bopper

Yes I agree w/ everything you stated. Big money and big cover-up. Sad.

Crensch

(1) ALL submissions should be directly related to Pizzagate. (Click Here to Read the Pizzagate Definition) It is the responsibility of the poster to demonstrate this relevance. In most cases this will require a Discussion post where you provide a brief explanation of how your content relates to the investigation. Sometimes there will be content (like an article on Pizzagate) where a link post with an accurate, descriptive title will be enough to satisfy this requirement.

Not directly related. Link them, or post at /v/pizzagatewhatever .

cosmicmind

You're kidding me! The opening discussion is related to the title, which is pizzagate. It is very clear and there's no way I can dumb it down and connect the dots any more than this.

Crensch

Not at all. No connection to child trafficking/molseting/fucking in the first three paragraphs, OR the title.

(1) ALL submissions should be directly related to Pizzagate. (Click Here to Read the Pizzagate Definition) It is the responsibility of the poster to demonstrate this relevance. In most cases this will require a Discussion post where you provide a brief explanation of how your content relates to the investigation. Sometimes there will be content (like an article on Pizzagate) where a link post with an accurate, descriptive title will be enough to satisfy this requirement.

cosmicmind

The child holding camp is pizzagate!
The article questioned if they were using it as a holding camp for the purpose of TRAFFICKING! Obviously not a school daycare, since this is on a pizzagate forum I'm assuming y'all know we're talking about PG. If the proximity for the camp(s) to military bases are used for easier cover-up. I wrote that. How would you think that's not pizzagate?

Crensch

More than that, though, you're not only wasting one mod's time, but all of them that take the time to review your post, and all the users' time trawling through things just to find out why your post is relevant.

It is the responsibility of the poster to demonstrate this relevance.

Not hide it in a post with irrelevant titles and paragraphs before and after.

Crensch

I don’t know where this specific Texas fema camp is located, but I do know that the amount of military bases in Texas would make easy government trafficking cover-up.

4th paragraph. I had to read 3 paragraphs to get there, and then it's only "would make easy... ... coverup".

Mods dont' have time to sift through every wall of text to find Waldo. Put the takeaway in the title, and again at the top of the post. We get shit-tier troll posts like this all the time, if yours isn't a troll post, make the connection where it is easily seen .

Had you made this line top, or even copied it, or made it the damn title it would be fine. Stop making more work for others because you're too lazy to highlight the takeaway.

Discussion post where you provide a brief explanation of how your content relates to the investigation.

Brief. As in, not an entire post to find where you think it would make a good coverup.

Z11Mama

The problem in the foster care system in Texas is enormous. That state is one of the worst when it comes to child safety.

OrwellKnew

Coast to Coast AM was a damn fine show when it was first created in 1984 by broadcast legend Art Bell . He was the original OG Alt Media Truther.

The current anchor George Norry is a corporate puppet and shill extraordinaire.

Sadly, when Bell relinquished control of his program to corporate interests, Premier and eventually Clear Channel, Coast to Coast AM was never the same product. It went totally downhill and became reflective of “the corporate message”.

It regained a brief resurgence from 2012 to 2014 with the addition of John B. Wells . But as it turns out, Wells was fired for being too truthful for corporate tastes. So he struck out on his own and now commands a huge subscription audience with the excellent nightly podcast show Caravan to Midnight . He brings on guests that the MSM won't touch. I have been a paid sub for 2 years and it's worth every penny. 5 shows per week usually 2-3 hours per show. $5 a month

John B Wells is, imo, currently the leading alt media light of the Truth movement. Check out his heavy hitter guest list...James O'Keefe, David Icke, Trevor Loudon, Stuart Rhodes, Jerome Corsi, Adam Kokesh...just to name a few

BoraxTheFungarian

There are like, 25 shadowbanned comments?! wtf?!

cosmicmind

Their rule guidelines are ridiculous. A 3rd grader can connect the title and story contents to pizzagate, and all other discussion which can broaden information and education, but these mods are anal and want to clearly kill the forum and make pizzagate go away. That's the only reason for their juvenile and nonsense deletions.

