I did, I'm just trying to help the guy out. We need 100% undeniable fact. If this is true, it's a "smoking gun". I don't think it's wrong to ask for concrete evidence and I'm leaning towards believing him. If it's not true it's a pretty elaborate trolling involving people well connected, like the OP of that thread suggested.
I believe you. It last night you said he contacted you again after you made the video. You told me you would share what happened after you made the police report. Can you tell us now?
I'm seeing deleted for his Voat account, I've archived it.
Don't worry I think the mod deleted this post however the Voat servers are being DDos'ed overloaded at the moment. We're commenting on a deleted post lol.
The best part was broadcasting it far and wide so everyone knows what Alefantis is whining about lately. To paraphrase Carville - "IT'S THE PEGASUS, STUPID." Sunshine makes the monster squeak. Hard! The surest way to take the air out of a bully is to show that his threats are only that. Better get that rainy day fund in order JComet 'cause you best make a deal or run. How are you going to get your fixes now?
The pegasus location seems to be a lookout for exchanges perhaps. centrally located with clear street views. One person makes the connection while another observes.
Don't forget the playground for kids to have a reason to be in the area, with the watchful window moved to be able to observe it, and the "peeking" comment in IG.
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So when speaking with JA what was your feeling from him? What do you think the target was that you happened to hit upon?
I know he said keep the kill room but get rid of the rest, but what was your feeling? Did he really not mind the kill room? What do you think he was upset? I am assuming you named a higher up in your video that had made threats to JA on his family "mom" But I didn't hear the conversation, what do you feel he was threatened by?
There are lots more pictures that have been posted today of the Pegasus location when it was previously known as Paper Sun; look at those pics and you will see that it is the location. There is even a pic with the "JMB" written on the wall that you see in this pic
https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/s3px8V.png
I would also like to see this video, that others here have claimed, "hit a raw nerve" and as far as I can tell, got alefantis himself to call him several times.
Sounds like quite an awkward cluster fuck. Anyone got the link?
Give him a few of hours if you don't mind - he's been through a lot and is probably not operating as usual just yet. No one here minds that the thread is where it is at for now.
Why does your website appear to follow
this guide
for how to hijack a passionate community almost perfectly?
I think these cast significant doubt on your story. Why don't you provide a video where you scroll through the whole facebook conversation from the most recent message to the beginning? Please also refresh the page on the video. Please do this as a live broadcast to ensure the video isn't edited. Shouldn't be hard - just boot up a quick livestream on YouTube once you have Facebook open. Sorry, but the merch store means I for one hold you to a higher standard. This is a very low-effort way of putting a stop to the questions.
To be fair to him, he said that about profit 30 days ago, he could have just not sold many of them. I'm not sure why the website being registered before he started making videos is important.
I agree it would be good for him to do this so that the people who are concerned/skeptical are satisfied, and so the community doesn't get into arguments over it!!
Of course it's 100% real, I don't understand why people are saying you faked it - why would you go to all that extensive trouble to fake something like that? And the message conversations were clearly natural conversations, no one would fake it that way. Please know that most believe you're telling the truth here. I think people are just suspicious of everything and with good reason I guess, because there are so many bad people out there trying to spread disinfo and confuse things. I hope you're alright and staying safe.
Thanks for all of this, everybody is feeling the pressure as this lead is potentially huge and people hate getting their hopes up, hence all the confusion and wild theories.
Sorry, I deleted my comment instead of editing. English is not my first language, grammar not strong.
What I meant was not
@isthisgamesofthrones
but how people are saying he faked it instead of standing by his side. How they turn against him instead of standing by his side.
stay centered and remember bottom line you are dealing with a bully who is finding out that his infallibility is a myth (ha ha). Online you are dealing with a particularly paranoid if well meaning bunch of people as well as some hostile actors that will do more to try to hurt you than the coward bully will ever get around to. You have more silent support and protection than you can possibly know.
Exactly this. You're incredibly brave, perhaps a little insane, but definitely very brave, not sure how you get pants to fit with those cajones of yours. :-)
It's unfortunate, that you feel that way. I'm not surprised that some people get upset, when you do something good, but you act as if everybody who disagrees with you is the enemy.
This post is well within the rules. He answers questions in the main post, but you can't see that.
