https://voat.co/user/AreWeSure

Confirmation bias.There is no proof of this, and it discredits the entire investigation to proceed as if there was. The whole thing is starting to look pretty wack.

See, now that is interesting.

Who died and left you king?

Can you fuck off?

You are the sole decider of who goes on that list. I've been involved with pizzagate a fuck ton longer than you have. You're just a sad little man with a sad little list.

Yeah he should act all freaked out. and keep being like this is the crazierst thing ever over and over too.

The kid is freaking out. The whole time he's like "this is the craziest 24 hours, this is the craziest thing that's ever happened to me,"

It's a hobby in a sense that it takes up our time, but people often use it to describe a fun activity. If you go to counselling and therapy 8 hours per day, then I wouldn't call that a hobby. This isn't fun for some of us, but we are zealous about it.

Why so many downvoats? This is legit. Can confirm this is very easy to do. The thought even entered my mind while watching that guy's video.

Just because something could be faked, it doesn't mean it was faked.

The background sound is unique to SF mass transit.

Yes. Is it possible he/she is a computer geek with no friends? Also yes.

This type of account behavior is suspicious and should be questioned IMO.

Where the profile pic?

Not too sure looking back at it. If TGOT went through all this trouble to prank us, seems kind of elaborate considering the dialogue that took place. IMO TGOT doesn't seem like a complete idiot, yet at the same time he should have known the legal repercussions if faked. Either way he should at least provide a live feed to prove he didn't fake the page. (eh, but I admit this is me hoping he's telling the truth)

@unconceivable , is there any way he can prove he did not edit the source code?

My "liar sense" was tingling when watching the videos of the text conversation with Alephantis. However, I still think the Pegasus property should stay under the microscope.

@unconceivable , thanks for posting this!

And you still have not justified why I was added to this list.

Why don't you do that for me?

It's just too unbelievable. Why would alfantis perosnally call and threaten people? Why would he expose himself like that? Bullshit

evidence of your shill list being based on anything would be nice

who's "we" exactly?

I'm not smearing, I'm asking for evidence since you ARE LITERALLY accusing a lot of people of being shills.

Meanwhile my post history is in question because I "liked whatever?" --- I've never down voted and this is now a negative thing? FFS

I have no smear campaign against anyone by asking for evidence but.. thanks for calling me evil for no reason :)

The video is fake. Him and Alefantis aren't friends in the video. When you message someone who isn't your friend, the video and call icons are greyed out. In the video, they are not greyed out. Might be worth making a full post about it for visibility.

Edit: I made a thread and looks like this is a duff lead. Icons go white once someone accepts your friend request. Could be alefantis, could be edited.

Does anyone else see the 33's in this? I agree with the contents of the video only the 33's are abound with this particular topic.

Supply evidence before you start accusing mass amounts of people.

You bitch there is no evidence, then supply none on your supposed shill list.

Im just not playing your PR game velvethammer.

You do this in your spare time, or did your owners actually appoint to annoy us?

How about you start by confirming any evidence for any of your claims before mass slandering people.

Thanks!

BTW voaters:

Don't doxx yourself by buying swag from controlled oppo.

Don't doxx yourself calling some fellow whose phone number was accidentally-on-purpose leaked so he ends up claiming threats and getting extra police protection, sympathy, narrative control.

The increase of posts of stupid youtube videos, the t-shirt guy, the attempts to slide the forum to "kill room" obsession, all reek of controlled opposition and efforts to doxx voaters as well as steer the narrative in unproductive directions.

Youtube is a way to get voaters to waste 10-20 minutes on a low value post that rehashes old speculation, for the most part. Dramatically reduces the investigative power.

A poster's goal should be to spend hours researching something that can be digested in minutes or seconds, not to have voaters wasting hours clicking through wanna-be talking head videos of neckbeards chasing a pointer around secondhand browser screenshots.

Ramping up the drama and stress, highlighting alefantis's phone., etc., seem like great motivators for fools with keyboards -or firearms- (paid shill type as well as unstable fool type). So, "don't go there" especially not to stage another false flag.

Some of this stuff could be true, but it seems mighty sketchy. The only way I can see ISGOT's claims being true is if perhaps Alefantis has some substance abuse issues that got out of hand last night.

But seriously no self-doxxing, please no standup/screenshot youtubes, and don't do nothin' stupid.