Sharipie

You may very well be onto something with this. Very interesting. Also recall that the ransom note included the exact amount of the bonus that John Ramsey recently received. Who would know that amount but his employer? Perhaps that was how they signaled to Ramsey and others that they were behind the murder of Jonbenet. not sure if it's useful info or not but, I heard recently on radio that military subcontractors are a way to launder pay-to-play money from foreign countries to an American candidate. I don't really understand how it works but am thinking on it.

bopper

I knew somewhat of the first part of your paragraph. I've done some copywriting for Halliburton, and was nearly hired at LMartin near NASA years ago. I'm in TX. I still believe Ramsey killed her himself, with others. But who has time to research everything? Thanks for the info, sounds like you've really checked into it.

NotOfIt

I posted this and was told it was not pg related.

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-releases-220-illegal-alien-kids-day-border-crisis-escalates

There are underaged,unaccompanied minor refugees in detention camps from south and Central America in tx being released DAILY.

cosmicmind

Who was the mod saying it was not PG related? I'd copy that ban info on a resubmission.
We've gotta have some accountability here.

VieBleu

um, name rhymes with Grinch. or bitch in a stretch.

cosmicmind

They deleted the holding camp in Texas article claiming violation of rule 1. That's complete b.s., because the content reflected and broadened the title discussion about pizzagate. People aren't so stupid as to need dot, by dot connection when the connection is apparent to even a 3rd grader. I think this forum is very compromised, or the mods aren't so bright, or both, and this heavy handed deletion is actually going to cause people to leave, therefore the pizzagate interest and discussion will die down. No doubt it's their goal, because this heavy handed deletion b.s. doesn't make any sense at all.

VieBleu

My feeling is this - yes this is a compromised place, but any place will be no matter where it is. Here it is the devil we know, so to speak. I still think very usefull information cycles through here and keeping the discussion going only helps the pg cause overall. So this is what I would say if you asked me

  1. post in pizzagatewhatever and at least your info will be on the record here and this place is backed up, archived and mirrored, nothing gets deleted there and we should be using it more

2 Go ahead and take a litle bit of extra time, and link it to pizzagate. I would link your post this way. Child trafficking is a growing phenomenon (link to some facts), PIzzagate is an investigation of child trafficking (don't have to but it would be nice to have some link or other here), and a known phenomenon like the White House flushing the US with illegal children must be looked at to explore possible sources of pizzagate children.

It's extra work, but in the end it is beneficial to the investigation to always link it back and make it a bigger picture anyway. Some of what I said isn't rock solid, but it should be enough to pass a mod here.

Also keep in mind that there are some benefits to being rigorous with posts, because there was a lot of stupid stuff being put up crushing the better stuff a bit, so a little bit of culling works. I have noticed there is a real decline in racist and vigilante style stuff - almost gone really, so at least that seems to be working.

Finally, even deleted posts are kept in the deleted file, which I peruse every once in awhile just to see what the mods don't want us to see!

I hope that gives you some hope or at least something to consider. It's not all bad here, some of the mods are responsive and there's a hella lot of info that has been compiled now that will never go away. Overall it's the best we've got so lets use it like snakes and beat them at their own game. Eventually, the slave can own the master you know.

ArthurEdens

I think the son was mk ultra'd and groomed and he killed her by mistake while abusing her. The dad was an abuser too and helped him cover it up.

salinaslayer

watch the Kay Griggs interview, she's a rabid antisemite but other than that, the story checks out

ArthurEdens

Haha "but other than that"

KansasJakeBG

Thank you for your story. My impression of military advancement (at least in the south) was that you had to show subtly or overtly that you are Baptist or, at least, religious. Which is 100% illegal... Not as illegal as child trafficking though...

