Great comment - I disagree but its a good discussion. Where I disagree is this - yes it is semantics, but semantics can be important. WORDS are important, as viral memes ably demonstrate. And I see precisely the opposite - to gain more traction with the public, cloak the "SATANISM!" talk with dark arts and other phrases because the public is 1) braintrained to dismiss Satan worshipping cults as either false memory syndrome or the stuff of tv shows 2) it tends to marginalize the pizzagate investigation as something that fevered Christian zealots are launching along with the War On Christmas and other campaigns. Pizzagate is far too wide reaching to be pigeonholed like that.

Fight spiritual warfare Christians, I certainly support you in that. I do it in my own way as well. But understand that in order to really fight well, you need to camoflage yourselves a bit and not bring pizzagate into the culture wars arena which will cause it to polarize rather than broaden in support. So all I am saying is educate yourselves, there are real differences in non-Christian cults that whether you care or not, if you want to speak to the public you should be able to converse ably. So use dark arts, use sorcery, use more general terms that describe something definitely harmful and negative, just not centered around your particular embodiement of evil the Devil. This is a PR battle as much as it is an information war - win the PR battle, win the war.

Clickbait. That blog is a fucking rationalization for her crap. Archive shit like this next time. No one cares to read excuses for what she does. Also I don't have FB so can't read anything from there, archive it, don't assume everyone is a member.

It's a good article. A lot of what is said in it is right on. Christian fundamentalists too often dismiss anything not directly out of the bible as "the devil's work". I think the term "satanist" is over used with pizzagate and on this forum specifically. What would be more accurate would be to refer to what she does as "black magic", "dark arts", perhaps even "sorcery". But not SATANISM, because you specifically have to buy into the Judeo-Christian idea of a character called Satan in order to practice Satanism, and this is easy not to do, especially if you aren't Christian.

If you read the article CAREFULLY, what the author actually gets around to saying in this article is (paraphrasing) "Abramovic is not a Satanist...Crowley was not a Satanist." So Abramovic and Crowley - self described "Beast" - are of the same ilk - they both come from a position of being "above" your average devil worshipper, so to speak. Abramovic could very well be teaching her version of Crowleyism, which would be black magic indeed. Her version of "healing" may very well incorporate Crowley's "do as thou wilt be the whole of the law" which then takes you into areas of harming others to gain energy, bodily goods, sex, whatever it takes for your "healing". And that's when the line is crossed legally, ethically and morally which is what concerns the pizzagate investigation. If we somehow "prove" they are devil worshippers, nothing happens at all. If we prove that illegal activities occured, they can be arrested and punished with incarceration. Big difference.

I'm very glad this article was posted - good discussion is needed here. I vehemently disagree with the commentors on this thread who want to airily dismiss the distinctions made by the admittedly condescending Italian author. I do agree that it is an attempt to intellectualize what Abramovic does into a realm where it seems like a sort of harmless hobby/art. It is dismissive, and it is hanging that dismissal on a close reading of the vast majority of accusations coming from people who are unaware of and refuse to concern themselves with real distinctions between some different cults.

Christians, if you really want to fight Lucifer and Satan then continue to remain ignorant of this kind of material at your peril - on the contrary, you need to understand these distinctions inside out and speak about them with authority. Do do less than that only hurts the pizzagate cause.

It still has a lot of info on Abramovič Serbian background and little known connections

the article is from Dec 13 - obviously made to downplay her involvement

I know a lot about spiritualism, and I believe myself to be a truly spiritual person. This article is so incredibly vague and weak in many points (no wonder!), and only people with no understanding of satan and spiritualism may tend to believe it. In short: bullshit. Marina is a satanist.