Pegasus Video Removed Because of Alefantis Threat ( pizzagate )

submitted by LaDonnaRae

So the asshole is so arrogant that he allows someone to call him? Alefantis is an investigator's DREAM. Arrogant, thinks he is untouchable, willing to spar with anyone because he is "superior"...in other words, a textbook psychopath. SO, FBI, where are you again? Still on break? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U&feature=youtu.be

LaDonnaRae

Joined on the 24th? Interesting.

Ariastrasza

Unfortunately he is not wrong, he is untouchable.

LaDonnaRae

No, he is not untouchable.

Ariastrasza

I want to believe that too, but I have to face reality, remember when the thousands of pentagon employees were found with child porn and the investigation was canceled for lack of funds?, this people have friends in high places all the way to the top, in the US and the UK in which an investigation involving high ranking officials was canceled because according to them the evidence was lost because of a computer glitch.

LaDonnaRae

I am aware of an investigation at the Pentagon over computer pornography, but I never heard anything about evidence being "lost". What I heard was the investigation was dropped and I can think of a number of reasons why that might be. Just to name one: I doubt seriously 6,000+ people at the Pentagon are so STUPID as to keep child pornography on their work computers knowing the Pentagon AND FBI regularly check their security clearances, and that INCLUDES THE RIGHT TO SEARCH ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE PERSON BEING INVESTIGATED. Like I said, that is just ONE point.

Ariastrasza

Your one point doesn't mean anything, yes they were that stupid, they have nothing to fear, they are protected.

Everything I just said, you can confirm by yourself, you don't have to believe me, I'm not asking to be believed based on my claim, everything I said can be confirmed with a very simple internet search, with multiple sources, not conspiracy theory sources but actual news sources.

Want to know how well connected this people are?, California just legalized child prostitution. https://vid.me/gji2

LaDonnaRae

DUH. As IF I did not read the story about #California. I was only BORN THERE and spent DECADES (overall) LIVING THERE. And obviously you have never worn a uniform because WE WHO HAVE HAD SECURITY CLEARANCES ARE WELL-AWARE THAT, IF WE HAVE SOME SORT OF DEVIANT/ILLEGAL TENDENCIES WE HAD BETTER COVER OUR TRACKS AND NOT USE WORK COMPUTERS FOR THAT PURPOSE. You are a complete idiot.

Ariastrasza

Alright, since you are too stupid to do your own search, here is the information you claim is false, because you never heard about it.

Goverment deletes database about pedophiles ring http://thefreethoughtproject.com/government-investigators-apologize-deleting-evidence-paedophile-ring/

5200 pentagon employees caught with child porn- http://thefreethoughtproject.com/government-investigators-apologize-deleting-evidence-paedophile-ring/

Oh wait, you are blocking me for providing providing information about the pedhophiles?, just in what side are you?

Ariastrasza

The fuck?, why are you so angry?.

All I did is to point out the fact that you can confirm everything I said, and that you don't have to believe me.

LaDonnaRae

Um, when I am angry you will know all about it.

Ariastrasza

Well you did call me an idiot for no good reason, and keep typing in caps, so relax.

If anything, you should confirm or disprove my claims with a simple internet search, then you can call me a liar, but don't do it just because you never heard about it before I mention, don't call people idiots just because you haven't taken 2 minutes to confirm the information.

LaDonnaRae

We are back to what I have said repeatedly, and I really wish Voat were more conducive to CONVERSATION, because then perhaps I would not have to REPEAT MYSELF A MILLION FUCKING TIMES ON THE SAME THREAD!!!!! I frankly do not care WTF Alefantis did or did not do. What is suspicious is the behavior of the person claiming he was threatened. AND, while Alefantis is a psychopath, he is not a complete-fucking-idiot and I do not believe he would leave a death threat IN PRINT for someone to take to the nearest cop.

Ariastrasza

He is not stupid, he knows he is untouchable, just like the pentagon employees with child porn who got away with it, just like the UK parliament members who got away with it, this is not him being stupid, this is him knowing that he has the power to do whatever he wants to do, and no law enforcement agency will touch him.

LaDonnaRae

AGAIN, you have no idea how the Pentagon works, so obviously you have no business worrying about James Alefantis.

Ariastrasza

Here, Government mysteriously deleting all evidence from pedophiles ring. http://thefreethoughtproject.com/government-investigators-apologize-deleting-evidence-paedophile-ring/

Who is the idiot now?, you are still going to claim that this never happened, just because you were to stupid for find it by yourself?.

