

sore_ass_losers

The 'horny' wording went all over the net, but I don't think it's that clear thats what he is saying.

bopper

Hey, I do this, just a tad, to little boys and girls (I have over 15 grandkids) but not like this and def. not to strangers' kids. I really do think this guy is whacked. Man who is in charge of this country? These are all bought and paid for sickos. (I'm a guy.)

Edit: I mean rub their heads, stroke their faces a bit, that's it. This creep ruins this kind of genuine physical expression of affection. Some of my best memories are of me as a kid lying in my grandmother's lap and her stroking my hair. I used to sleep with her in the same bed. Totally innocent stuff (never got that kind of affection from my mom so I coveted it).

gopluckyourself

I understand mussing up your grandkids hair and kissing them on the forehead that is a sweet and loving gesture. These aren't his kids and the amount of touching and the manner in which he is toucher her is inappropriate even if it isn't sexual. But this looks sexual to me and that crosses a whole nother set of lines that really make my damn blood boil. Also random thought the way he constantly seeks to touch looks a lot like people who are rolling. Probably complete conjecture and I may be reading into it too much but could the dude be high af at all of these things and also a tactile thinker lending him to want to touch the things he is more interested in much more often.

bopper

I assume 'rolling' is being high, never heard of it. That's a good point - when you're 'inebriated' you do tend to use less caution in those things that float your boat. Now I'm kind of freaked about any of my own behavior in the past, as I am a touchy-feely guy (whole family was,well some) but w/ never a hint of ill desire in my heart, God as my witness.

PrideOfOshtekk

His job is to target the small fry, so we are distracted from the deep fried pedophiles.

KingKongisCTR

But did he not also put in a good word to help the DuPont guy get off with zero jail time for raping his 3 year old daughter?

wokethefkup

That little girl at the end throws her arm against herself frustrated and moves towards her father as if Biden has upset her and she's doing what any girl who feels uncomfortable around a creep would do in that situation and that's gravitate towards her protector, her father. I sure as hell would do the same and you bet someone would end up knocked the fk out and it certainly wouldn't be my father and that's cus I'm 25! Seeing this shit enrages me.

PrideOfOshtekk

Her cuckold father should be neutered and castrated. Putting his miserable political power before his daughter.

hang_em_high

her "protector" was fucking useless...

wokethefkup

Yeah I swear can't trust anyone not even you're own fam when they're involved in politics.

JoJoVoat

yep sad huh

noworldorder

Are there any pedophilia experts/psychologists here who can examine Creeper Joe's behavior for ultimate validation of what we already suspect?

featheredmasks

You people must live sheltered lives if you think this is inappropriate. Biden could very well be a creeper, but this is not evidence of it. Head pats? Seriously? You think that's offensive or inappropriate? There are plenty of overly-touchy people who aren't pedophiles and this sort of witch hunt based on touchiness alone (NOT OF PRIVATE PARTS) is what ruins communities.

Heterosexual men in various African countries hold hands out of friendship, and here that would be viewed automatically as a homosexual act because we are a culture that is so perverted this is all we see.

Get real proof.

angry_mob

you're trippin.

Hawtmess69

So you think pinching and rubbing the nipples of what clearly appears to be a very young girl through her dress is "Normal ". ? Wtf is wrong with you ? Get your eyes checked.. Perhaps start this video at 1min.

http://liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=864439

featheredmasks

Honestly, thank you for a response that actually points out something that bothered you the most. Like I said, head rubbing means nothing and most of the touching in most of these videos is actually normal or accidental.

I watched the video and I certainly see where the girl is uncomfortable. However, this video is in extremely low quality and does not adequately show that he is intentionally going for her nipples let alone pinching.

Have you ever considered how small a child's chest is compared to a man's hands? Now if we had a HQ video of him staring at her chest and going for her nipples, sure, that could be something. He's looking at the adult, holding the child by the chest (which isn't a sexual part until they are developing breasts), and likely has no idea what he's doing with his hands. She moves because she feels uncomfortable. Most children feel uncomfortable around adults they don't know, or even ones they do know. There are running jokes about kids not wanting to be pinched/kissed/hugged by grandparents, etc.

