stellarcorpse

This is Scott Cummings . Caris james dad. Chicken lover dude. I think he is also haunting voat but I could be wrong.

Vindicator

Really? That is interesting. How did you discover this? The more links we can add to these threads, the more valuable they will be to anyone actually busting these guys IRL.

Vindicator

Banned https://voat.co/messages/

I don't quite follow what this means. Please explain a little further?

My sense with Millennial Falcon is that he is trying to delete the unbelievable amount of non-pizzagate crap posted to this board daily, just to keep it up and functioning. This has to be done around the clock, and he is often the only one doing it. I just started helping with it. Sometimes you delete stuff that was posted with good intent that maybe just wasn't well put-together, because it is coming in so fast. It's very easy to not take the time to comment in a way that keeps the lines of communication open. Just take a peek at the removed submissions area of v/pizzagate and you will understand what I'm talking about. I personally trust him at this point. He is defending the board at all hours of the day.

VieBleu

Vindicator responded to me a couple of hours ago and said he was investigating at my specific request why you were added to the shill list, and about taking you off, so at least he responded positively. You can see our exchange at the bottom of this thread. Let me know if anything happens about this.

quantokitty

Great catch. And is it true someone put Pizzagate_detective on the shill list? No!!! Pizzagate_detective found the Pegasus Museum and has had a couple of MAJOR posts that helped in uncovering JA and Pizzagate. Not a shill ... not!!!

rodeo13

I agree, and posted on the shill list. Pizzagate_detective is one of the first researchers I saw on Voat with real info. They are NOT a shill. Why is armyseer creating this list, and not a mod?

quantokitty

Have no idea. I never even look at it. I'm just shocked to see Pizzagate_detective on there. She or he must have pissed some people off! Good work!!!

VieBleu

I don't know if you'll see this in the comments so I'm adding it here as copypasta- I like transparency so no need for PM

@Vindicator To add some atmosphere, there's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Qnt5bx1OIYouTube

I request that you immediately remove this poster pizzagate_detective from the known shill list. Here it is - https://voat.co/v/pizzagateshills/1531628 Even if you didn't put that person there, it is now a request that you take steps to have them removed. Transparency? Then also tell us who voted them on and placed them there. That'll be the day, right? Prove my skepticism wrong, please. Prove your name means something, or prove it does not. Ball in your court.

quantokitty

Agree. Pizzagate_detective is so not a shill. They discovered Pegasus Museum! That was HUGE!

VieBleu

Pg_detective taken OFF shill list, and we were thanked for speaking up. Just goes to show that with some effort there can be accountability around here, so keep chin up and speak up directly to mods when you are sure something is off.

quantokitty

Oh, great! Glad to hear that. Yeah, Pizzagate_detective had some great posts.

VieBleu

any more infor on why you think so or who he might be? thx

Yuser_Manuel

Attempted to match the face with those on JA facebook. He has a long friends list and alot of people have beards..which can be removed easily.

VieBleu

nice catch

VieBleu

This was my earlier comment on the deleted thread. Hi mods : D!

Anyway, whether my argument ends up having merit or not, I'd like the info to be connected to this submission:

I don't know why, but instantly when I saw this photo, I remembered this portion of a video that I saw weeks ago.

The filmaker and his buddy when to CPP and walked around it. They noticed a lot of activity that seemed shady to them, and explored the parking lot, looking at how the back door of the "kids party room" as Alefantis himself calls it, leads to the parking lot and a wooded area. Just as they were filming, a guy left CPP out this back door, herding five boys along in a hurry. It was in the earlier days of pizzagate and coverage of it was actually airing on the tv inside CPP. The film makers thought it seemed weird and it does look weird.

Look at the guy, he's at 1:49, then look at some of the video leading up to that point for context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMGGSY0A8r8YouTube Obviously it can't be a sure match, but the guy herding kids around has a similar hairline and nose to your guy in the picture. Judge for yourself and tell me what you think.

Vindicator

Thanks for reposting and providing context. Please provide an actual link to the Instragram archive establishing this truly is from there. Also, please explain why this relates to the Pizzagate investigation. I will leave this up so you can do this in the comments. Thanks.

VieBleu

@Vindicator To add some atmosphere, there's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Qnt5bx1OI

I request that you immediately remove this poster pizzagate_detective from the known shill list. Here it is - https://voat.co/v/pizzagateshills/1531628 Even if you didn't put that person there, it is now a request that you take steps to have them removed. Transparency? Then also tell us who voted them on and placed them there. That'll be the day, right? Prove my skepticism wrong, please. Prove your name means something, or prove it does not. Ball in your court.

Vindicator

I feel your pain. I'm not sure what is going on with that sub...I just janitor. I will look into it and bring the mods into the loop. I suspect someone created that shill list sub and started banning from it to disrupt the investigation. Investigating now.

VieBleu

Thanks for your reply - really appreciated.

Vindicator

No problem. Here's what I found out: Looks like you and @PhishingTeam successfully got @pizzagate_detective removed from the shill list. Thanks for speaking up.

Millennial Falcon says the shills sub is not affiliated with this sub. It's an independent attempt to herd the trolls, sometimes over zealously. It is a helpful list for mods though; it's difficult to tell the intentions behind a lot of these posts from lesser-knowns, especially during flooding waves.

Thank you all for your patience and understanding, your solid contributions, and willingness to communicate when things go sideways. :-)

VieBleu

In a subverse riddled with shadow and smoke, your follow through is better than free bitcoin. cheers.

Vindicator

Thanks!

remedy4reality

Do all Mods think that Voaters are INCAPABLE of understanding if any particular post relates to PG ? Like this one DOES, 100%.

Vindicator

No, definitely not! Here's my personal take: it was the wild west, with all manner of genuinely unhelpful crap being posted. Voat is vigorously anti-censorship. In order to keep the discussion on track, the community -- AS a community -- created a set of rules with much discussion -- that would set some boundaries that would allow the legitimate removal of crap posts so that the board wouldn't be overwhelmed. This is a bandwidth issue as well as a quality experience for users issue. The rules have to be enforced consistently, though, or it won't be fair. Please be patient; over time this will be a really positive thing. In the meantime, comments are uncensored, and you can post all kinds of stuff to v/pizzagatewhatever that does not have the same rigor of standards.