I appreciate the people scrutinizing the recent Alefantis story and I think more proof needs to be brought forward if things like this can be so easily replicated, but I'm seeing people jump to quickly at shill accusations. Like this pizzagateshill community seems to have people in there that I don't think it's clear they're shills. If it's an honest attempt to prevent this community from being divided, it shouldn't be acting so quick to divide the community.

Thank you thank you thank you. They are $hilling hard, too many falling for it.

yup, i think he's trying to inspire copy cats...trying to throw a wrench into this peaceful/lawful citizen investigation.

I'm not saying I have all of JAs phone numbers, but I have 5 of them. None of them end in a 7.

Damn.. Hellova list.. Thanks

I missed all the posts between the original "found the killroom!" and "easily faked." So, looking back, it definitely all smells like bullshit to me. This is the guy selling pizzagate merch? If he's not a shill or agent, he's an opportunist.

So reproduce the reverse phone number search

You still have no proof PTY is thetrumptrain2016. You jusy made that part up. So who's to say you aren't the shill?

Close the inspection window and it reverts!

When I try this and close the inspection screen in chrome it reverts back. Is there a way to maintain the edit with the window closed? The text when hovered still shows the modified link but when you click on it then it goes to the original (when inspection window closes, not when open)

Would be a good way of collecting addresses of researchers who buy shirts too

Can you reproduce the police report he filed?

looooooooool I literally can't fucking believe this community

I am willing to give IsThisGameOfThrones the benefit of the doubt here but he did say he isnt profiting off this...but he states he is...

I do not know how to make a shirt. I ordered these. I like them. I think yall will too if you can get past the fact that Im profiting $4(less if you count my time and the fact that im storing these in my very limited space).

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466935/7105009

https://archive.is/9KJwd

And he cant shut down the website because he doesnt run it...

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1479352/7177527

https://archive.is/4YDkJ

The dude really should not have plugged the website at the end of the vid...

I dont think he even runs his youtube channel...he is just hired to speak for the website owners...and they are the ones that choose what gets removed and what doesnt.

Had anyone posted those pictures of the interior of Pegasus before? If not then maybe Ryan is not a shill but maybe craves attention by spicing up his posts?

You're right it is easily faked and I find that really annoying but I don't think @isthisgameofthrones realised that when he did it. Go look through his comment history and you'll see he's been involved in this for a while and is contributing and investigating. I don't see why he'd larp for months on end just to sell tshirts when clearly nobody wants to walk around in a pizzagate tshirt otherwise they'd attract so much negative attention.

I believe it is true, why, the whole thing is way too complicated to be fake.

Thank you. I'm glad to know at least some people are aware of this!

Thank you for posting this.

This game of thrones guy has posted nothing but distractions and misinformation. Not only that, but there's a certain handful of other distraction / misinformation shills who all will suddenly pop up and support everything this guy posts - every single time. It's all way too obvious..

I am seriously shocked at how people quickly believe all of this guys crap without a single doubt.

The whole story does not smell right. This is the first time I have heard someone get threatened by Alefantis. Is JA that dumb? Cmon guys.. It's also suspect he didn't record the phone call with all the death threats... There's PG videos that have gotten millions of views and no one has reported a death threat. This needs to be investigated further as it seems to me like an attempt to scare people from doing further investigative work OR a revenue scheme. PS - If you are fearing for your life, why repost the original video? A police report won't do shit if they want to suicide you.

OP is at a Starbucks doing paid work to hide things. Contractor in SF.

The Alefantis post really concerns me. If it is legitimate, then there are obvious concerns there. If it is fake however, then the shills have effectively won finally. This area seems pretty well split (and passionate) about this being real and fake. They may have actually just fractured the community. Especially if we get a reveal that this is faked, then it shows how easily we can be manipulated.

@unconceivable Thanks for going through the trouble of making a video on this and the hover name too, this shit needs to be called out, he's trying to capatalize on people's emotions during the investigation and making a mockery of it.

Manipulating Hover Proof

ZERO subscribers on this 8 yr old youtube channel. This dude has no friends?

The phone number is posted in the construction permits in his other video. Top right at 5:10 in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7PcSf4Tj8o&feature=youtu.be

in your video you can see that when you hover the mouse over the fake "James Alefantis" name, a sticky comes up with the real name. in the video from ryan, that sticky keeps saying James Alefantis, i think you cant fake that

Hello Alefantis, go back to bed

Exactly. Good work. The guy allegedly has JA's phone number and doesn't have that checked out before posting here? What? Come on now! And he actually believes JA threatens him and his family over the phone and you don't report it to the police. Another big come on now! Very implausible.