The most these videos show is that we have an issue with paying attention to a child's consent to being (non-pervertedly) touched by adults.

sore_ass_losers

If you go to Youtube this video has a content warning and you have to log in! Just innocent fun, though.

sunshine702

I've seen those videos and I can promise you politicians and actors know darn well where to place their hands for photo ops!! The subtle but very real boob feels from Biden made Pizzagate and the Illuminati real to me.

Lag-wagon

Im not saying he is a pedo per say but he a creepy. He acts this way to everyone not just kids.

sore_ass_losers

Really? From what I've seen most of the pawing is of females.

Lag-wagon

He does this to guys too..

I have seen it but at last I couldn't find it in crunch time. So enjoy this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E

sore_ass_losers

I've seen a photo of Biden with his hand on the knee of some kind of adult male cop, who is obviously not liking it one bit. I don't think he does this to boys the same.

What's interesting when it comes to children, if you tend to paw female ones mostly, doesn't that make it a sexual thing? If it's not appropriate to caress a 6 year old boy a certain way is it really appropriate to caress a similar girl?

LawofTruth

what the actual fuck. The way he leans in so he can rub his parts on this girl.

azamber

I would never let someone touch my child that way. As a matter of fact, I have already stopped a few who tried. I do not understand why the parents have absolutely no desire to protect their children from this man. Every video I have seen, the mothers laugh, the fathers just stand there and do nothing. Even when the kids are obviously not having it. But then again, I wouldn't make it in politics that far for this very reason. Fuck these twisted pervs.

waxdino

"Can I have one just alone?"
"Oh! Ooooh! Haha!"
Sickos.

Laserchalk

I think he said "no dates or boys until you're 13 years old". It could have even been 18 instead of 13. That's why the mum says she likes that.

hunter3

why was the original post deleted?

sore_ass_losers

Accidentally, it says in the title. There's a link to the original submission. I commented on the original and posted what I thought were the most controversial posts from the original here.

hunter3

PERVE

i cant beleive hes still doing this. i hadnt seen this one before so i assume its new? biden acts like shes a little pussy cat that anyone can pet. i would not let him around my kids at all

billybigrigger

Testing the boundaries of acceptable behavior in public, pretty sick. Have been very confronted by recent realizations over what was awaiting a Hillary presidency. Quite possibly end of modern world averted. Would have been a civil war at least, would have coincided with South Korea movement, and possible political breakdown in Europe.

brbomglolwtfbbq

oh my fucking god. i almost put my fist through my screen. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

wouldn't dry-humping a 5 year old be considered sexual assault?

JoJoVoat

there are at least 3, maybe 4 videos of him doing this same sort of thing... my question is, do that parents not see this in the video after the fact???? I am floored and shocked by the amount of people care about power more than their own children. Im not saying these couple is like that but ....

brbomglolwtfbbq

I think the mom (or whoever that lady was) was looking right at him when he was rubbing his nasty schlong on that poor girls shoulder. She should also be sent to prison forever.

quantokitty

Scum!

sore_ass_losers

I'd seen some of his behavior before, so inappropriate. What's novel here, or I hadn't noticed, is his pressing his crotch into the little girl. Defenders will say, oh he just loves kids [except it's just female ones], he's so affectionate, but this is clear self-gratification.

throwitawayn0w

Reminds me of this shit. Creepy Sandy Hook Parents. At first it seems excusable but when you compare it to the change in behavior at 5:30, it seems very suspicious and resembles some sort of positive and negative reinforcement.

For all the images we've seen of Alefantis and children, is there any video footage of it? Anywhere were we can see some questionable body language?

throwitawayn0w

Aren't these "grooming" behaviors?

jonnythaiwongy9

Definitely, he enjoys pushing his luck and testing the boundaries.

sore_ass_losers

Quick update of what got deleted for those who don't bother to look at the original post link:

gopluckyourself questioned relevance:

"rule 1: ALL submissions should be directly related to Pizzagate. It is the responsibility of the poster to demonstrate this relevance. In most cases this will require a Discussion post where you provide a brief explanation of how your content relates to the investigation. Sometimes there will be content (like an article on Pizzagate) where a link post with an accurate, descriptive title will be enough to satisfy this requirement. This shit is creepy af tho... actually fuck it this stands to be posted. edit: still would have asked you to resubmit as a discussion tho cheers. "

banusaur came up with (got voated -2):

"Not sure I buy it.

