I believe this is the interview on youtube between Ed Opperman and Mike Parziale. It was very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLkFqA14KeI

I use mp3fy.com to download these talks to mp3 files that I can listen to on my phone or in the car.

He is very up to date on the topic before it was big news...

thanks for the tip. I'll tune in if I can.