cosmicmind

That's interesting, well, it was the south, Ft. Hood, and the couple in question were extremely religious, (not Baptist) and my visit was centered around a religious visit. (I've since left church activity altogether, but at that time I was involved in community church service projects for the transient members in the military - as a community liaison making them feel welcome in the church community until they moved out.)
Maybe that's why they couldn't agree to whatever it was she was alluding to, and maybe that's why she brought it up on my church-service related visit. (I'm guessing, because that was a topic of discussion that I actually didn't even think about until you mentioned religion.) She blurted the disjointed information out (which wasn't really any type of information that made sense at that time at all) and was sweating and red faced, almost constipated looking, saying that they just couldn't do ''this'' (whatever this was) ... very stressed even talking about whatever it was. I thought she was going to have a melt-down and actually tell me this secret, but I didn't pressure her, because I know that military secrets are a big deal and I didn't want them, or myself, to get into trouble for leaking this serious secret.
This is so interesting, because I haven't thought about this event in years. At the time it was so bizarre, I couldn't imagine what major secret was required of this magnitude that would cause him to be rejected from increased positions, but also make her sweat bullets enough to admit that they were thinking of leaving the military after a life of service all because he wouldn't, or couldn't, do whatever it was he was supposed to do to move up in rank.

KansasJakeBG

From your description it seems like someone who was upset over the worst possible thing. Normally, I would think "refusing to kill someone" because that would be the worst possible thing (it's a gang acceptance activity). But now that I know about pizzagate, I can say that's the worst possible thing and it would warrant that panic. Poor people.

21yearsofdigging

In Canada and the U.S military bases are used for Monarch programming. In other words the ritual abuse of children and creating assassins, prostitutes, drug runners and whatever else. http://conspiracy.wikia.com/wiki/Monarch_Mind_Control

cosmicmind

Oh, of course. I've read and heard rumor of this in the states, specifically Nevada is the well known story, but also rumors of work done in Dulce New Mexico. The MSM always downplayed both theories of underground bases. I've heard similar stories about an underground base up around Peace River, Canada, and who really knows. These people lie so much that they could easily have lied about no experimental activity on children. I do not believe that Governor Ventura would lie about seeing children playground slides, etc in the fema camp, because he's a straight shooter. He genuinely didn't know what they were there for, and now it makes sense what they were there for.
Also, underground tunnels could easily lead from a nearby base to a fema camp, with military flights of the likes of Epsteins (Dynacorp) taking off at any time of day or night without anyone blinking an eye.

It also explains why they needed fema camps that were apparently empty.

It would make sense that fema camps are in close proximity to military camps, and it wouldn't make any sense if they weren't. But it also wouldn't have made sense that kids would be in military bases before I learned how complicit the military has been in cover-ups. Now the puzzle pieces make way more sense.

Sharipie

That's an interesting theory. Anything to back it up?

Peackng74

I used to work in Bishop Texas and knew several children from Coastal Bend youth city. The girl was around 16 and was living there. She was pregnant with her 3rd child. She had her first child at age 11 and was pregnant by an older man. I think said said he worked there. She said they were going to get married. There were rumors of abuse and the kids did attend the local high school. But that's all I remember. It's been shut down from what I heard.

salinaslayer

House of horrors apparently

http://www.thelostchild.org/id18.html

bopper

Yeah, he's big-time guilty.

BoondockPirate

No, I meant my theory is that it was a gov't sanctioned hit.

bopper

The autopsy photos can be googled. That's not the way a hit would go down. She was sexually abused and worse. Sorry to bother you again.

bopper

I see. No, I believe the dad is guilty, was involved in pedophilia (and his buddies) and knows exactly how his daughter died. There was a Christmas party, his buddies were there, and something bad happened. In the other comments they're talking about Kay Griggss, she believed pedos were involved.

bopper

The whole thing is very complicated because it was trying to be covered up. Just in case you haven't seen this interview I'll leave it here, don't feel obligated. Law enforcement mistreated this lady cop and she was further villified by the public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aly2fPK-XE

ArthurEdens

I saw a doc on youtube with a general's wife saying they don't let you advance unless you have gay sex with them. I know it sounds funny but that's what she said. The interview was late 90's pre fema camps i think.

Here it is. It's kind of funny. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=plxijxfg7v0

cosmicmind

That vid is really interesting. A few years ago this woman would have been dismissed as a deranged conspiracy theorist, but this story might be describing the military wife's ''thing'' . Check out at 24:30 on, she's talking about young boys, not sure how old they were, so maybe it wasn't just sex between each other at 27:00.

bopper

He abused her, she suffered battered wife syndrome (or whatever it's called). Just noting that, has nothing to do with what you said was funny ... I agree, the way Kay says some things in the interview makes you chuckle.