Baby kissing has a long political history. Everyone knows that photos with a kid are a cheap way to gain political favor. That alone can easily explain why he's so excited.

I've seen the same enthusiasm in politicians on a local scale when it comes to kids. He may be guilty of using kids as a political tool, but beyond that he seems innocent. I'm no "body language expert" though.

**On another note: **

We should probably discuss whether the Biden stuff belongs in v/pizzagate at all. Reasons are as follows:

Biden was not referenced or CC'd in any of the coded emails
There is no evidence of Biden's interest in kids beyond these photo-op videos
body language alone is not evidence
the quantity of photo-op videos does not somehow make them more criminal

There's also a very real possibility that shills will take the theories they know are wrong and push them to destroy our credibility.

Be extra-vigilant about getting real, strong evidence behind your claims. Sharpen your scrutiny on claims you see out there. Remain objective.

That's how we win hearts and minds and save kids from horror."

Everyone else: just appalled. I'm glad it's back, showing such videos is a quick way to show people elites are strange.

gopluckyourself

Thanks for the summary man. I contemplated doing a top comment portion to this post but didn't cause I'm kindof lazy.
edit: I also submitted it as a discussion stating how to make it relevant to the propaganda/meme side of the house. If there is still fault with the post I can either a. edit it based on suggestions from other people or b. delete it based on a well founded argument.

sore_ass_losers

No problem. I'm so paranoid if something gets deleted I go check if something inflammatory got posted.

I hope Biden remains fair game for discussion because he's an obviously visible perv. Also don't forget the friendship bracelet with the pizza charm he gave to BO.

gopluckyourself

If you've got questions or criticism for us about why a post was deleted as well please ask over at /v/pizzagatemods or in modmail.
We want to be as transparent as possible in our moding and answering questions in those places is one of the steps we are taking towards that goal.

aleeum

This needs to be spread. Plenty of parents would recognize this as perverted behavior.

JoJoVoat

there are 3-4 videos of him doing this same perverted shit.

Kwijibo

The look on the girls face says it all.

fartyshorts

There's more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Z3zxsbJFw (long one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8o3WUKP8M (short one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8o3WUKP8M (compilation from the long one)

EDIT: I accidentally posted the same one twice there. Go here for more: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=creepy+biden

sore_ass_losers

Biden mauls female women and children in front of husbands and family in official, political settings. Could be an expression of power, shows attraction to young girls and that age of female is not a barrier for him.

aleeum

It's pretty fucking gross. He's playing misdirection with the attention of the parents. Dude is a predator.

fartyshorts

"Ashley — currently a social worker at a Delaware child welfare agency" - oh fuck.

JoJoVoat

makes me so sick I have a daughter and I dont care who you are..you're not touching my child. Period.

gopluckyourself

Basically. This shit is actually disgusting. Share it with people as an intro before you bust pizzagate all over their face. It's what I'm doing.

dookiehowzer

I found that showing ppl the biden creep compilations first is an excellent way to introduce the pizza gate narrative

JoJoVoat

good idea... before someone brought this (videos) to the forefront a few weeks ago, I was using government officials and taxpayer paid employees child pedo busts/convictions. One night I posted 124 different government employees from generals to cops and on and on... all busted for some horrible child pedo offenses. Yeah, that took a while. FB.

LolturdFerguson

I literally was told by a couple SJW's that this behavior "doesn't look weird in any way".

I just don't understand...

hang_em_high

how the fuck can anyone see this as appropriate? The guy was rubbing his dick against a little girl...

dookiehowzer

They are brainwashed, that blonde girls reaction says it all

LolturdFerguson

I have a meme somewhere showing all the kids reactions to Biden's advances. Every one of them were grossed out (as they should be).

You see the parents laughing uncomfortably and trying to tell themselves that he isn't a pedo. A serious internal conflict going on there.