LaDonnaRae

BLOCKED.

Ariastrasza

You do realize that I'm not making a baseless claim?, you pretend to know how the pentagon works, but have you even verified my claim?.

Since you are too lazy or stupid to do your own internet search, here let me help you with some proof.

From CNN- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7n316nGhVo&ab_channel=AlexanderHiggins

LaDonnaRae

Oh, WOW! YES! CNN is the ultimate authority on all things military! SO WHEN DID YOU ACTUALLY SERVE IN THE MILITARY? Obtain a security clearance? Have it renewed? Learn the UCMJ (do you even know what that is?!)? Go away. You get more stupid by the instant.

AnUnconcernedCitizen

Y'know, for a while there, I was willing to give Alefantis the benefit of the doubt. Until, that is, I saw him on Megyn Kelly. He has the body language and appearance of a genuine psychopath. But worst of all was the fact that he was lying, and badly.

LaDonnaRae

Oh, the guy is a psychopath in the true medical definition of the word. Without question. Even that first impromptu video outside of CPP. He was LAUGHING at the accusation he is a pedophile! Would you not want to KILL SOMEONE who accused you of something so horrific? Yet he thought it was funny. Enough said about Alefantis!

comeonpeople

You guys really believe that bullshit? It's incredible how easily any idiot can convince you all of absolutely ANYTHING, yet you insist you are "investigators" and "redpilled".

LaDonnaRae

EXACTLY!

salinaslayer

The most important part is his people are watching the FBI and that they liked your videos was a problem, they are onto that information about Pegasus and he's clearly distressed about it

also he says he doesn't like kids and I don't believe Pizzagate is about kids either

LaDonnaRae

The bottom line is, the video starts out with "James Alefantis" at the top of the Sprint screen. Then when it gets to the important part "James Alefantis" disappears and suddenly it is just some random conversation with God-only-knows-who. Definitely bullshit.

FriesischShipping

Talking with JA without recording it doesn't add anything to the investigation other than more confusion, frustration, and manipulation. No detective/investigator would go to an interview/confessional without recording it. This is such BS.

LaDonnaRae

Good point.

salinaslayer

the number is from DC area though

LaDonnaRae

Yes, I am familiar with the area code.

salinaslayer

Well they did have all his personal information, so this is not a random joker

I don't think they realize this information is already out and it's incredibly hard to suppress, had he been more discreet we wouldn't be discussing it now, had he acknowledged none of the information he puts online is safe from prying eyes his whole operation wouldn't be threatened now, whatever that may be that he's doing

It's interesting to see this guy is just as driven by his own family's security as everybody else, it's a legitimate concern but obviously the public isn't out to get his family, people are just driven by curiosity

LaDonnaRae

The story stinks to high heaven. If I had death threats from James Alefantis I would be filing criminal charges against the asshole. I mean, is that not what everyone wants? Alefantis behind bars? So why is this guy making YouTube videos instead of getting the man locked up? And regardless of what messaging system is being used (I saw other comments in this regard) it ALSO makes no sense that Alefantis would be that stupid. He may be a pedophile, but he has been around the block enough times to know he cannot threaten someone in print and think no one is going to see it. Especially now that PizzaGate is a "thing".

salinaslayer

Most of that conversation is him trying to confirm your identity, by putting you in pressure

Sentastixc

This is obviously a false flag. No reason whatsoever to believe Alefantis would have a phone call with some stranger investigating him and subsequently (criminally)threaten him and his family.

To all who fall for this, please turn on your brain.

LaDonnaRae

Yes, we are having that conversation right now on Gab. Someone is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY convinced Alefantis threatened the guy...even though "James Alefantis" disappears from the cell phone screen and we have no idea who/what was posting the comments shown on the video. #SMFH

SpikyAube

Yes, because at first they were talking on Facebook, and on Facebook messenger it has the name of the person at the top. Then, after the guy called JA, JA had his cellphone number and texted him. So then the other messages were in iMessage, and it didn't have the name at the top because the number hadn't been saved in his phone under any name. It doesn't indicate that he is lying at all. It just also isn't proof that it really is JA he's talking to. I think we should give the guy the benefit of the doubt, he seemed genuinely scared, and the way the conversations went seemed genuine, there was confusion and misunderstandings and questions being answered after a second question had been asked etc. I guess you could contrive that kind of text conversation but I don't think anyone would really think to do that to make it seem more authentic.

LaDonnaRae

So go to the police. Why the YouTube video? Press CHARGES! The video reeks of a publicity stunt.

