There are many actors here trying to control narratives, trust no one. It's possible the seemingly honest person gone rogue was actually working as a third party actor in an attempt to get us to focus the investigation in a particular area, maybe Epstein and Dyncorp have more to reveal, maybe not. Keep digging and we will eventually get to the bottom.
This. Original post was deleted by a sleeper-shill mod, who has now been removed from the mod team. Explanation, here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1529040
Pedo rings in other countries prove child stealing for nefarious purposes is not just an issue in the US. Online extremely sadistic porn involving infants and young kids is traded internationally. Often actual children are traded as well. Or the elite participants in one ring travel to other locations for Luciferian rituals.
It's also very telling when psychiatrists in Australia connected with a top university are accused of the exact same thing as those in the US. The same experimental drugs and LSD were given to patients in multiple countries prior to sexual abuse.
Is it related to Pizzagate at all? The headline gives no impression that it is. If it is not connected to Pizzagate by something stronger than "1. pizza is food 2. chefs make food" then it is off topic and should be removed.
The chef's death is suspicious. One report says he drowned. Another that he went hiking alone which is not the norm with regular hikers. His body was found on the mountain and there were no signs of a serious fall, heart attack, or a sudden blood clot.
There are many unusual deaths of White House insiders who could have heard or even observed questionable behavior by elites. Perhaps there were concerns he would not remain silent. The victim was a White House chef for Bush and Clinton.
moderator gopluckyourself is deleting a lot of threads. Two of mine have been, one about CA legalizing child prostitution and another one about a gay couple involved in an international pedophile ring
The prostitution article was on the front page with almost 100 upvotes and a 100 comments. He deleted then reposted it and it only has 2 upvotes and 4 comments now. :/
The general idea is that pre-prepared food is not allowed in the white house. Everything must be prepared on site by the staff.
If 65k worth of "food" was flown in, no matter what, this chef would/should/could have known about it. But now he can't tell us if that really happened, or if it was code.
This chef, Walter Scheib left the WH in 2005 during the Bush Administration.
There's a claim 65K of food was flown in. This claim was not made by someone with first-hand knowledge. It's literally gossip.
Right before this email Obama did have a pizza party. Food was not from Chicago, but St. Louis. Chef brought, his dough, his oven to the WH and cooked like 20 pizzas. Zero taxpayer money involved. Chef did it on his own dime.
Ah - ok, i get what you mean. . It's unverified, and shame on me for taking it otherwise.
I guess this goes in the 'whatever' sub then.
Reading the tone of the stratfor chain, it's difficult to dismiss as pure hearsay...and without knowing what, if any, relationship one chef had with the next, we can't say that this guy knew anything.
It's a thread (or two) worth pulling (maybe?), but you're right in that is not concrete enough to stay here.
The Stratfor guys says "I think" or "I guess" or something like that when he makes his claim. To me that is not firsthand knowledge and I don't know how a guy in Austin would be in a position to know it. Frankly it sounds like something you see in a mass email that your grandmother forwards.
And when you google that claim of 65K worth of food, there is no story whatsoever that matches during the time frame. The only close is the pizza guy from St. Louis who brought his ingredients.
Someone please repost this too. I've reached my daily limit of submissions after having a bunch removed and whoever owns and runs this website VOAT could improve it, and would be nice to hear from on issues, or have a platform to interact with.
moderator gopluckyourself is deleting a lot of threads. Two of mine have been, one about CA legalizing child prostitution and another one about a gay couple involved in an international pedophile ring.
I am an imperfect person. I delete stuff that doesn't immediately seem relevant as a lot of the time I am doing morning/nighttime cleanup as I am generally up til 4am eastern. If you would like to refute deletions I've made that I haven't tried to make amends for by reposting with as many citations to the original post as possible please do. Any input you may have on this type of thing is greatly appreciated and will help me improve my ability to moderate this forum. Cheers
Just a random guy that got asked to moderate the forum. My goal is to keep loweffort/offtopic stuff off this forum. If you would like to see all that I've removed PLEASE go look there is a modlog. I want to be as transparent in my modship as possible.
Original post of OP was deleted by a sleeper-shill mod, who has now been removed from the mod team. Explanation, here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1529040
He deleted several relevant posts.
