tjarco

Deleting this after @kwsfww not responding to requests from both @Vindicator and me to edit this post and add more sources https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1552806/7562838 - Rule 2 violation

kwsfww

Fair enough. Like I have said before I am a frequent browser of this forum but this was only my second post and I never bothered to read the rules, my bad. I was just expressing an opinion which I foolishly thought was acceptable. I didn't have time to find some sources for this post but I will be sure to do so when I bring this up again. Thanks for the work you and the other mods do here it is much appreciated.

tjarco

thanks for understanding and willingness to contribute

kwsfww

But my message is directed to the people investigating and inquiring about pizzagate so I came here. I was directed to v/pizzagatewhatever which I was unaware of and I will definitely be checking it out. But all of that said I still think it is a relevant topic of discussion here. I was told to find sources to support my arguments so I will work on that when I get the chance.

kwsfww

Uh look at the conversation that I'm having with smokratez and look at his comment saying that we (the good people) will castrate all of you (the pedo's). There are definitely some people here with a lynch mob attitude. Again I will state that I never once claimed that the entire purpose of this thread was to start a lynch mob and that I was trying to stop it.

MolochHunter

There's some merit in your suggestion An Open Letter to Mr Alefantis

kwsfww

Thanks for this. I think what I will do is either edit this post or make a new one if it gets deleted that links to your open letter along with some evidence of the hate that is going on here as well as researching the effects of condemnation vs mercy and providing sources. I wish I could translate my thoughts as eloquently as you. This post was obviously not as thought out. If it was I still might not be as eloquent, but I digress.

Vindicator

Kwsfww, you know this sub is for source-linked, evidence backed research posts. Can you please add some links to support more of your points? Particularly the comments you are seeing. It's very easy to share the permalink. Otherwise, this is a baseless Meta discussion post, which belongs in v/pizzagatewhatever .

There are solid points to your argument that you haven't made you might want to include as well, such as 1) Many pedophiles learned the fixation while being abused themselves and 2) Many of those mentioned who are blackmailed by being baited with CP probably have preexisting porn addictions that are not child related.

Go to town; but back up your claims. Otherwise, this is going to be removed.

tjarco

I second this @kwsfww please back up your claims or I'll be deleting this based on rule 2 violation and will ask you to post this as a discussion in v/pizzagatewhatever

kwsfww

Thanks for the info. I didn't know about v/pizzagatewhatever I'll have to check it out. I would be glad to find some sources of the lynch mob mentality that is only exacerbating the situation in my opinion. There is already an example of it in the comments of this thread now. Some dummy calling me a pedo because of my opinion on this matter and threatening that all of "us" will be castrated one day. This is the kind of negativity that I am trying to shed light on in the first place.

Vindicator

I agree with you to some extent. However, you are more likely to be heard if you can wield facts rather than mere thoughts or opinions and back up your arguments. You also might want to try the word "Mercy" rather than sympathy. Sympathy is for people who are injured. Mercy is for those who have transgressed.

kwsfww

I'll be sure to find some examples of people perpetuating hate and violence as well as researching mercy vs condemnation to see if I can find any kind of evidence to support my opinions. Thanks again for taking the time to share this info with me.

kwsfww

How am I trolling? I am being sincere. I have been following this since December 1st and have visited the page multiple times a day every day since then. And I do think this discussion is warranted here because it is pertaining to pizzagate directly and the community on this forum. I imagine any pedophile would never want to come forward because of the way they are treated in prison. I'm simply arguing we as a society should be working to create a better environment to allow people to come forward if they so choose because I think that environment currently does not exist.

kwsfww

I used the term lynch mob figuratively when discussing the population on this forum that have been advocating that we hang these people and shove glass shards up their asses. I am not insinuating that this whole forum is trying to organize a lynch mob. I'm merely trying to keep extreme hateful emotions out of the discussion as you stated. That's really what I want. I apologize for not being able to convey my thoughts all that well.

smokratez

We should hang you people.

kwsfww

You don't see too much emotional talk on here, you are right, but I had seen enough to make me start a thread about it. There is also a huuuuge difference between a generic pedophile and the people at the top taking part in these satanic spirit cooking rituals. I'm leaning for more empathy for the former and definitely not the latter. I still think that we should be trying to keep cooler heads in this situation which some people are not.

kwsfww

I agree with what you're saying. I guess I'm more directly discussing our justice system in general and our attitude towards criminals and how we deal with them as a society. I will say though** that there still are cases of vigilante justice that could be an issue with this case. With all of the hate mongering going on I imagine if people are convicted then the parents of the victims could be more inclined to react in a more severe and negative way than if we were advocating a more peaceful environment.

Edit** spelling

smokratez

All of my nope.

kwsfww

Care to explain why because nobody can take your opinion seriously without hearing your reasoning.

smokratez

Most people here think I talk too much already, and know why I hold my opinions.

kwsfww

Then why not just vote and save your breath if you're not willing to take part in the discussion with your reasoning and logic?

smokratez

Why so mad? Couldn't find any kids to rape today?

kwsfww

I'm not mad I'm just curious why you would bother adding your opinion via a comment without willing to back it up. If this is the case why not just vote? And as far as your second question maybe people think you talk too much around here is because you say ridiculous shit like that. It's totally unnecessary and counter productive.

smokratez

I already said why. Stop trying to make pedos seem human.

kwsfww

They are human. And I asked you to explain why you don't agree with me, not why you don't want to defend your position.

smokratez

One day we will castrate all off you.