FriesischShipping

FAKE NEWS! If he didn't record it, he's a fucking chump and I'm not interested. We need proofs at this point and not 5th grade he said she said bullshit.

LaDonnaRae

You got it.

SpikyAube

He did go to the police and file a report, he posted it on here somewhere.

pizzagatewillnotdie

You said this earlier, did you change your mind?

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1541726/7504773

I think it is real, and most of "law enforcement" is compromised. I am having that fight as we speak. No one wants to deal with this. Cops are either too scared, being blackmailed, enjoying having their palms greased, or something. It is going to take a concerted effort to break through this shit.

LaDonnaRae

That appears to be a comment I made on a different thread (or I thought I was posting to a different thread). Voat still confuses me. I get all of this stuff in my mailbox and sometimes it gets confusing. That post had NOTHING to do with the Pegasus video. I was referring to PizzaGate itself. This guy is a fraud. He is SO TERRIFIED that he refuses to go to law enforcement, but he SHOWS HIS FACE ON YOUTUBE? Yeah, that makes sense. If I think someone is going to kill me, the first thing I am going to do is run out and post my face all over the Internet so the killer(s) can identify me. Um. OK. Sure.

pizzagatewillnotdie

It was said in this thread that you created, seemingly in support of the content creator.

So the asshole is so arrogant that he allows someone to call him? Alefantis is an investigator's DREAM. Arrogant, thinks he is untouchable, willing to spar with anyone because he is "superior"...in other words, a textbook psychopath. SO, FBI, where are you again? Still on break? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U&feature=youtu.be

That's literally your post at the top of this page. Am I correct in my reading, when you originally started this thread, you were in support of the creator?

LaDonnaRae

Um, someone posted a comment about my saying "...it is real"??? OMFG I am so confused. ANYWAY, the comment about being "real" was about PizzaGate. As for this video, if you read what I said, I did not deny there was some sort of contact between the Pegasus guy and Alefantis. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING SO-CALLED DEATH THREAT. It is BOGUS. What part of that do you not follow???

pizzagatewillnotdie

Ok, I understand now. No need for hostility when I'm simply trying to figure out where you are coming from. Please stop typing in caps, it doesn't help your cause.

LaDonnaRae

I type the way I type. And I am not hostile so much as frustrated. I do not like Voat's format in the first place; it is very difficult to follow ONE CONVERSATION when you get posts in your inbox from ten threads and have to pull up each one individually (thereby losing your place and you have to find the damned comment you are trying to answer). However, I thought I have been quite clear about this guy. I have posted about this video not only on here but on YouTube and Gab, and my comments have all been the same. Alefantis is an arrogant ass who for some ridiculous reason decided to answer a total stranger (but psychopaths do that; however since I am not a psychopath it really is hard to comprehend such behavior). But the idea that he was stupid enough to threaten someone in print is ludicrous. He is psychotic, but he is not stupid.

pizzagatewillnotdie

I'm on the fence, could be either really. I'm not ready to take a stance yet, but I do think it would be very stupid of Ryan to accuse JA publicly of death threats if it weren't true. JA could easily win a case in court. That's the part that keeps me interested. Why would Ryan accuse JA with allegations that could financially ruin him, possibly for the rest of his life, if he's lying. Maybe he caught JA on a coke binge, or drunk, and he wasn't thinking clearly (if he did make the threats).

LaDonnaRae

Conversely, why would you make a video about a suspected pedophile/child trafficker/child murderer threatening to kill you when you have the evidence on your cell phone to have the guy locked up immediately?

pizzagatewillnotdie

He didn't have the threats on his phone from anything of what I saw. And it would be a good idea to go public if the threats were real, in hopes that might keep you a bit more safe with thousands of people knowing, all around the world, about the threats.

LaDonnaRae

He was inferring threats from the family photo Alefantis allegedly posted. Nevertheless, which is safer? YouTube, or having the guy locked up? I know if someone threatens to kill me, I call 911. I do not grab the nearest camcorder and hit YouTube.

pizzagatewillnotdie

Him posting the guys pictures isn't going to get him put in jail, unless there's a direct threat related through text afterwards. I agree it could go against JA if it ever went to court, but it's not going to get the police to go and arrest him. It's circumstantial, again which is worth using in a court case, but not going to get JA arrested.