Please provide live stream of the FB page and refresh it to show that you didn't go in inspect>element and edit the chat. We need to be 100% this is true. We don't know you and if this is fake you could very well get in trouble with the law. Be careful though. You seem believable, but if we expose this, this would make us really bad if this is all faked.
People were suggesting live streaming the facebook check while refreshing so they know it isn't edited? Personally I believe you just because you'll be sued to shit if you're lying about it.
This is a good point. Is should still direct and display that you're now blocked. I definitely believe but it's important to get all on board and have proof for those still skeptical.
It is 100% real and I'll tell you why.
JA communicates with certain people on this (pizzagate) and has for a while off and on. He's had a hand in getting certain people kicked off Instagram and YouTube when they discuss certain things about him. I know this 100% because I've seen a few of the chat logs and he talks in riddles the exact same way as shown on the YouTube video as he does to the individual who's convos I was sent the screenshots of. He's on here as: birdzeyeview Interesting choice of screenname, as if he's above everyone else looking down. Or maybe at Pegasus on the roof top looking down at the kiddies in the playground.
I sell stuff, too, so I know how it is. If I were you, I would be feeling it, too. However, we're on the receiving end of your promotions, so we have to do what we do.
At least you have more people supporting you than disapproving of you.
@IsThisGameOfThrones
, why did you not post your shirts in the meme forum? That forum is made for your shirt promotions and memes and other things. People want to see what you have to offer.
▼ ThePuppetShow
I did, I'm just trying to help the guy out. We need 100% undeniable fact. If this is true, it's a "smoking gun". I don't think it's wrong to ask for concrete evidence and I'm leaning towards believing him. If it's not true it's a pretty elaborate trolling involving people well connected, like the OP of that thread suggested.
▼ Freed0mFighterZ
Tell's the guy who post nazi memes on other subs.
▼ nitro169
Submitted by Deleted? Phone Call & Visitors, I hope its not raining, at least not enough to get wet...
▼ ArthurEdens
I thought it was in Comet too but new shit has come to light. There are reverse angles of the dig room and it is most definitely at Pegasus.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1543972
The meat locker "kill room" has yet to be located.
▼ wokethefkup
Sorry but if you're afraid for your life you wouldn't be openly saying you have made a police report.
▼ MolochHunter
i think you were incredibly naive. But you are doing Gods work, so its a readily forgivable flaw. Stay safe
▼ srayzie
I believe you. It last night you said he contacted you again after you made the video. You told me you would share what happened after you made the police report. Can you tell us now?
▼ BlueTesla
Is his account not showing as deleted for you?
▼ srayzie
His YouTube account?
▼ BlueTesla
https://archive.fo/aCxnWI'm seeing deleted for his Voat account, I've archived it.Don't worry I think the mod deleted this post however the Voat servers are being DDos'ed overloaded at the moment. We're commenting on a deleted post lol.
▼ srayzie
Lol At least we saw each other's
▼ srayzie
That's weird. I wonder why
▼ srayzie
Oh I see that too.
▼ VieBleu
The best part was broadcasting it far and wide so everyone knows what Alefantis is whining about lately. To paraphrase Carville - "IT'S THE PEGASUS, STUPID." Sunshine makes the monster squeak. Hard! The surest way to take the air out of a bully is to show that his threats are only that. Better get that rainy day fund in order JComet 'cause you best make a deal or run. How are you going to get your fixes now?
▼ nitro169
The pegasus location seems to be a lookout for exchanges perhaps. centrally located with clear street views. One person makes the connection while another observes.
▼ VieBleu
Don't forget the playground for kids to have a reason to be in the area, with the watchful window moved to be able to observe it, and the "peeking" comment in IG.
▼ Crensch
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Actual links (HERE) in the sidebar.
▼ nitro169
So when speaking with JA what was your feeling from him? What do you think the target was that you happened to hit upon?
I know he said keep the kill room but get rid of the rest, but what was your feeling? Did he really not mind the kill room? What do you think he was upset? I am assuming you named a higher up in your video that had made threats to JA on his family "mom" But I didn't hear the conversation, what do you feel he was threatened by?
▼ Yuke
There are lots more pictures that have been posted today of the Pegasus location when it was previously known as Paper Sun; look at those pics and you will see that it is the location. There is even a pic with the "JMB" written on the wall that you see in this pic https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/s3px8V.png
▼ Millennial_Falcon
OP, please add a link to your video. Otherwise I would have to delete this post for violating rule 4.
