Does Pegasus Have a Basement? ( pizzagate )

submitted by pizza_flesh2

After looking at these images posted by others on voat of Pegasus, I am starting to believe Pegasus may actually have a large space below the building. Please refer to the photos below posted on Voat by other members.

Also, keep in mind. The park two houses down used to be a Trolley turn around. Any chance of stuff underground around here historically?

Where is this picture from in Pegasus ? https://i.sli.mg/twRY6g.jpg I don't see any other concrete ceilings in the building. This picture makes me think the first picture is a basement. (look at the white tube) https://i.sli.mg/Tg1EzT.jpg

Also, Here they are pouring cement. on the bottom level. Take note of the wire grid, usually used to reinforce. Why would you reinforce cement on the floor if there weren't a basement? Anybody here familiar with laying concrete flooring? is this normal?

https://i.sli.mg/dtHzNj.jpg

HomeboyChrisBanned

If that picture with the pipes is for sure from that Pegasus building, it 100% has a basement. Because that photo is of a basement. No logical reason why a drain pipe (or any other pipes) would be going along the ceiling like that. You can see the ceiling in the pics from Alefantis instagram. Its nothing like the pic with the pipes.

whirledpeas

Yes! See Differentiating the CPP freezer from the Pegasus #killroom freezer . Pegasus basement has the walk-in freezer plumbing in it. It also has PVC lines that probably relate to the drains the workers dug up in the y-shaped trench.

BarryOSeven

On his instagram they were joking about James Alefantis needing to underpin the floor. He was telling he never wanted to underpin anything in his life anymore.

It could be he was refering to this underground room, and he underpinned the floor?

Since their construction demo's on their website had a rolling plateau, it could be they have a rolling floor in the building. If you scroll it away you see the secret staircase to the secret room.

And what about the subway tunnels? Do they go underneath Pegasus?

yabbadoody

but it's not Centrolina. Because roof. Because different construction. Pegasus is positively identified by way of the STRUCTURE.

yabbadoody

Same CEILING... WHA?!?!?!? look over the heads of the people digging, HERE... no way, that is NOT the same 1st floor ceiling. For one thing, the construction photo ceiling doesn't match, and it's at minimum SIX FEET CLOSER to the concrete floor they're demolishing. There is very little room to go "up" here, whereas while Centrolina has a similar finished LOOK, it also has a very different ceiling height, and completely different ceiling construction. https://i.sli.mg/59J7dJ.png

Do no panic, there are trained professionals handy. Take a breath. This is Pegasus. I myself erroneously thought it was Comet until just a few days ago. It's been correctly identified, it was supposed to remain a "secret", and I believe that's why J Achilles "pretty boy" Alefantis lost his lid and threatened pizzagate gear with physical violence. Cover blown. Lashes out. He's busted, owning Pedo-land South (with Comet or Buck's, perhaps, being Pedoland North?)

Singleservename

Don't have time to view original IG, but wasn't it nightcheese aka Jeff Smith asking that?

I thought JA's reply made it clear the 'core offices' weren't at Centrolina. But I cannot conclude the tube photo is is indeed at core offices. Should be close though, as their appointment is apparently still on..

redditsuckz

This "Core" group also does contruction in the Washington DC area;

http://www.coresitegroup.com/

Its probably the CoreDc design studio like you said tho located 1010 Wisconsin Ave Washington DC

Alefantis might be friends with one or more of these people;

http://archive.is/5jFAN

yabbadoody

actually, the construction photos identified in J Achilles Alefantis's Instagram would indicate the exact opposite: That the building does NOT have a "basement", per se. Evidence:

A. The floor that's being demo'd? There is DIRT beneath. If there wasn't, they'd be knocking out the ceiling BENEATH themselves. Nobody, but nobody, places DIRT between two layers of cement - for one thing, you'd just be adding unnecessary carry load for the ceiling below, even (especially) in a PARTIAL basement config. https://i.sli.mg/4rSCDc.png

B. Property records should indicate whether there is a basement or not. In DC, however, one of the "vagaries" is that a tall open-aired single story, MIGHT be classified as a two-story, even though the second story does not exist. TheWAY TO TELL, as has been identified elsewhere in another thread, is to CHECK THE SQUARE FEET for the structure, as per it's footprint. This might indicate: A partial basement, sub floor, or partial second floor -neither of which is the same as a full basement. So it's becomes rather detail oriented.