Your posts, on the other hand, were arguably rule 1 violations (i.e. not really a connection to pizzagate), although there have been threads on the same subjects that have been allowed. The point is that gopluckyourself wasn't trying to censor, just keeping the investigation grounded.
inb4 "how is legalizing child prostitution" and "an international pedo ring" not connected to pizzagate?: It's a stretch to say CA legalized it. They just chose to stop putting teenage/child prostitutes in jail. Pimps would still be prosecuted. And I don't recall seeing an evidence of a connection of the gay couple to an international pedo ring, let alone an elite pedo ring (correct me if I'm wrong).
▼ afterbernerthrowaway
All of these new shill posts popping up the past few days are made by new accounts with "pizza" and an underscore in their names
▼ Vic138
Maybe #pizzagate should be renamed to #pedogate to reflect the true nature of this investigation. And therefore expanding the content of the threads.
▼ salinaslayer
People do have a way of dying around Hillary
▼ srayzie
So was that mod faking being on our side and finally turned on us?
▼ FriesischShipping
There are many actors here trying to control narratives, trust no one. It's possible the seemingly honest person gone rogue was actually working as a third party actor in an attempt to get us to focus the investigation in a particular area, maybe Epstein and Dyncorp have more to reveal, maybe not. Keep digging and we will eventually get to the bottom.
▼ srayzie
Ok thank you
▼ Millennial_Falcon
This. Original post was deleted by a sleeper-shill mod, who has now been removed from the mod team. Explanation, here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1529040
▼ AgainstPedos
Pedo rings in other countries prove child stealing for nefarious purposes is not just an issue in the US. Online extremely sadistic porn involving infants and young kids is traded internationally. Often actual children are traded as well. Or the elite participants in one ring travel to other locations for Luciferian rituals.
It's also very telling when psychiatrists in Australia connected with a top university are accused of the exact same thing as those in the US. The same experimental drugs and LSD were given to patients in multiple countries prior to sexual abuse.
▼ flyingcuttlefish
I'm tired of this delete frenzy. They just deleted an ite on Epstein with 106 upvotes ...
▼ Millennial_Falcon
These posts were deleted by a sleeper-shill mod, who has now been removed from the mod team. Explanation, here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1529040
▼ postfascion
Fuck them. Why? Because it's all connected that's why. Pizzagate is the tip of the pizza.
▼ FriesischShipping
I prefer to call it the crust of the investigation, the madi McCann kidnap Podesta/suspect sketches were basically hitting the cheese.
▼ postfascion
Right.
▼ srayzie
Why was it deleted?
▼ Arrvee
Is it related to Pizzagate at all? The headline gives no impression that it is. If it is not connected to Pizzagate by something stronger than "1. pizza is food 2. chefs make food" then it is off topic and should be removed.
▼ AgainstPedos
The chef's death is suspicious. One report says he drowned. Another that he went hiking alone which is not the norm with regular hikers. His body was found on the mountain and there were no signs of a serious fall, heart attack, or a sudden blood clot.
There are many unusual deaths of White House insiders who could have heard or even observed questionable behavior by elites. Perhaps there were concerns he would not remain silent. The victim was a White House chef for Bush and Clinton.
▼ postfascion
And who was deleting?
▼ DooDooDoodle
moderator gopluckyourself is deleting a lot of threads. Two of mine have been, one about CA legalizing child prostitution and another one about a gay couple involved in an international pedophile ring
▼ postfascion
I think its important that we out these guys. The content of what they have deleted will be a sure sighn of their motives.
▼ FriesischShipping
Absolutely using dirty tricks to control the investigation in a particular area. Just keep digging.
▼ DooDooDoodle
The prostitution article was on the front page with almost 100 upvotes and a 100 comments. He deleted then reposted it and it only has 2 upvotes and 4 comments now. :/
▼ postfascion
Stay strong man. Ultimately they are king Canute.
▼ redditsuckz
THE CLINTON BODY COUNT
https://i.sli.mg/CfncIH.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php
http://archive.is/CsgXj
▼ flyingcuttlefish
The famous pizza and hot dogs flown in from Chicago to Obama e-mail is dated May 14, 2009.
http://www.wuc-news.com/2016/11/pizzagate-obama-spent-65k-flying-in.html
▼ AreWeSure
what's that do to with this?