▼ mrjdouble
I would also like to see this video, that others here have claimed, "hit a raw nerve" and as far as I can tell, got alefantis himself to call him several times.
Sounds like quite an awkward cluster fuck. Anyone got the link?
▼ Millennial_Falcon
it's the top post on the front page ("top" posts).
▼ VieBleu
Give him a few of hours if you don't mind - he's been through a lot and is probably not operating as usual just yet. No one here minds that the thread is where it is at for now.
▼ Investigate1999
If he can cite himself as a source in the video, then his claims in text are a citation for a source in this post.
▼ Throwaway24398021
Why did you claim you don't own the website?
https://archive.is/4YDkJ
Why did you claim you make $4 per shirt if you don't make a profit?
https://archive.is/9KJwd#selection-3135.6-3157.706
Why was your website registered a week before you started making videos?
https://www.whois.com/whois/pizzagategear.com
Why does your website appear to follow this guide for how to hijack a passionate community almost perfectly?
I think these cast significant doubt on your story. Why don't you provide a video where you scroll through the whole facebook conversation from the most recent message to the beginning? Please also refresh the page on the video. Please do this as a live broadcast to ensure the video isn't edited. Shouldn't be hard - just boot up a quick livestream on YouTube once you have Facebook open. Sorry, but the merch store means I for one hold you to a higher standard. This is a very low-effort way of putting a stop to the questions.
▼ BlueTesla
He would make $4 per tshirt if they actually sold, as it stands I doubt people are buying them.
▼ SpikyAube
To be fair to him, he said that about profit 30 days ago, he could have just not sold many of them. I'm not sure why the website being registered before he started making videos is important.
I agree it would be good for him to do this so that the people who are concerned/skeptical are satisfied, and so the community doesn't get into arguments over it!!
▼ Freed0mFighterZ
An example of behavior! I give you an oscar! Ex-O
▼ SpikyAube
Of course it's 100% real, I don't understand why people are saying you faked it - why would you go to all that extensive trouble to fake something like that? And the message conversations were clearly natural conversations, no one would fake it that way. Please know that most believe you're telling the truth here. I think people are just suspicious of everything and with good reason I guess, because there are so many bad people out there trying to spread disinfo and confuse things. I hope you're alright and staying safe.
▼ joe_hill
this thread is a waste of time
focus on pegasus and clinton foundation
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
Guys something came up and I have to go meet a few people. Will update afterwards
▼ BlueTesla
Thanks for all of this, everybody is feeling the pressure as this lead is potentially huge and people hate getting their hopes up, hence all the confusion and wild theories.
▼ BerksResident
You followed up a lead, turned out to be a biggie, I can see zero motivate in you making this up... Just chill, pray & safe safe
▼ andrevandelft
I can't find the red beams. Would you please give a still picture of the video, with the red beam encircled, and also the other picture with a circle?
▼ VieBleu
Do you wake up obnoxious or do you consider it a skill set...
▼ sensitive
Let him in peace, please. He may have made an error, but he was brave doing something like this. And we now know more about JA.
▼ S3m8o
Sorry, I deleted my comment instead of editing. English is not my first language, grammar not strong.
What I meant was not @isthisgamesofthrones but how people are saying he faked it instead of standing by his side. How they turn against him instead of standing by his side.
Hope I made that clear now.
▼ sensitive
Thanks. And no problem. English isn't my first language either, so I might have misunderstood you ;-)
▼ VieBleu
only you are sad. Really.
▼ VieBleu
stay centered and remember bottom line you are dealing with a bully who is finding out that his infallibility is a myth (ha ha). Online you are dealing with a particularly paranoid if well meaning bunch of people as well as some hostile actors that will do more to try to hurt you than the coward bully will ever get around to. You have more silent support and protection than you can possibly know.
▼ SpikyAube
Exactly this. You're incredibly brave, perhaps a little insane, but definitely very brave, not sure how you get pants to fit with those cajones of yours. :-)
▼ VieBleu
OP is from Texas so they are cajones. : )
▼ SpikyAube
Thanks, fixed it!