C. In this view, one can clearly see that directly beneath the concrete floor, everywhere, there is DIRT. That means, no EXISTING basement, in this room, as shown, at least. That's about a 4" non-reinforced slab you're looking at (no metal mesh, or not much). Probably good for 1500 lbs per square foot even in pocketed areas, but as over compacted dirt? You could drive a dump truck over it. https://i.sli.mg/59J7dJ.png

As he has taunted others, construction / surveying / design experience helps. I have a few years of that.

HomeboyChrisBanned

I get the dirt thing, but how do you explain the concrete room with all the pipes along the ceiling? Where would that room be inside this building in question?

whirledpeas

See "Differentiating the CPP freezer from the Pegasus #killroom freezer" . I made an infographic which includes a photo of what I'm just about certain to be the Pegasus basement. Not only can we see a black ABS plumbed system such as what would connect from the evaporator units in the "killroom" freezer, we can also see white PVC plumbing, which probably relates to the "drains" (accordint to Alefantis) they were working on in the y-shaped trenches. Hopefully you can chime in with your construction experience and offer up any corrections needed to the infographic. It'd be much appreciated!

[Edit: I forgot to mention there is a screenshot floating around of property record which shows a basement listed. I'll try to locate it an add it into the above-linked post.]

redditsuckz

It opened in May 2015 and the instagram was taken about 100 weeks ago(?) which would mean it would still be under contruction in March 2015...then James Alefantis and his team might have worked on Centrolinas...

http://archive.is/Pexyp

Singleservename

No, iirc nightcheese asks jokingly on that IG photo whether their meeting that day is in fact at Centrolina, famous italian restaurant with industrial design. It is likely a joke, JA says no, it is at the regular place.

yabbadoody

the regular place in this case being the "Paper Sun", as was previously named, as posted elsewhere.

Singleservename

So the 'core offices' were at Paper Sun even before JA bought and rebuilt Pegasus?

redditsuckz

Looks similar but not exact...The "Core offices" might be around that area tho;

https://i.sli.mg/Rfzq0V.jpg

https://i.sli.mg/marpBg.png

Cetrolina right in the heart of the DC pentagram 974 Palmer Alley NW;

https://i.sli.mg/T8HHDU.jpg

Antonius

I was wondering if Pegasus is connected to the tunnel system. If anybody could find out, that would be a radical finding for the positive in our search.

Kwijibo

Yeah, you reinforce cement with or without a basement. But the fact that it looks like they are putting the cement on top of insulation board makes me think there is a basement. I would assume any large building in the D.C. area has a basement, it is very common in the northeast.

MyPresident

"under-slab insulation" or "below-grade insulation" -- both are most certainly a thing.

yabbadoody

if you don't put it UNDER the floor, then you don't get any R Value for the insulation - which means you're sacrificing strength (concrete) for almost zero R-value, unless you're adding a wood or wood-and-tile floor atop. Most would just place the insulation BELOW the pour, especially if the old floor was coming out, as this one is. That way, your doorway openings stay relatively the same... meaning, you can probably reuse the original, old antique doors As-Is.

Kwijibo

Yeah, that looks like you would put that under a basement floor. I am not sure if it would be used in a grade-level slab or not.

Rev_Hale_Incarnate

James Alefantis calls the place in the first image the "core offices"

http://themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gkCYNJe.png

redditsuckz

Good find.

https://i.sli.mg/marpBg.png

We really need all the comments from the photos to get a better Idea where those places are if not at PEGASUS.

Do you know where you found that instagram pic with the comments?

Centrolina might mean the Italian restaurant in Washington DC;

http://centrolinadc.com/