▼ Azagthoth
its old so its icky? teenage logic lool
▼ AreWeSure
What?
What's the email have to do with the chef? The poster seems to imply a connection and one is not obvious to me.
▼ bolus
The general idea is that pre-prepared food is not allowed in the white house. Everything must be prepared on site by the staff.
If 65k worth of "food" was flown in, no matter what, this chef would/should/could have known about it. But now he can't tell us if that really happened, or if it was code.
▼ AreWeSure
This chef, Walter Scheib left the WH in 2005 during the Bush Administration.
There's a claim 65K of food was flown in. This claim was not made by someone with first-hand knowledge. It's literally gossip.
Right before this email Obama did have a pizza party. Food was not from Chicago, but St. Louis. Chef brought, his dough, his oven to the WH and cooked like 20 pizzas. Zero taxpayer money involved. Chef did it on his own dime.
▼ bolus
Ah - ok, i get what you mean. . It's unverified, and shame on me for taking it otherwise.
I guess this goes in the 'whatever' sub then.
Reading the tone of the stratfor chain, it's difficult to dismiss as pure hearsay...and without knowing what, if any, relationship one chef had with the next, we can't say that this guy knew anything.
It's a thread (or two) worth pulling (maybe?), but you're right in that is not concrete enough to stay here.
▼ AreWeSure
The Stratfor guys says "I think" or "I guess" or something like that when he makes his claim. To me that is not firsthand knowledge and I don't know how a guy in Austin would be in a position to know it. Frankly it sounds like something you see in a mass email that your grandmother forwards.
And when you google that claim of 65K worth of food, there is no story whatsoever that matches during the time frame. The only close is the pizza guy from St. Louis who brought his ingredients.
▼ Orangutan
Someone please repost this too. I've reached my daily limit of submissions after having a bunch removed and whoever owns and runs this website VOAT could improve it, and would be nice to hear from on issues, or have a platform to interact with.
Inside a Cult (2016) "a look into Australian Anne Hamilton-Byrne's religious group which stole children in the 1960s and 1970s.
▼ Womb_Raider
Please start keeping a record of which of your posts are deleted and make a post about it. It needs to be known.
▼ flyingcuttlefish
reposted to
https://voat.co/v/pizzagateuncensored/1529049
in case they delete you again ....
▼ DooDooDoodle
moderator gopluckyourself is deleting a lot of threads. Two of mine have been, one about CA legalizing child prostitution and another one about a gay couple involved in an international pedophile ring.
▼ gopluckyourself
I am an imperfect person. I delete stuff that doesn't immediately seem relevant as a lot of the time I am doing morning/nighttime cleanup as I am generally up til 4am eastern. If you would like to refute deletions I've made that I haven't tried to make amends for by reposting with as many citations to the original post as possible please do. Any input you may have on this type of thing is greatly appreciated and will help me improve my ability to moderate this forum. Cheers
▼ SleepingCaterpillar
I've noticed this too, same user @gopluckyourself . Who are you?!
▼ gopluckyourself
Just a random guy that got asked to moderate the forum. My goal is to keep loweffort/offtopic stuff off this forum. If you would like to see all that I've removed PLEASE go look there is a modlog. I want to be as transparent in my modship as possible.
▼ Millennial_Falcon
Original post of OP was deleted by a sleeper-shill mod, who has now been removed from the mod team. Explanation, here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1529040 He deleted several relevant posts.
Your posts, on the other hand, were arguably rule 1 violations (i.e. not really a connection to pizzagate), although there have been threads on the same subjects that have been allowed. The point is that gopluckyourself wasn't trying to censor, just keeping the investigation grounded.
inb4 "how is legalizing child prostitution" and "an international pedo ring" not connected to pizzagate?: It's a stretch to say CA legalized it. They just chose to stop putting teenage/child prostitutes in jail. Pimps would still be prosecuted. And I don't recall seeing an evidence of a connection of the gay couple to an international pedo ring, let alone an elite pedo ring (correct me if I'm wrong).
▼ Theupsidedown
When it comes down to it...why the fuck should a minor prostitute be jailed? They're victims.
▼ flyingcuttlefish
oh, I thought I was the only one getting everything deleted. Some mod is a lawn mower here.
▼ Orangutan
Thanks! Much appreciated. Have a good one.