LaDonnaRae

I agree with you there, which gets us back to PUBLICITY STUNT. I find the story to be suspect in the first place, but even if everything happened the way he said it did...I have had people post bullshit to me on social media that was supposed to scare me. I completely blew it off, because they WANTED that reaction. IF Alefantis really did post that photo of the guy's family, the point was to scare him. Mission complete, and now Alefantis is having yet another good laugh. I just would never have made that video, regardless. SMFH

pizzagatewillnotdie

If he truly felt threatened by Alenfantis, putting it all online for everyone to see and creating a public record is one of the smartest things he could have done.

LaDonnaRae

You are completely missing the point. I get YOUR point, but there is no reason to post it online and NOT file criminal charges! At least file a fucking civil suit alleging intimidation, harassment, or something! This is nothing but a PUBLICITY STUNT.

pizzagatewillnotdie

He filed a police report

LaDonnaRae

I did not see that part. If he did, good. But then again, why no arrest? OH, that's right. Every cop in America is protecting Alefantis?

pizzagatewillnotdie

Here is the police report number.

https://sli.mg/tfmmJz

LaDonnaRae

OK, so now I get to pay for the police report to find out if this number has anything whatsoever to do with James Alefantis? SMFH

pizzagatewillnotdie

Online sleuthing isn't fun, easy, or cheap. I understand the frustration.

LaDonnaRae

I was being sarcastic. I am not going to sink one penny into this. And I am no longer "online sleuthing", anyway. I am on the ground.

pizzagatewillnotdie

Well, I guess I don't read sarcasm well on this board, because I try to maintain a serious tone so my words cannot be taken out of context.

LaDonnaRae

It is said that sarcasm is popular among those of high intellect. Others tend not to appreciate it so much.

pizzagatewillnotdie

I very much enjoy sarcasm in real life. Through text, not so much. You miss all the physical cues of basic communication when you can't hear tone, read faces, and deduce body language. Sarcasm online when discussing serious topics isn't the greatest of ideas.

LaDonnaRae

This is true, but some of us cannot help ourselves. Especially when the temptation is too much to resist. ;-)

pizzagatewillnotdie

Perhaps you might consider a bit of self control should you choose to participate in conversation where truth and understanding are extremely important ;-)

LaDonnaRae

Perhaps you need to not worry about how I present myself and concern yourself, instead, with facts. My personality has absolutely nothing to do with any-fucking-thing.

pizzagatewillnotdie

When you admittedly use incorrect/untrue information/communication in a conversation with me, then speak condescendingly to me for not being able to translate your use of random sarcasm through use of fonts, I can speak about the flaws in your ability to communicate clearly and honestly to me online on a topic of very serious discussion. ;-)

LaDonnaRae

In other words, you care NOTHING about the topic. You would rather engage in minutia. Go to work for CNN and leave the rest of us to WORK.

pizzagatewillnotdie

Keeping people honest and helping reduce instances where information can be misconstrued (eg: sarcasm) is a very important part of sharing information and communicating effectively on this topic/website. Don't let your need to be right or "smarter" than someone else cause unnecessary divide or hostility in our already small and somewhat divided community.

LaDonnaRae

I lost my patience with idiots a long time ago, and PizzaGate is no exception. If people do not do their homework I am not going to spend my time holding their hands and playing tutor FOR NO PAY. I give out information I believe to be true. If it turns out not to be true, I correct it. But I am not in the business of coddling. I was not raised that way, and I am not going to start at this late point in my life.

LaDonnaRae

Um, someone posted a comment about my saying "...it is real"??? OMFG I am so confused. ANYWAY, the "real" comment was about PizzaGate. As for this video, if you read what I said, I did not deny there was some sort of contact between the Pegasus guy and Alefantis. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING SO-CALLED DEATH THREAT. It is BOGUS. What part of that do you not follow???

za-throwaway

Here is a zip file containing source files of the kill room vid plus this new threat video. Make copies and upload everywhere you can. http://dropcanvas.com/#81w48kQXCJr1Ui

MichelleK

Praying for you.

OrwellKnew

All I can say is, January 20th will be here soon. This changes everything

kthanxie

Might change something, but not in a good way.. Still going to have another puppet speaking for our government.

LaDonnaRae

Not really.

cosmicmind

If the video texts are real, it sure is a textbook psychopath for sure! He counts down like he's on a chase and hunt, very controlling along with the feeling of being untouchable and invincible.
If the vid is real, this guy and the witness should take this to the police or a lawyer (I"d go to a lawyer myself) at least to protect his child from being threatened. If the guy doesn't do this, then it can't be authentic and we've been scammed.

throwawaa

I want to believe IsThisGameOfThrones but his proof video isn't proof. See https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1541808/7505552 .