▼ Investigate1999
It's unfortunate, that you feel that way. I'm not surprised that some people get upset, when you do something good, but you act as if everybody who disagrees with you is the enemy.
This post is well within the rules. He answers questions in the main post, but you can't see that.
▼ gopluckyourself
that's my line :(
▼ VieBleu
well don't make a tshirt with it or everyone will accuse you of cashing in ; )
▼ Investigate1999
Who said anything about banning you? Go away.
▼ IlluminatiKing
Please provide live stream of the FB page and refresh it to show that you didn't go in inspect>element and edit the chat. We need to be 100% this is true. We don't know you and if this is fake you could very well get in trouble with the law. Be careful though. You seem believable, but if we expose this, this would make us really bad if this is all faked.
▼ Investigate1999
Excellent. Thanks for the correction!
▼ S3m8o
Is this serious, you gotta be kidding.
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
Got a phone call. Sorry
▼ Investigate1999
Get out of here. If anything, this is more on topic.
▼ NonexistentNihilist
People were suggesting live streaming the facebook check while refreshing so they know it isn't edited? Personally I believe you just because you'll be sued to shit if you're lying about it.
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
I am now blocked from seeing alefantis profile so unfortunately doing it over is out of the question
▼ ThePuppetShow
It should still direct you to the page, it will just say blocked and you should be able to prove it through the url it directs to.
▼ Aaanndgo
If he's been blocked on JA's FB, he will not be able to see JA's profile at all now.
▼ LawofTruth
This is a good point. Is should still direct and display that you're now blocked. I definitely believe but it's important to get all on board and have proof for those still skeptical.
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
It goes to a bigger different format of the messenger. So I'm not sure what that means
▼ externible
Can you comment on people replicating your proof? You have been silent about that.
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
I don't know how to do what they are doing. You guys asked that I provide that proof so I did.
▼ S3m8o
I don't think you made this up. This shit is too complicated for that. I don't understand why people waste their time on proving you faked it.
We need to stay focused. We need to catch the big fish.
And OP, stay safe. Good job, you pissed him of big time.
▼ Truthseeker3000
It is 100% real and I'll tell you why. JA communicates with certain people on this (pizzagate) and has for a while off and on. He's had a hand in getting certain people kicked off Instagram and YouTube when they discuss certain things about him. I know this 100% because I've seen a few of the chat logs and he talks in riddles the exact same way as shown on the YouTube video as he does to the individual who's convos I was sent the screenshots of. He's on here as: birdzeyeview Interesting choice of screenname, as if he's above everyone else looking down. Or maybe at Pegasus on the roof top looking down at the kiddies in the playground.
▼ Devious1
Proving it's faked, it's called damage control. I beleive op, he's just hit a raw nerve which speaks volumes
Stay safe op
▼ Hazilla
These are the same idiots that think Julian Assange is a CIA hologram
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
Thank you. I wished everyone would focus on the content. This was completely unexpected by me
▼ Investigate1999
1) Why did you laugh at the end of your video?
2) Have you promoted your shirts in the memes section? If not, then why not?
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
I guess because people have given me some grief over it. This is a strange position to be in.
▼ Investigate1999
I sell stuff, too, so I know how it is. If I were you, I would be feeling it, too. However, we're on the receiving end of your promotions, so we have to do what we do.
At least you have more people supporting you than disapproving of you.
▼ Investigate1999
Have you promoted the shirts in the other forums? If not, then why not?
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
I promoted in every place I've been active on.
▼ Investigate1999
Have you been active in the meme forum?
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
No.
▼ Investigate1999
@IsThisGameOfThrones , why did you not post your shirts in the meme forum? That forum is made for your shirt promotions and memes and other things. People want to see what you have to offer.
▼ IsThisGameOfThrones
I didn't know it existed honestly.
▼ Investigate1999
Fair enough. Go check it out. You posting there consistently would earn respect from me.
▼ Investigate1999
Why not? That forum is made for your shirt promotions and memes and other things. People want to see what you have to offer.
▼ Investigate1999
You don't have to get the physical copy. I wouldn't trust your picture of a piece of paper. Tell people to go straight to the source.
Business Card
https://i.sli.mg/tfmmJz.jpg
Police Report [notice the date and name and case number]
http://p2c.websterpd.com/QuickResults.aspx?case=17000111