ProudTruther

Yeah I ran into Kay Grigg's material a year or so ago. But it rang true then and now its like holy shit, people like this brave woman are the real deal. Government mind control is real and the world is run by pedophiles who treat us like cattle.

JoJoVoat

its not funny, its true.. I've read that somewhere during this investigation :-)

ArthurEdens

I didn't mean to sound callous. I just thought the part where she said her husband got blitzed drunk all the time and then they cut to him passed out on the front lawn was funny.

JoJoVoat

oh I know... I wasnt being mean or sarcastic... that's why i put the smiley face. ;-)

ArthurEdens

Oh okay, just making sure. Haha :) thanks jojo

JoJoVoat

No worries! https://www.flickr.com/photos/146343979@N02/30839316085/in/photostream/ so check this pic out and tell m whats on top of this pizza? these are flikr photos from either JA or his friends (not sure if thats a real name) but I think we may have missed this early on... it looks like organs or shit on top of the pizza!!!!

Beaucephus

I've seen a lot of this. it's brain matter. The meninges is the smooth looking outer and the brain matter inside is gritty looking. This is brain matter.

zoltan907

Gross! It looks like liver or something. They make a lamb sausage pizza, but the photos I've seen of that show meatballs, not an elongated piece of meat like that.

JoJoVoat

elongated.... hmmmm hope its not two penises
couldnt help myself

bopper

Elongated ... man that's the weird part, and you made me laugh, now I feel bad. Goodnight.

ArthurEdens

I laughed too. I don't know about you all but I got to take a long break from this, been obsessing since november. maybe I'll check back after the 20th. Hang in there, you guys are cool.

zoltan907

Sorry! This doesn't look much more appetizing, and it's recognizably lamb:

https://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/cdLSilnCRrQoDD1uhvXGOQ/o.jpg

JoJoVoat

with enough garlic cloves on there so you dont taste the rest.. nasty.

ArthurEdens

Seriously. How many cloves are on there.

bopper

Never eating pizza again.

JoJoVoat

bopper what do u think that is? I dont recall anyone catching this yet?

bopper

If you're sure this is from JA or buddies I'd say they posted this as an in your face thing. It looks like organ meat to me, I can't figure what else it would be. I hope this stuff isn't that sick. Dang weird looking meat, and on a pizza?

JoJoVoat

but they do eat human body parts and babies... sick shit but its part of their ritual. They love doing this "in your face" bs.
check out the satanic calendar... I created a subverse but it got downvoated. I think these dates are important to look into and cross reference with travel dates/locations etc. wiht these sick bastards.. Might lead us to something if nothing more than a potential location.
Oh, and by the way, that pix was posted 11/7. Check this out: Nov 1 Satanist High (Holy Day related to Halloween) blood human sacrifice any age (male or female)

Nov 4 Satanic Revels sexual oral, anal, vaginal 7-17 (female)

http://www.theopenscroll.com/hosting/SatanicCalendar.htm

ArthurEdens

Um??? No way I'd eat that even pre pizzagate. Instincts kicked right in. It looks disgusting. People say on yelp their pizza smells and tastes funny. I think we know what it is and why he posted it. You know a Molloch has an oven looking opening with fire which looks like a pizza oven where the sacrifices go. Good god. You should start a post with this.

JoJoVoat

well I would and think there should be one on thsi but that armysheer person just banned me from pizzagateshill and said that i was a Amalek alt... whatever the fuck that means. so Im not going to do it rt now casue Im afraid she will block me altogether.. I dont understand what I did to get that bs Armysheer has lost his/her mind ... there's zero reason. I dont downvoat pizzagate investigations, I only downvoat the dipshits trying to discredit pizzagate.

bopper

They were really giving me a hard time a few days ago, it was on Assange, took me three tries, and they made me make a 'relevant' comment on it too. But your mod sounds crazier than mine.

ArthurEdens

Happened to me so many times too. I don't blame you for not wanting to.

SayWhatNOWAY

Me also I tried posting some stuff on the Dozier story in FL and everything I posted they said was links that was no longer working?? Opened up for me just fine!

JoJoVoat

I cant wait till Jan 20th or so to see what happens.. Im worn out on this research like many of use Im sure.. Nightmares.