In 30 seconds I reproduced it by right clicking the name on a chat window in facebook, clicking Inspect Element, and then editing the url that the link goes to. That link stays the same even if you click Home, because the chat window is not reloaded. Here's what it looks like if you right click the link and click Inspect: http://sli.mg/0TAgTw.pngPNG -- easy to edit the url.

He needs to do a livestream and prove it in multiple different ways suggested on the fly by other trusted people here. That would convince me. If it's worth that much effort to prove this. But if we can't prove it, it's not really much use to us.

LaDonnaRae

I think it is real, and most of "law enforcement" is compromised. I am having that fight as we speak. No one wants to deal with this. Cops are either too scared, being blackmailed, enjoying having their palms greased, or something. It is going to take a concerted effort to break through this shit.

cosmicmind

It really is going to take a full-on effort isn't it.
the texts sound like the basic comments I've heard from him. It would definitely be his style, refusing to answer questions and belittling and demeaning the ones he does answer.
That's a death threat that JA can make to this ytuber, but that JA doesn't want to receive himself? That's a big wow on the self-entitlement sociopathic scale.

Yes, about the morally compromised law enforcement. My relative is a sheriff and he couldn't really care less. He used to be my favorite, now I have a hard time tolerating him. Yeah, I think JA is so arrogant that he can't help himself... it's just who/what he is. It's his ''culture''.

OrwellKnew

Difficult as it is to imagine, law enforcement are just people. People belong to systems. And systems control behavior. Remember Sheriff Joe Arpaio's press conference in December? He showed the world that Barack Obama's alleged birth certificate was a complete and total fraud

Sheriff Joe: Obama’s Long-form Birth Certificate Is Fraudulent

When this was broadcast on live TV in December, ask yourself why didn't any of the Secret Service, who are all sworn law enforcement, slap the cuffs on Obama at this point?

edit: your answer to THIS question will also explain the ones you have here

LaDonnaRae

I find this to be positively insane, and it is driving me insane. I have LE background. How the FUCK does law enforcement turn a blind eye to this? *OK. So. You did not see a video of the child being raped. Sorry we did not get to satisfy your lust, but when the evidence says it happened, WTF is your problem?!) I have contacted the U.S. Attorney's office in D.C. TWICE and have been ignored. I have also tried to contact the FBI, but I am not satisfied those attempts actually got through (they have a shitload of security). But, I have just decided to try a different tactic; perhaps IT will work? We shall see, but no one can say I am not trying....

cosmicmind

I think my sheriff relative is desensitized at this point so that it's all in a ''normal'' day to him. This is part of the normalization tolerance that's gone on, but I don't know how compromised he is. He's put $ over ethics, and I taught him ethics when he was a kid. He's got kids of his own. Geez, people don't realize how children are a reflection of our future.

I wouldn't even want to see a child rape, if the police or legal authorities say it's there, that's enough for me. I couldn't stomach it and not going emotional.

thank you for trying to the best of your ability, as am I. It's not easy. I've compiled a number of articles and vids that I'm sending to people, the project flicker shelved investigation, along with a psychology report stating the mushrooming effect of cp viewing which can desensitize into action, different sites, like wiki pizzagate, plus an interesting vid I landed on the other day describing Kinsey's desensitization and normalization project of pedophilia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTn8YuqW--w

Facebook blocks most of the content, and my report that they allow pages to be spammed with explicit porn vids while blocking educational anti-pedo links will likely be ignored.

Politicians and LE seem to be in their own world, as long as it doesn't effect them they don't care.

Maybe it's time to take it to the next phase.

LaDonnaRae

There are people out there. We just have to find them. Not everyone in law enforcement is desensitized, corrupt, participating, or just collecting a paycheck. It will take some work, but we can find the people who will do this thing.

OrwellKnew

Yeah man. I called the Secret Service and asked "Did you not see Obama's fraud birth certificate?"

they hung up on me. Gee, wonder why?

FriesischShipping

HAHAHAHA

LaDonnaRae

LOL

knight222

Share it on https://vid.me/

LaDonnaRae

Share what? The video of the 15-year-old?

Antonius

Don't let him scare you. He is a bullshitter.

LaDonnaRae

So I see. ROFL! And (just in case you have not noticed) I do not "scare". What these morons do not realize is I was raised by a Master Chief. I know bullshit galaxies before anyone else smells it, and I do not scare. ;-)